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Tom Hanks Picked for 'Da Vinci Code'
NewsMax ^ | 11/14/04 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 11/14/2004 11:55:11 AM PST by wagglebee

Tom Hanks has been pegged to play the lead role in Sony's upcoming film "The Da Vinci Code," the adaptation of author Dan Brown's best-selling thriller, Newsweek has learned.

Director Ron Howard and producer Brian Grazer, the duo who helped make Hanks a star with their 1984 comedy "Splash" and rehired him 11 years later for "Apollo 13," cast Hanks as the globe-trotting scholar Robert Langdon, a decision based partially on the cerebral (riddle-solving, code-cracking) nature of the action in "Da Vinci," Newsweek reports in its Nov. 22 issue (on newsstands Monday, Nov. 15).

"Tom is an exciting actor to watch thinking," Howard tells General Editor Devin Gordon. "We probably don't need his status from a box-office standpoint" – by now, "The Da Vinci Code" sells itself – "but he gives Langdon instant legitimacy."

Howard and Grazer are taking their time casting "Da Vinci," but plan to hire foreign actors to play the book's foreign characters. "If there's any book that's supposed to be an international thriller, says Grazer, "this is it."

Grazer tells Newsweek that one recent Oscar winner inquired about the role of Parisian cryptologist Sophie Neveu, "and she could easily do it. But I think the audience would be let down a bit. They expect a French girl." As for the role of bullish cop Bezu Fache, Gordon reports that Jean Reno is on Grazer's short list.

Grazer first got wind of "The Da Vinci Code" early in 2003, when Joel Surnow – creator of the acclaimed TV series "24" – thought "Da Vinci" would make a terrific story line for the show's third season. Surnow asked his boss, Grazer, to look into acquiring the rights, Newsweek reports. But as Brown had no intention of handing over his book to a mere TV show, Grazer says that "it quickly became clear that we had no chance." A few months later Sony paid $6 million for the movie rights – and hired Grazer as the producer for the biggest film adaptation since "Harry Potter."

The 53-year-old Grazer, who also paired with Howard on the Oscar-winning "A Beautiful Mind," has several upcoming projects on his slate, including an animated "Curious George" film with Will Ferrell and "Fun with Dick and Jane" starring Jim Carrey. Grazer also is producing a documentary about the notorious skinflick "Deep Throat," Gordon reports. Due out in February, it may be the first NC-17 movie released by a major studio in years.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: christianity; conspiracynuts; danbrown; davincicode; ronhoward; tomhanks
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I disagree with the politics of Tom Hanks and Ron Howard, but I've always enjoyed their movies. I wish they wouldn't make this leftist, anti-Christianity movie.
1 posted on 11/14/2004 11:55:12 AM PST by wagglebee
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To: wagglebee

Great movie for Christians to stay away from.


2 posted on 11/14/2004 11:55:42 AM PST by JesseHousman (Execute Mumia Abu-Jamal)
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To: wagglebee

Silly premise, shallow characters and worse dialogue. It isn't impossible to make a good movie out of an awful book though. Case in point is The Bridges of Madison County. The book was drivel. The movie was lots better. Of course it did have Clint Eastwood. ;)


3 posted on 11/14/2004 11:59:11 AM PST by Bahbah (Proud member of the pajamahadeen)
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To: wagglebee
I read that Tom Hanks was once active in a youth Bible group.

"Philadelphia" was his worst anti-christian movie.

He doesn't get it.

4 posted on 11/14/2004 12:00:14 PM PST by what's up
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To: wagglebee

Sadly, this story is an excellent story. It's a great read. However, I completely disagree with Brown's conclusions.


5 posted on 11/14/2004 12:00:56 PM PST by Matttheconservative
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To: wagglebee

It's just a story. It's fiction.


6 posted on 11/14/2004 12:01:13 PM PST by okstate (I'm John Kerry, and I approved this message... before I decided against it.)
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To: wagglebee

Whats the premise of the book? How is it anti-christian?


7 posted on 11/14/2004 12:02:25 PM PST by SoDak (Home of Senator John Thune)
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To: wagglebee

I hadn't heard that Howard/Grazer were doing the DaVinci Code, they should make an outstanding movie. Tom Hanks is not the person I ever associated with the lead character though.


