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Who Were the Greatest Military Commanders (Of All Time) ?

Posted on 11/14/2004 5:23:06 PM PST by Cyropaedia

In light of the upcoming film Alexander (the Great), who in your opinion were actually the greatest military commanders our world has known...?

Mine are Genghis Khan, Alexander, and U.S. Grant.


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KEYWORDS: milhist; militarycommanders; militaryhistory
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1 posted on 11/14/2004 5:23:08 PM PST by Cyropaedia
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To: Cyropaedia
Grant? Oh boy, are the Southrens gonna have a time with you!
2 posted on 11/14/2004 5:24:26 PM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: Cyropaedia

GOD


3 posted on 11/14/2004 5:24:44 PM PST by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (The Jews Stole My Oxygen... (even though my compound was well airated) heh)
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To: Cyropaedia

Why not break it down to tactical, operational and strategic?


4 posted on 11/14/2004 5:24:53 PM PST by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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To: Cyropaedia

You would have to add: Napolean, Caesar and R.E. Lee.

Blennos


5 posted on 11/14/2004 5:25:13 PM PST by Blennos (hoste, opto ut seis felicior.)
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To: Cyropaedia

Hannibal, Lee, and Patton


6 posted on 11/14/2004 5:25:20 PM PST by matymac (The NEA = Neo Elitist A*sholes)
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To: Cyropaedia
General Tommy Franks defeated 2 of our declared enemies in the course of 18 months with a death rate, during those 18 months, of less than 1 hundreth of 1%.

A record to be applauded.

7 posted on 11/14/2004 5:25:28 PM PST by ChadGore (60,724,666 Bush fans can't be wrong.)
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To: Cyropaedia

Stonewall Jackson on the Division and Corp level. Attaturk and Hannibal on the Army level. Napoleon too.


8 posted on 11/14/2004 5:25:45 PM PST by Ahban
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To: Cyropaedia

PATTON!!!


9 posted on 11/14/2004 5:25:53 PM PST by LibFreeUSA
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To: Cyropaedia

What about Napoleon?


10 posted on 11/14/2004 5:26:17 PM PST by maro
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To: matymac

Sun Tzu


11 posted on 11/14/2004 5:26:39 PM PST by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (The Jews Stole My Oxygen... (even though my compound was well airated) heh)
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To: Cyropaedia

Napolean, Lee, and Patton.


12 posted on 11/14/2004 5:26:57 PM PST by Rumierules
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

John F. Kerry


13 posted on 11/14/2004 5:27:01 PM PST by ReadyNow (When you see the eye, expect a lie!)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

Qin Shi Huang Di


14 posted on 11/14/2004 5:27:15 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: Cyropaedia

Kublai Kahn.


15 posted on 11/14/2004 5:27:17 PM PST by Faraday
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To: maro

I think Judas Maccabeus fought about as much as any fighting general, probably more.


16 posted on 11/14/2004 5:27:17 PM PST by MoralSense
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To: Cyropaedia

Golderan of Syriis II


17 posted on 11/14/2004 5:27:27 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Democrat credo: If we win, we win: if we lose it is theft!)
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To: Cyropaedia

what about Al Quaidas ally in Bosnia; General wesley Clark??


18 posted on 11/14/2004 5:27:37 PM PST by Luigi Vasellini
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To: Cyropaedia

Belisarius, Scipio Africanus


19 posted on 11/14/2004 5:27:50 PM PST by 0siris
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To: Cyropaedia

I'm a south'rener, and I'll agree with US Grant.

Add a few more - Patton, Montgomery, Napoleon, Hannibal, McArthur, Schwartzkopf, Nimitz, Rommel, Zhukov


20 posted on 11/14/2004 5:27:55 PM PST by clee1 (Islam is a deadly plague; liberalism is the AIDS virus that prevents us from defending ourselves.)
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To: Cyropaedia

David. He defeated an army with a slingshot.


21 posted on 11/14/2004 5:27:58 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: Unam Sanctam

post me stuff to read please


22 posted on 11/14/2004 5:28:04 PM PST by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (The Jews Stole My Oxygen... (even though my compound was well airated) heh)
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To: ReadyNow

LOL


23 posted on 11/14/2004 5:28:17 PM PST by Rumierules
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To: Cyropaedia

George Washington has to rank up there. He definately had the most lasting positive impact on history of all of the major commanders. Compare Washington to his French counterpart, Napoleon. Washington took a poor frontier nation and set it on track to become the greatest nation in the world. Napoleon took the world's most powerful nation (then France), and set it on track to be the third-rate power it is today.


24 posted on 11/14/2004 5:28:22 PM PST by No Truce With Kings (The opinions expressed are mine! Mine! MINE! All Mine!)
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I have a list of victorious arab generals of my lifetime.
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25 posted on 11/14/2004 5:28:30 PM PST by ChadGore (60,724,666 Bush fans can't be wrong.)
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To: ReadyNow

Kerry was in the military?


