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Bradley crew's shift: 19 hours in Fallujah shooting gallery
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Posted on 11/14/2004 7:32:35 AM PST by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

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To: tlb; All
"Since arriving in March, the men had run over eight bombs. Since fighting began in Najaf in August, the Bradley had been hit by 16 RPGs"
The main idea is how ineffective and inferior our high $$$ equipment is to the "insurgents" AK's and RPGs. How many vehicles did the enemy kill/stop? They are trying to a draw a false parallel with some other recent war in Asia.
C'mon, gang! Get with the program!
21 posted on 11/14/2004 8:02:15 AM PST by trentonrevolution (I apologize for my contrarian attitude, on second thought, no, I don't.)
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To: trentonrevolution

Welcome to Free Republic. I don't understand your post.


22 posted on 11/14/2004 8:04:32 AM PST by silent_jonny (Victory is sooooo sweet!)
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To: trentonrevolution
The main idea is how ineffective and inferior our high $$$ equipment is to the "insurgents" AK's and RPGs. How many vehicles did the enemy kill/stop? They are trying to a draw a false parallel with some other recent war in Asia. C'mon, gang! Get with the program!

True, and the fact is that we have retained the initiative from the start of this operation, killed hundreds of terrorists and captured thousands more, captured huge stockpiles of arms and ammo, taken away their prime sanctuary in Iraq and are finishing them off in detail. Of course, the MSM conveniently leaves those unimportant details out of their message.

23 posted on 11/14/2004 8:08:13 AM PST by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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To: bert

The Army uses the Bradley which is tracked. The Marine Corps uses the LAV(Light Armored Vehicle) which is wheeled.


24 posted on 11/14/2004 8:19:31 AM PST by earonthief (Semper Fi (Ret.))
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To: IStillBelieve

No, an E-5 Sgt. is normally a gunner on a Brad. You start out as a driver and work your way up. When he gets his E6, he will become a track commander TC.

Q6


25 posted on 11/14/2004 8:23:59 AM PST by Q6-God
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

The "Memphis Belle" of Fallujah?


26 posted on 11/14/2004 8:27:20 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Off to the store for Marlboro Red's and Miller Beer, NSDQ)
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To: independentmind
I'm curious as to how soldiers and/or Marines get sleep and food in an urban combat setting. Do they plan to take breaks?


You eat and sleep when you can. Certainly nothing is by the clock.

27 posted on 11/14/2004 8:31:09 AM PST by CIB-173RDABN
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
kill everything that you can kill

Aye aye sir.

28 posted on 11/14/2004 8:33:40 AM PST by csvset
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
"Given those constraints, kill everything that you can kill."

Those are the kind of orders I like to hear, cut the PC crap.

29 posted on 11/14/2004 8:40:33 AM PST by chuknospam
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
"Searching for an open shot, the Bradley almost backed into a tank behind it. And then the tank fired its main gun, wrecking the opulent house across the way.
As dust and quiet settled, Ames griped, 'How come they get to shoot the mansion?' "

Some people get all the breaks.

30 posted on 11/14/2004 8:50:33 AM PST by Oatka
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To: CIB-173RDABN
You eat and sleep when you can. Certainly nothing is by the clock.

Amen. Soldiers and Marines fully understand and accept this. Combat success, in this case, is measured in siezing and holding buildings, blocks and districts. Time duration is a factor but not a major one, except for the terrorists in terms of their life expectancy. The MSM would want us to believe otherwise, putting success or failure for Fallujah in context with a fast food, instant gratification mentality. Anything to portray a quagmire.

31 posted on 11/14/2004 8:54:23 AM PST by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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To: Q6-God

Thanks for the info! :-)


32 posted on 11/14/2004 8:55:35 AM PST by IStillBelieve (G.W. Bush '04: Biggest popular-vote victory in history, and first popular-vote majority in 16 years!)
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To: bert
Those are LAVs, Marine light armored vehicles. Much smaller. The Brad is about 30 tons, roughly the mass of a WW II Sherman tank, is fully tracked, has a turret mounted 25mm auto cannon (as does the LAV), plus coaxial 30 cal machinegun, and TOW ATGM launcher. And space in the back for a dismount fire team, 4 or 6 men depending on the model, who have Javelin ATGMs, LMGs, grenade launchers, and small arms.

Bradley Fighting Vehicle

33 posted on 11/14/2004 8:59:27 AM PST by JasonC
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To: SoCal Pubbie

Almost every weapon system deployed has been criticized and called an utter failure by the MSM over time. The Tomcat, the Eagle, the Patriot Missle System... we fixed 'em. Even the M-16 was criticized for beeing too little, not rugged enough, etc. We fixed it.


34 posted on 11/14/2004 9:04:13 AM PST by SolidRedState (Free Martha)
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To: CIB-173RDABN

Good morning.

CIB-173RDABN, I was briefly a member of B Co., 1st Bat, in 1967. I went through jungle school at Bien Hoa then volunteered for a new LRP comapany.

As a cherry with the Sky Soldiers I learned that you can actually sleep on your feet while continuing to funtion. It's really amazing what young combat soldiers can do, isn't it.

Michael Frazier


35 posted on 11/14/2004 9:10:05 AM PST by brazzaville (No surrender no retreat, Well, maybe retreat's ok.)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
I don't know why we don't flatten this area.

How come we can't build armor that withstands RPG's. Isn't this a old weapon? Is it just too powerful?
36 posted on 11/14/2004 9:10:06 AM PST by Vision ("When you trust in yourself, you're trusting in the same wisdom that created you")
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To: CIB-173RDABN

Good morning.

CIB-173RDABN, I was briefly a member of B Co., 1st Bat, in 1967. I went through jungle school at Bien Hoa then volunteered for a new LRP comapany.

As a cherry with the Sky Soldiers I learned that you can actually sleep on your feet while continuing to funtion. It's really amazing what young combat soldiers can do, isn't it.

Michael Frazier


37 posted on 11/14/2004 9:11:34 AM PST by brazzaville (No surrender no retreat, Well, maybe retreat's ok.)
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To: brazzaville

Oops, double post. Sorry.


38 posted on 11/14/2004 9:12:40 AM PST by brazzaville (No surrender no retreat, Well, maybe retreat's ok.)
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To: bert

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/lav-25.htm

LAV's


39 posted on 11/14/2004 9:14:09 AM PST by SolidRedState (Free Martha)
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To: JasonC

Great site. Thanks.


40 posted on 11/14/2004 9:18:01 AM PST by raybbr
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