8 posted on 11/14/2004 12:03:42 PM PST by hergus
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To: SoDak

It basically says that Mary Magdalene was the wife of Jesus Christ, and that they had children that eventually became the Merovingian line of Kings of France. It also says that the Holy Grail is actually not a cup at all but Mary Magdalene herself.

The book says that this is not accepted as fact today because of a far-reaching Church conspiracy to suppress women. Or something like that.

It's just fiction, not intended as a scholarly work.


9 posted on 11/14/2004 12:04:30 PM PST by okstate (I'm John Kerry, and I approved this message... before I decided against it.)
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To: Matttheconservative

However, it was clearly plagarized from the 1983 "non-fiction" book "Holy Blood, Holy Grail", which has since been widely discredited as a complete hoax.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0440136482/qid=1100462553/sr=2-1/ref=pd_ka_b_2_1/102-1817270-5536101


10 posted on 11/14/2004 12:04:33 PM PST by wagglebee (Memo to sKerry: the only think Bush F'ed up was your career)
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To: wagglebee
Grazer tells Newsweek that one recent Oscar winner inquired about the role of Parisian cryptologist Sophie Neveu, "and she could easily do it. But I think the audience would be let down a bit. They expect a French girl."

Plus: Tom Hanks is lobbying hard for an old co-star of his to take on the coveted role of "Sophie":


11 posted on 11/14/2004 12:06:05 PM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (I feel more and more like a revolted Charlton Heston, witnessing ape society for the very first time)
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To: wagglebee
On October 3, 2004 The Washington Times reported a lawsuit filed against the publisher, charging plagiarism. ("Suit takes crack at 'Da Vinci Code': Best seller's author 'lifted' research" by Elizabeth Day).
12 posted on 11/14/2004 12:06:08 PM PST by Dante3
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To: Matttheconservative

I disagree on it being a great story. I had tried one of Brown's earlier books (Digital Fortress, maybe?) and found the writing downright juvenile, mid-grade to YA level stuff. I decided to give him another chance and bought the DaVinci Code. Took it with me on a Hawaiian cruise as my primary read. At first I was very impressed by how much his writing had improved, how well paced it was, how engaging. Then he gradually and cleverly slipped out of storytelling and into preaching his anti-Christian dreck, which he of course implied via the novel's introduction to be well researched fact. I threw it into the ocean and watched it disappear in the frothy wake of the ship.

MM


13 posted on 11/14/2004 12:06:27 PM PST by MississippiMan (Americans should not be sacrificed on the altar of political correctness.)
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To: wagglebee

ok, call me a tard but is the da vinci code all about?


14 posted on 11/14/2004 12:06:52 PM PST by Big Guy and Rusty 99 ("I bet you've never smelled a real school bus before.")
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To: SoDak

The entire premise of the book is that everything we have been taught about Christ's life, death and resurrection has been a lie. It alleges that the Catholic Church has conspired throughout the past 2000 years to hide the truth.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0385504209/qid=1100462725/sr=2-1/ref=pd_ka_b_2_1/102-1817270-5536101


15 posted on 11/14/2004 12:08:09 PM PST by wagglebee (Memo to sKerry: the only think Bush F'ed up was your career)
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0385504209/qid=1100462725/sr=2-1/ref=pd_ka_b_2_1/102-1817270-5536101


16 posted on 11/14/2004 12:08:53 PM PST by wagglebee (Memo to sKerry: the only think Bush F'ed up was your career)
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To: wagglebee
I guess Hollywood has to pay penance for the Passion by making this heresy into a movie. Not surprising for Hanks, but I'm disappointed in Howard. Andy, slap some sense into that boy of yours.
17 posted on 11/14/2004 12:09:47 PM PST by Red Phillips (your friendly, neighborhood, ideological gadfly)
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To: wagglebee
As for the role of bullish cop Bezu Fache, Gordon reports that Jean Reno is on Grazer's short list.

Oh... wait. Wait. "... Jean Reno," he said. JEAN Reno. :)

18 posted on 11/14/2004 12:10:01 PM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (I feel more and more like a revolted Charlton Heston, witnessing ape society for the very first time)
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To: wagglebee

It makes sense that Hollywood would want to turn that premise into a movie.