26 posted on 11/14/2004 5:28:31 PM PST by Gumption
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To: ReadyNow

John F. Kerry = Best tactical retreat strategist


27 posted on 11/14/2004 5:28:54 PM PST by igoramus987
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To: Cyropaedia

George Washington has to rank up there. He definately had the most lasting positive impact on history of all of the major commanders. Compare Washington to his French counterpart, Napoleon. Washington took a poor frontier nation and set it on track to become the greatest nation in the world. Napoleon took the world's most powerful nation (then France), and set it on track to be the third-rate power it is today.


28 posted on 11/14/2004 5:29:15 PM PST by No Truce With Kings (The opinions expressed are mine! Mine! MINE! All Mine!)
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To: Gumption

Didn't you know? He was in Vietnam...and Cambodia, too.


29 posted on 11/14/2004 5:29:29 PM PST by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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To: Blennos
Julius Caesar, Napoleon, Hitler, Lee-Quan... Sorry, just had to sneak in an obscure Star Trek reference there.
30 posted on 11/14/2004 5:29:31 PM PST by Uncle Vlad
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To: Cyropaedia

Grant
Wellington
Rommel


31 posted on 11/14/2004 5:30:14 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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John Paul Jones, Stephen Decatur, David Farragut, Robley Evans, William Halsey, Chester Nimitz.


32 posted on 11/14/2004 5:30:18 PM PST by aomagrat (Where weapons are not allowed, it is best to carry weapons.)
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To: TADSLOS

He should have said something about it.


33 posted on 11/14/2004 5:30:26 PM PST by Gumption
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To: Luigi Vasellini

wesley Clark = Best Bomb at a Distance Strategist


34 posted on 11/14/2004 5:30:42 PM PST by igoramus987
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To: Cyropaedia

Hannibal, Chengis Khan & several of his staff most notably Subudai, Tamerlane, Gustavus Adolphus, John Churchill, Ulysses Grant, Douglas MacArthur, Chester Nimitz, Marshall Zhukov...


35 posted on 11/14/2004 5:30:53 PM PST by swolf
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To: Uncle Vlad
Lee-Quan?
Khaaaan
36 posted on 11/14/2004 5:30:53 PM PST by ChadGore (60,724,666 Bush fans can't be wrong.)
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To: Cyropaedia

Lord Horatio Nelson


37 posted on 11/14/2004 5:31:04 PM PST by Land_of_Lincoln_John
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Anyone who fought the French. Except the French.
38 posted on 11/14/2004 5:31:13 PM PST by atomicpossum (I am the Cat that walks by himself, and all places are alike to me.)
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Douglas MacArthur is right up there...


39 posted on 11/14/2004 5:31:25 PM PST by Guillermo (Michael Moore is fat)
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Julius Ceaser, Erwin Rommel and George Patton.


40 posted on 11/14/2004 5:31:29 PM PST by narses (Free Republic is pro-God, pro-life, pro-family + Vivo Christo Rey!)
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Grant? Are you nuts? The only reason he beat Lee was that he had far more men who were much better equipped. If Lee and Grant had swapped sides, the South would not have lasted two years.


41 posted on 11/14/2004 5:31:33 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (God is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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I would have to say Patton, and MacArthur.

Both were outstanding generals with an insight for their "craft" that made them stand out from others.


42 posted on 11/14/2004 5:31:37 PM PST by Noachian (A Democrat, by definition, is a Socialist.)
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To: Uncle Vlad
You forgot Krotus.
43 posted on 11/14/2004 5:31:48 PM PST by atomicpossum (I am the Cat that walks by himself, and all places are alike to me.)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

The unifier of China:

http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Qin-Shi-Huang-Di


44 posted on 11/14/2004 5:31:58 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: No Truce With Kings

Alexander in a class by himself. George Washington, Stonewall Jackson, Marshal Zhukov, Suvorov, Sherman, TE Lawrence, Belisarius, Charles "The Hammer" Martel, NB Forrest, Cortez, Pizarro, Tokugawa, Genghis Khan, Nathaniel Greene, Clive of India, Patton, Rommel.


45 posted on 11/14/2004 5:32:07 PM PST by laconic
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Lee-Quan?

One of the most ruthless leader's in your Earth's history, Captain.

46 posted on 11/14/2004 5:32:11 PM PST by Land_of_Lincoln_John
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To: swolf
Chester Nimitz is the most underrated

Rommel was the most overrated.

47 posted on 11/14/2004 5:32:28 PM PST by Gumption
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Here's quite a list:
http://www.pattonhq.com/militaryworks/leaderslist.html


48 posted on 11/14/2004 5:32:32 PM PST by SiVisPacemParaBellum (Peace through superior firepower!)
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I'm a Union man. But I believe Stonewall Jackson was one
of the greatest generals that ever lived.


49 posted on 11/14/2004 5:32:35 PM PST by Renatus (C)
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Good questions! There were many fine commanders in the history!

Julius Caesar
Ghengis Khan
Atilla the Hun
Dwight D. Eisenhower (Normandy Invasion)
George Washington (Valley Forge, etc.)
Rommel (Brilliant Tactician)
Zhukov (Brute Force in relatively undisciplined army)
"Bull" Halsey (Brillian Tactician)

Notice I did not question their idealogy but their skills in commanding a large army and the example of leadership.

50 posted on 11/14/2004 5:32:36 PM PST by Sen Jack S. Fogbound (Let there be a honest Congress!)
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