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Lost Atlantis 'found near Cyprus'
The Daily Telegraph (UK) ^ | November 15, 2004 | By Tabitha Morgan in Limassol

Posted on 11/14/2004 6:57:47 PM PST by aculeus

A team of American ocean researchers said yesterday that they were convinced they had found evidence of the lost kingdom of Atlantis off the coast of Cyprus.

The team used the latest sonar technology to create images of the sea bed a mile below the surface of the Mediterranean.

The expedition, led by Robert Sarmast, spent six days at sea surveying the area. "I am absolutely convinced I have found Atlantis," Mr Sarmast said, speaking on the deck of his research ship on his return to Limassol.

"The sonar images showed what appeared to be two straight walls each about a mile long at either end of a flat-topped hill where the city's temples would have been situated."

In addition to these apparently man-made structures the images also showed evidence of two streams that Mr Sarmast said had flowed from springs on the summit. These fed into a trench or canal bed, which seemed to run concentrically around the hill.

According to Mr Sarmast the latest evidence matches exactly the detailed description of Atlantis given by Plato.

"There are about 60 specific points that match Plato's account," he said. "How can you explain away a bunch of coincidences like this?"

Mr Sarmast, 38, from Los Angeles, admits he has no formal academic qualifications to substantiate his claims, which he acknowledges to be controversial. But having spent 10 years studying accounts of the lost city he is in no doubt about the importance of his find.

He says his next step will be to make a three-dimensional computer image from the sonar data before returning to the site for further research.

But Mr Sarmast is not alone in claiming to have found the site of the ancient city. Last June a German researcher produced evidence to support his assertion that Atlantis was once a coastal area of Spain, not far from Cadiz. Other recent theories have located the city near Cuba and off the coast of Devon.

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1 posted on 11/14/2004 6:57:48 PM PST by aculeus
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To: SunkenCiv

GGG Ping


2 posted on 11/14/2004 6:58:54 PM PST by wagglebee (Memo to sKerry: the only think Bush F'ed up was your career)
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To: aculeus

A couple of months ago it was Ireland. They need to find actual evidence of a civilization there.


3 posted on 11/14/2004 6:59:55 PM PST by wagglebee (Memo to sKerry: the only think Bush F'ed up was your career)
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To: wagglebee

Last year it was off the coast of Cuba. I wonder where it'll be next year?


4 posted on 11/14/2004 7:00:56 PM PST by newzjunkey (San Diego, Kleptocrasy by the Sea. -- VOID the Illegal Mayoral "Election")
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To: aculeus

3 to 1 that it's really Kerry's Campaign Plan down there...


5 posted on 11/14/2004 7:02:13 PM PST by murdocj (Murdoc Online - Everyone is entitled to my opinion (http://www.murdoconline.net))
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To: newzjunkey

When they find the Yette, they'll see that the lost city is the Yette's mountain hideaway.


6 posted on 11/14/2004 7:04:44 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian (Drivers of SUVs without brush scratches should be horsewhipped! ><BCC>)
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To: newzjunkey

I think it was a chain, like Pizza Hut.


7 posted on 11/14/2004 7:06:04 PM PST by Richard Kimball (Four more years)
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To: aculeus

---gee whiz---Clive Cussler was wrong---


8 posted on 11/14/2004 7:06:11 PM PST by rellimpank
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To: aculeus

Maybe Atlantis outsourced itself and that's why it keeps popping up all over the place.

Seriously, we all know it's really in another galaxy, but we'd have to get through the Wraiths first.


9 posted on 11/14/2004 7:09:30 PM PST by WestVirginiaRebel (George W. Bush IS the right man, in the right place, at the right time.)
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To: aculeus

So, let's see if we can total this up...Is this person number 10,000 or person number 10,000,000 who has claimed to have found Atlantis? :o)


10 posted on 11/14/2004 7:10:06 PM PST by Rhetorical pi2
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To: aculeus
Mr Sarmast, 38, from Los Angeles, admits he has no formal academic qualifications to substantiate his claims, which he acknowledges to be controversial. But having spent 10 years studying accounts of the lost city he is in no doubt about the importance of his find.

I always love when the 'journalist' throws something like this in an article. Imagine if we inserted the names of other people who did not have a formal academic background into an article like this. 'Mr. Edison, 32, from Menlo Park, New Jersey ....'
11 posted on 11/14/2004 7:11:15 PM PST by dmartin (Who Dares Wins)
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To: aculeus

They might have found a lost island somewhere... but where do they have evidence it is Atlantis?


12 posted on 11/14/2004 7:11:32 PM PST by GeronL (http://images7.fotki.com/v125/photos/2/215708/780411/reow-vi.jpg?1100155138)
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To: newzjunkey; wagglebee

We need to drain Lake Michigan to find it


13 posted on 11/14/2004 7:12:13 PM PST by GeronL (http://images7.fotki.com/v125/photos/2/215708/780411/reow-vi.jpg?1100155138)
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To: newzjunkey; aculeus

What I want to know is where these guys are getting all of the money to hunt for something that may never have existed! What if Plato just made it all up?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/search?s=atlantis&ok=Search&q=deep&m=all&o=time&SX=4198227995abaf8f4b7dabcb7ecff87aae3c82de


14 posted on 11/14/2004 7:13:06 PM PST by wagglebee (Memo to sKerry: the only think Bush F'ed up was your career)
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To: aculeus
Lost Atlantis 'found near Cyprus'

yeah, great, but well where in the he11 is the remote?