19 posted on 11/14/2004 12:11:56 PM PST by SoDak (Home of Senator John Thune)
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To: Red Phillips

IMHO with the exception of "Philadelphia," Hanks has kept his personal politics out of his movies, which I think has helped his popularity.


20 posted on 11/14/2004 12:13:37 PM PST by wagglebee (Memo to sKerry: the only think Bush F'ed up was your career)
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To: okstate

Thanks


21 posted on 11/14/2004 12:14:22 PM PST by SoDak (Home of Senator John Thune)
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To: JesseHousman

Too bad, I kind of liked Tom Hanks.


22 posted on 11/14/2004 12:15:27 PM PST by thathamiltonwoman
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To: SoDak

I saw the book as more anti-Catholic than anything. I am not a Catholic, but certainly the author of this simple minded fiction is not either. He conveyed a real attitude about the Roman church from my perspective.

It involves ciphers and clues to a secret which has been held for centuries by covert groups. Leonardo Da Vinci was a member of this cult supposedly.

I felt that the book stole ideas from a number of other works. It is really was a pretty shoddy piece of work in my opinion.


23 posted on 11/14/2004 12:16:39 PM PST by Radix (The best Tag Line that I ever saw was so good because just as it was getting interesting it suddenly)
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To: Bahbah

Yeah...nothing like a movie about infidelity.


24 posted on 11/14/2004 12:18:17 PM PST by sharktrager (The masses will trade liberty for a more quiet life.)
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To: okstate
It's just a story. It's fiction.

Yeah, right.

Try telling that to an ex-girlfriend of mine who used this book to make me denounce my Christianity. Her gambit didn't work. Thus, she's an ex-girlfriend.

You may think it's harmless, but people are using it for purposes beyond mere entertainmnet.

25 posted on 11/14/2004 12:18:45 PM PST by Vision Thing
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To: wagglebee
Not only is it anti-Christian, it is a anti-Catholic book that is FICTION but portrayed as a factual, well researched book of Truth.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised that Hollywood would make a movie out of this trashy book!!

26 posted on 11/14/2004 12:19:11 PM PST by okokie (Laura Bush is a REAL WOMAN, a lady with manners and grace)
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To: Radix

Yeah, I think it's anti-Catholic, too. So is one of his other books, "Angels and Demons", IMO.


27 posted on 11/14/2004 12:19:16 PM PST by okstate (I'm John Kerry, and I approved this message... before I decided against it.)
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To: wagglebee

Hanks has made a few duds lately.

Get ready EVERY bad guy is going to be from a christian background in any hollywood movie. Look for more anti-christmas movies this year.


28 posted on 11/14/2004 12:19:21 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Sophie "Wilson" Neveu!


29 posted on 11/14/2004 12:19:34 PM PST by Vision Thing
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To: wagglebee

Recall that Hanks came out and spoke against Slickster Clinton when he disgraced the office. Then, after his Hollyweird friends pressured him, he withdrew his criticism within a couple of days. Not much of a backbone.


30 posted on 11/14/2004 12:20:39 PM PST by bushisdamanin04
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To: wagglebee; Liz; NYer; narses; Land of the Irish; Aquinasfan; thor76
How gauche.

Well, he did get his start playing a crossdresser on TV.

31 posted on 11/14/2004 12:20:47 PM PST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: okstate
It's just fiction, not intended as a scholarly work.

Unfortunately, there are claims that the book was based on historical evidence which is completely false. A lot of people are anxious to believe anything that diminishes Christianity. The book and the movie should be boycotted by Christians IMO.

32 posted on 11/14/2004 12:21:28 PM PST by Mogollon
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To: wagglebee

Oh great! A wackjob irrational blasphemy brought to the big screen. Here's hoping it flops.

I am so sick of these anti-American, leftist, out-of-touch, perverted, Hollywierd atheist freaks!


33 posted on 11/14/2004 12:21:51 PM PST by broadsword (Weren't there a couple of giant Buddhist statues in Afghanistan? What happened to them?)
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To: Radix

I have a policy on books that I read. Reading takes a lot of time, part of a finite amount of time I have in my life. Life is much too short to read a bad book. Therefore, in order to minimaze the chances of me wasting valuable time on a bad book, I read only books that are more than 50 years old. If a book can hold up under the duress of time, and still be admired, I think it lessens the risk. I made an exception, however, for Atlas Shrugged, based on the brilliant Fountainhead.


