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Gutenberg Printing Method Questioned
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| 11-12-2004
| Rossella Lorenzi
Posted on 11/14/2004 4:43:31 PM PST by blam
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posted on
11/14/2004 4:43:31 PM PST
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blam
To: SunkenCiv
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posted on
11/14/2004 4:44:21 PM PST
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blam
To: blam
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posted on
11/14/2004 4:45:14 PM PST
by
Petronski
(Okay, so today I *am* cranky.)
To: blam
coming soon: reparations lawsuits.
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posted on
11/14/2004 4:47:00 PM PST
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the invisib1e hand
(if a man lives long enough, he gets to see the same thing over and over.)
To: Petronski
Lol! That is what this reminded me of.
To: the invisib1e hand
Next thing you know, they'lll be saying Columbus wasn't the first to discover America! D@mn Revisionists!
[/SARCASM]
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posted on
11/14/2004 4:50:05 PM PST
by
50sDad
( ST3d - Star Trek Tri-D Chess! http://my.oh.voyager.net/~abartmes)
To: the invisib1e hand
This article is crap. Gutenberg could easily have used an IBM Selectric Executive, with proportional, movable (golf-ball) type, and . . . . aw, hell. Nevermind.
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posted on
11/14/2004 4:51:10 PM PST
by
Petronski
(Okay, so today I *am* cranky.)
To: Anti-Bubba182
Instead, Gutenberg used keys similar to those on a typewriter, according to Fabbiani. Clearly Alien technology, stolen from the Aztechs, who invented geometry, and were black!
Seriously, is this clown saying "typesetting machine", of the type that Mark Twain went broke investing in two centuries ago, and couldn't get invented with 1800's tech, much less Medeval tech?
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posted on
11/14/2004 4:53:38 PM PST
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50sDad
( ST3d - Star Trek Tri-D Chess! http://my.oh.voyager.net/~abartmes)
To: blam
It's been long established that the very same 13th Century Korean noblemen invented moveable type, printed money and practical gunpowder (with rockets) but this beats all ~ Gutenberg actually invented KERNING!
This process was all but abandoned for the next 500 years until the development of photocomposition equipment.
Today kerning is commonly available with all word processing software.
Kerning was in the news recently when it was demonstrated that certain documents in the possession of Dan Rather of CBS news had been forged ~ after all, typewriters, an application of the moveable type concept, did not allow for kerning in the early 1970s.
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posted on
11/14/2004 4:57:42 PM PST
by
muawiyah
To: blam
I've done plenty of research on Gutenberg myself (we own one of the original Gutenberg Bibles here at the University of Texas!)
What this "researcher" fails to mention is that Gutenberg would have whole words for the more common words, so he could easily place them without having to pick out every letter. He would have the Italian equivalents of our "the" and "and" and other such common words, so as to save on time. That could explain the overlaying letters. As the pictures show, you can only see two letters, so we have no idea what words they belong to.
Smells like a "researcher" just trying to grab some attention from "controversy."
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posted on
11/14/2004 4:59:06 PM PST
by
Zeppelin
(Going to war without the French is like going hunting without an accordian.)
To: Petronski; 50sDad; All
everyone knows that Algore invented the Gutenberg Press.
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posted on
11/14/2004 4:59:29 PM PST
by
the invisib1e hand
(if a man lives long enough, he gets to see the same thing over and over.)
To: blam
Being a printer who learned typesetting using "foundry" type, where each letter is an individual piece of lead alloy, I can tell you it is very possible to duplicate the appearance of overlapping letters. (You can even do it using MicroSoft Word and a laser printer, Dan.) The problem is the height of the letters. If the character on the left is taller than the character next to it, it will not allow the character on the right to accept ink or make the necessary impression on the paper. I put a piece of paper next to the straight line on the right character, and it does not seem to overlap. It is an optical illusion.
Let's rewrite history once again.
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posted on
11/14/2004 5:00:41 PM PST
by
HalfAMind
(United we stand, democratic we fall.)
To: blam
I'll reserve judgment till I hear from Buckhead.
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posted on
11/14/2004 5:00:59 PM PST
by
ProudVet77
(Just say NO to blue states.)
To: blam
Using them, a character after another, a line after another, Gutenberg impressed a metal plate until he created a page and printed it. Then he had to have created his type in reverse or used a blanket.
To: primeval patriot
To: blam
I just discovered the Wyclif Bible, written circa 1395. It's written in Middle English, which I absolutely love. I'm already up to Chapter 16. Enjoy!
Wyclif Bible, 1395
To: blam
O.K. so he skipped moveable type and invented the offset printing plate.
To: HalfAMind
Were you a linotype operator?
To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp
I just discovered the Wyclif Bible, written circa 1395. It's written in Middle English Strange. Why is this hosted on a Russian website?
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posted on
11/14/2004 5:17:28 PM PST
by
Paleo Conservative
(Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Arlen Specter's got to go!)
To: primeval patriot
You are probably correct. One of the more interesting devices I've seen are pages of Buddha's favorite sermons which are produced by inking over a stone into which the words are carved, then pressing a piece of paper to them.
If I recall the program about that, this process was created in the 1100's or therebouts as a means of eliminating dispute over what Buddha actually said.
Printed money was done pretty much the same way but with moveable type used to provide "chops" for the current authorizing official.
What they DID NOT INVENT way back when was the Xerographically produced photo-litho offset sheet which was then used to produce a couple of reems of cutsheet information of great interest to people all over the place.
At least I don't think early printers did that, but who knows. First kerning, now offset plates? Dollars to doughnuts a guy named Schmidlapp invented the multi-stage rocket in the 1600s!
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posted on
11/14/2004 5:20:42 PM PST
by
muawiyah
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