15 posted on 11/14/2004 7:13:15 PM PST by steveo (Member: Fathers Against Rude Television)
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To: GeronL
We need to drain Lake Michigan to find it

Are we talking about Atlantis or Jimmy Hoffa's body or perhaps Al Capone's hidden safes?

16 posted on 11/14/2004 7:15:00 PM PST by wagglebee (Memo to sKerry: the only think Bush F'ed up was your career)
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To: blam

Ping


17 posted on 11/14/2004 7:15:34 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: murdocj

Either that, or it's the Rose Law Firm billing records along with the answer to "who hired Craig Livingstone"...


18 posted on 11/14/2004 7:19:48 PM PST by The Electrician
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To: aculeus

Great news! Can all those depressed liberals immigrate?


19 posted on 11/14/2004 7:20:13 PM PST by JudyinCanada
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To: wagglebee

No, the alien ship that brought human-kind to this planey 7,000 years ago


20 posted on 11/14/2004 7:20:25 PM PST by GeronL (http://images7.fotki.com/v125/photos/2/215708/780411/reow-vi.jpg?1100155138)
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To: aculeus
Lost Atlantis 'found near Cyprus' ^.....

.....NOT another one!

/re-incarnation

21 posted on 11/14/2004 7:22:43 PM PST by maestro
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To: aculeus; WestVirginiaRebel

22 posted on 11/14/2004 7:26:36 PM PST by 4mycountry
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To: maestro

It could be that all the deeply submerged ruins are satellites of the main, perhaps near Cyprus ... the story goes that the civ of Atlantis carried on world-wide trade and made maps (some of which have been revealed) of the entire globe.


23 posted on 11/14/2004 7:35:27 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: murdocj
3 to 1 that it's really Kerry's Campaign Plan down there...

You guys weely quack me up! Thanks!

24 posted on 11/14/2004 7:40:14 PM PST by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: wagglebee

Thanks WaggleBee, I'll ping GGG a little later, probably from his one:

Atlantis Hunt Reveals Structures In Sea Off Cyprus
Reuters ^ | 11-13-2004
Posted on 11/13/2004 3:54:27 PM PST by blam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1279338/posts


25 posted on 11/14/2004 7:41:32 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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To: MHGinTN
Atlantian hover craft stolen in Mexico by muslim terrorists!


26 posted on 11/14/2004 7:42:04 PM PST by vger (asta la vista earthlinks!)
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To: newzjunkey

We all know it is in the Pegasus galaxy


27 posted on 11/14/2004 7:42:17 PM PST by eccentric (aka baldwidow)
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To: newzjunkey

Well, it's sort of a submerged island. It keeps floating around from continent to continenet - sea to shining sea.


28 posted on 11/14/2004 7:42:56 PM PST by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: dmartin
"Mr Sarmast, 38, from Los Angeles, admits he has no formal academic qualifications to substantiate his claims, which he acknowledges to be controversial. But having spent 10 years studying accounts of the lost city he is in no doubt about the importance of his find."


I'm not a physicist and I have no training in science, but I just spent all weekend working on a perpetual motion machine that will allow humanity to have all the free energy it needs forever. Can I have my patent now? When will all the royalty checks start arriving?
29 posted on 11/14/2004 7:44:17 PM PST by spinestein (Do not remove this tagline under penalty of law.)
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To: aculeus

Atlantis, it seems, has became a title given to any submerged evidence of civilization that may have existed in the window of 5-10 thousand years ago. I think what will be confirmed is that mankind worldwide had fairly robust civilizations in many parts of the world at the end of the last ice age. I think that there is a high likelyhood that Atlantis in some form or another did exist but as of yet it has not been found in any definitive sense and it will probably be some time before it is.


30 posted on 11/14/2004 7:45:31 PM PST by Ma3lst0rm
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To: MHGinTN
Yep,.....I'm sure Adam and Eve, et al., understood the planet quite well.

Noah even traveled it in the world-wide flood!

Hmmmmmmmm....

31 posted on 11/14/2004 7:46:47 PM PST by maestro
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To: wagglebee

Why would he do that?


32 posted on 11/14/2004 7:49:32 PM PST by rwfromkansas ("War is an ugly thing, but...the...feeling which thinks nothing worth a war, is worse." --J.S. Mill)
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To: maestro
Do you think Adam and Eve were contemporary with the last Ice Age, or a few tens-of-thousands of years prior? Ever wonder about the existence of Neandertals and the possibility that one of those was whom Cane went off into the land of Nod to mate with? Have you no imagination????

You'll excuse me, I'm a writer of fictional things loosely based in facts.