34 posted on 11/14/2004 12:23:59 PM PST by SoDak (Home of Senator John Thune)
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To: okstate

Agreed.....but the author pretends it is more than fiction and a lot of readers believe it.


35 posted on 11/14/2004 12:24:44 PM PST by Austin Willard Wright
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To: Vision Thing
It's just a story. It's fiction.
Yeah, right.

Like the Bible, the De Vinci Code is just a book. Some people will choose to believe what they want and to be influenced by whatever. Some folks are stupid. Some folks are ignorant. And some folks are both stupid and ignorant.

Real faith is stronger then any book.

36 posted on 11/14/2004 12:27:52 PM PST by Reagan Man ("America has spoken")
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To: Vision Thing

I'm sorry that that happened to you.


37 posted on 11/14/2004 12:27:54 PM PST by okstate (I'm John Kerry, and I approved this message... before I decided against it.)
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To: Austin Willard Wright

Yep. I know on one college girl who dropped her Christian faith because she read "something higher"... The Da Vinci Code. It is true, obviously, that she is a moron, but it is still evil to mislead a moron out of her faith.


38 posted on 11/14/2004 12:28:07 PM PST by broadsword (Weren't there a couple of giant Buddhist statues in Afghanistan? What happened to them?)
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To: Vision Thing; okstate
The Koran is a work written by a deranged terrorist 14 centuries ago. It is a handbook for terrorism sprinkled with a "moral code" that is the exact opposite of what is believed by every other major religion on earth (Christianity, Judaism, Buddism, Hindu). The leftist secularists will try to tell us that God has communicated differently to different cultures; however, with Islam this fallacy becomes very clear in that their teachings are so very different from ours. My faith makes me accept Judeo-Christian teachings as true; if they are true, then Islam MUST BE FALSE.

So therefore, I believe that the Koran is nothing more than an evil work of fiction. And I see the damage that this book has done to each and every one of us just in the past few years. "The Da Vinci Code" is one of the bestselling novels ever written, so yes I believe that this book can certainly be damaging to our culture.

39 posted on 11/14/2004 12:29:25 PM PST by wagglebee (Memo to sKerry: the only think Bush F'ed up was your career)
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To: Reagan Man
Real faith is stronger then THAN any book.

Real faith does not defend blasphemy, nor the misleading of the ignorant.
40 posted on 11/14/2004 12:30:10 PM PST by broadsword (Weren't there a couple of giant Buddhist statues in Afghanistan? What happened to them?)
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To: SoDak

Interesting policy.

I am not certain but 50 years ago it might be possible to have actually read every book ever written. I have heard it said that in the 18th century it was literally possible to have read everything!

Nowadays, there is a lot of trash out there. As far as I am concerned, best seller lists are no better than political polls.

I was given Da Vinci Code as a gift, and it was simple enough for me to read in just a couple of days. I never would have actually paid for such a book with my own money.


41 posted on 11/14/2004 12:33:05 PM PST by Radix (The best Tag Line that I ever saw was so good because just as it was getting interesting it suddenly)
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To: okstate
Its based on non-fiction works by Henry Lincoln and Michael Baigent, Holy Blood, Holy Grail and The Messianic Legacy. If you like drama, mystery, mysticism, secret societies, the bloodline of Jesus and all that stuff - its fascinating. Of course what begs the question is if descendants of Jesus ever did sit on the French throne, why did they lose it to begin with? Some questions will never be answered. Oh and Dan Brown's thriller is out in an illustrated coffee table book edition.
42 posted on 11/14/2004 12:33:50 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: broadsword

Blasphemy is in the eye of the beholder, preacher.


43 posted on 11/14/2004 12:36:14 PM PST by Reagan Man ("America has spoken")
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To: bushisdamanin04
"Recall that Hanks came out and spoke against Slickster Clinton when he disgraced the office. Then, after his Hollyweird friends pressured him, he withdrew his criticism within a couple of days. Not much of a backbone."

- I seem to recall that Speilburg and Hanks made a sort of joint announcement very early in the election campaign that, because of Bush's support for Israel, they would sit out the election and remain quiet - sort of like Ron Silver only without the guts.
Hanks and his wife are big, big Dems but he's smart enough to realize that if he wants a long career like Bob Hope or Gregory Peck (and he does) then he'd better keep his political activities and pronouncement within his immediate circle of friends. I can live with that.
44 posted on 11/14/2004 12:36:47 PM PST by finnigan2
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To: okstate
please tell that to the followers of the "missing gospels" who flooded the talk shows after the book was released.

Yes, it's fiction.

It's also in fiction a direct assult on the diety, sanctity and holiness of the Lord Jesus Christ.

It's a movie that won't see my money.

45 posted on 11/14/2004 12:37:06 PM PST by WoodstockCat (W2 !!! Four more Years!!)
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To: Reagan Man
And apostasy is in the heart of the fool.
46 posted on 11/14/2004 12:38:08 PM PST by broadsword (Weren't there a couple of giant Buddhist statues in Afghanistan? What happened to them?)
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To: wagglebee

It was a really lousy book, and the movie can't be much better. It had a transparent plot line based on stupid theories that a lot of uneducated people took as fact. Add to that the fact the characters were poorly developed with not one person in the book that the reader could actually grab a hold of and identify with. I found the first sixty pages to be fairly good, but after that used the book to help me sleep. I finally took the book on an airplane with me, on a red eye flight and left the book when I finished it. It wasn't worth passing on to anyone. It did make interesting conversation with people that would ask me about it, though. I found that the inquiries ran about 50/50 for or against.


47 posted on 11/14/2004 12:40:42 PM PST by Eva
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To: Radix

Dan Brown - the author - actually creeps around (and has a home) in New Hampshire - a couple of months ago he had a autograph part in Concord - our state capital and bastion of liberals - before the party he responded to a lot of the criticism of the 'invented' wisdom in the book saying it was a merely fiction and he didn't know why anyone would be upset with him. At the autographing event - he all but swore that everything in the book was the absolute truth and he had carefully researched it all.

Of course, he benefit$ enormou$ly from any and all controver$y over the book. Another $leazy immigrant we could do without in this once honorable $tate.


48 posted on 11/14/2004 12:41:00 PM PST by NHResident
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To: SoDak
How is it anti-Christian?

Dismantling The Da Vinci Code, by Sandra Miesel http://www.catholicculture.org/docs/doc_view.cfm?recnum=5342

“The Grail,” Langdon said, “is symbolic of the lost goddess. When Christianity came along, the old pagan religions did not die easily. Legends of chivalric quests for the Holy Grail were in fact stories of forbidden quests to find the lost sacred feminine. Knights who claimed to be “searching for the chalice” were speaking in code as a way to protect themselves from a Church that had subjugated women, banished the Goddess, burned non-believers, and forbidden the pagan reverence for the sacred feminine.” (The Da Vinci Code, pages 238-239)

The Holy Grail is a favorite metaphor for a desirable but difficult-to-attain goal, from the map of the human genome to Lord Stanley’s Cup. While the original Grail—the cup Jesus allegedly used at the Last Supper—normally inhabits the pages of Arthurian romance, Dan Brown’s recent mega–best-seller, The Da Vinci Code, rips it away to the realm of esoteric history.

But his book is more than just the story of a quest for the Grail—he wholly reinterprets the Grail legend. In doing so, Brown inverts the insight that a woman’s body is symbolically a container and makes a container symbolically a woman’s body. And that container has a name every Christian will recognize, for Brown claims that the Holy Grail was actually Mary Magdalene. She was the vessel that held the blood of Jesus Christ in her womb while bearing his children.

Over the centuries, the Grail-keepers have been guarding the true (and continuing) bloodline of Christ and the relics of the Magdalen, not a material vessel. Therefore Brown claims that “the quest for the Holy Grail is the quest to kneel before the bones of Mary Magdalene,” a conclusion that would surely have surprised Sir Galahad and the other Grail knights who thought they were searching for the Chalice of the Last Supper.

The Da Vinci Code opens with the grisly murder of the Louvre’s curator inside the museum. The crime enmeshes hero Robert Langdon, a tweedy professor of symbolism from Harvard, and the victim’s granddaughter, burgundy-haired cryptologist Sophie Nevue. Together with crippled millionaire historian Leigh Teabing, they flee Paris for London one step ahead of the police and a mad albino Opus Dei “monk” named Silas who will stop at nothing to prevent them from finding the “Grail.”

But despite the frenetic pacing, at no point is action allowed to interfere with a good lecture. Before the story comes full circle back to the Louvre, readers face a barrage of codes, puzzles, mysteries, and conspiracies.

With his twice-stated principle, “Everybody loves a conspiracy,” Brown is reminiscent of the famous author who crafted her product by studying the features of ten earlier best-sellers. It would be too easy to criticize him for characters thin as plastic wrap, undistinguished prose, and improbable action. But Brown isn’t so much writing badly as writing in a particular way best calculated to attract a female audience. (Women, after all, buy most of the nation’s books.) He has married a thriller plot to a romance-novel technique. Notice how each character is an extreme type…effortlessly brilliant, smarmy, sinister, or psychotic as needed, moving against luxurious but curiously flat backdrops. Avoiding gore and bedroom gymnastics, he shows only one brief kiss and a sexual ritual performed by a married couple. The risqué allusions are fleeting although the text lingers over some bloody Opus Dei mortifications. In short, Brown has fabricated a novel perfect for a ladies’ book club.

Brown’s lack of seriousness shows in the games he plays with his character names—Robert Langdon, “bright fame long don” (distinguished and virile); Sophie Nevue, “wisdom New Eve”; the irascible taurine detective Bezu Fache, “zebu anger.” The servant who leads the police to them is Legaludec, “legal duce.” The murdered curator takes his surname, Saunière, from a real Catholic priest whose occult antics sparked interest in the Grail secret. As an inside joke, Brown even writes in his real-life editor (Faukman is Kaufman).

While his extensive use of fictional formulas may be the secret to Brown’s stardom, his anti-Christian message can’t have hurt him in publishing circles: The Da Vinci Code debuted atop the New York Times best-seller list. By manipulating his audience through the conventions of romance-writing, Brown invites readers to identify with his smart, glamorous characters who’ve seen through the impostures of the clerics who hide the “truth” about Jesus and his wife. Blasphemy is delivered in a soft voice with a knowing chuckle: “[E]very faith in the world is based on fabrication.”

But even Brown has his limits. To dodge charges of outright bigotry, he includes a climactic twist in the story that absolves the Church of assassination. And although he presents Christianity as a false root and branch, he’s willing to tolerate it for its charitable works.

(Of course, Catholic Christianity will become even more tolerable once the new liberal pope elected in Brown’s previous Langdon novel, Angels & Demons, abandons outmoded teachings. “Third-century laws cannot be applied to the modern followers of Christ,” says one of the book’s progressive cardinals.)

Where Is He Getting All of This? Brown actually cites his principal sources within the text of his novel. One is a specimen of academic feminist scholarship: The Gnostic Gospels by Elaine Pagels. The others are popular esoteric histories: The Templar Revelation: Secret Guardians of the True Identity of Christ by Lynn Picknett and Clive Prince; Holy Blood, Holy Grail by Michael Baigent, Richard Leigh, and Henry Lincoln; The Goddess in the Gospels: Reclaiming the Sacred Feminine and The Woman with the Alabaster Jar: Mary Magdalen and the Holy Grail, both by Margaret Starbird. (Starbird, a self-identified Catholic, has her books published by Matthew Fox’s outfit, Bear & Co.) Another influence, at least at second remove, is The Woman’s Encyclopedia of Myths and Secrets by Barbara G. Walker.

The use of such unreliable sources belies Brown’s pretensions to intellectuality. But the act has apparently fooled at least some of his readers—the New York Daily News book reviewer trumpeted, “His research is impeccable.”

49 posted on 11/14/2004 12:43:27 PM PST by okokie (Laura Bush is a REAL WOMAN, a lady with manners and grace)
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To: finnigan2
Agreed. As to Hanks and Spielberg “sitting out” the election, I cannot understand why American Jews so strongly support the Dims. Any pro-Israel Jew should be a staunch conservative.

BTW, Hanks was great in The Ladykillers. The movie started slow and had too much gratuitous cursing, but after the first 10-15 minutes it was great.

50 posted on 11/14/2004 12:43:29 PM PST by bushisdamanin04
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