33 posted on 11/14/2004 7:51:56 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: aculeus

And I had a rather spirited discussion of politics with the Tooth Fairy last night. By the way, TF wants everyone to know that she is not a gay man. Former NJ Governor McGreevey however is.


34 posted on 11/14/2004 7:56:51 PM PST by WideGlide (That light at the end of the tunnel might be a muzzle flash.)
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To: aculeus

I knew, I left it somewhere around there.


35 posted on 11/14/2004 8:00:43 PM PST by razorback-bert
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To: spinestein
Let's see your machine.

"...no formal academic qualifications" is the best thing this guy had said yet.

36 posted on 11/14/2004 8:00:46 PM PST by onedoug
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To: aculeus
If we were able to combine all the claimants to Atlantis, we could re-create Pangaea.
37 posted on 11/14/2004 8:06:57 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: aculeus

I hear about Atlantis everywhere. I heard of it even in Antartica of all places.


38 posted on 11/14/2004 8:10:32 PM PST by Ptarmigan (Proud rabbit hater and killer)
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To: aculeus

Nonsense. Plato said it was a considerable continent broken by 3 major rivers. The Atlantic is named after Atlantis. The Atla in Meso-America is named after Atlantis.

The searches haven't found Atlantis because it is too far south now for them to look for it, and its name has been changed.

It is called Antartica!

We have to wait for the ice to melt or the earth's surface to shift or the angle to change to discover the truth.

There are at least two proofs Darwin was wrong.
1. Antarica is the home of mankind and civilization.
2. Darwin never met my cousins.


39 posted on 11/14/2004 8:38:45 PM PST by Prost1
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To: Richard Kimball
I think it was a chain, like Pizza Hut.

That's the most plausible explanation I've ever heard! Atlantis was a stinkin' franchise! No longer did men need to travel to the far corners of the earth to turn their slaves into animals, or to take that crystal-powered Zaren(R) brand death ray in for some factory scheduled maintenance! Yessir, there's an Atlantis(tm) coming to an antediluvian city near you!


40 posted on 11/14/2004 8:55:10 PM PST by Alex Murphy (Psalm 73)
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To: aculeus

Somebody call WHOI, get Ballard on the horn...


41 posted on 11/14/2004 9:38:56 PM PST by benjaminjjones
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To: GeronL
Fox News has more info:

sonar scanning 50 miles southeast of Cyprus revealed man-made walls, one as long as 2 miles, and trenches at a depth of 1,640 yards.

"It is a miracle we found these walls as their location and lengths match exactly the description of the acropolis of Atlantis provided by Plato in his writings," Sarmast said, referring to the ancient Greek philosopher."

"We found more than 60-70 points that are a perfect match with Plato's detailed description of the general layout of the acropolis hill of Atlantis (search). The match of the dimensions and the coordinates provided by our sonar with Plato's description are so accurate that, if this is not indeed the acropolis of Atlantis, then this is the world's greatest coincidence," he said.

Tests of that part of the seabed showed it had once been above sea level, he said.

"We cannot yet provide tangible proof in the form of bricks and mortar as the artifacts are still buried under several meters of sediment at a depth of 1,500 meters (1,640 yards), but the evidence is now irrefutable," he added.

Asked if the ruins could not be that of another city that sank beneath the waves, Sarmast said the remains match Plato's description of Atlantis so closely that they could not be anything else.

"If you compare it with Plato, you will be astonished," he said. "We hope that future expeditions will be able to uncover the sediment and bring back physical proof."

42 posted on 11/15/2004 12:58:06 PM PST by looscnnn ("Live free or die; death is not the worst of evils" Gen. John Stark 1809)
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To: aculeus

...and the Moon will be in the 7th House and Jupiter will align with Mars and peace will (?do something) to the planet...it is the 'Darning of the Agent of Saudi'ee-es'... (yuck, yuck)


43 posted on 11/15/2004 1:01:51 PM PST by NoClones
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To: looscnnn

Thats interesting. Go down, inflate a giant dome with air and let the excavators go to work. =o)


44 posted on 11/15/2004 7:57:07 PM PST by GeronL (http://images7.fotki.com/v125/photos/2/215708/780411/reow-vi.jpg?1100155138)
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To: aculeus
thanks, aculeus.
Please FREEPMAIL me if you want on, off, or alter the "Gods, Graves, Glyphs" PING list --
Archaeology/Anthropology/Ancient Cultures/Artifacts/Antiquities, etc.
The GGG Digest
-- Gods, Graves, Glyphs (alpha order)

45 posted on 11/16/2004 11:13:36 AM PST by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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To: JudyinCanada
HA! Never happen: they are so bad off they didn't even go to Canada the second time Bush won.
47 posted on 08/19/2005 4:05:02 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (God save us from the fury of the do-gooders!)
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To: Ma3lst0rm
OKAY, I'm an archaeological heretic, but my bet is that mankind had robust civilizations before the last Ice Age.

If the temperate zones were where they are today--or even farther from the equator, the evidence has been largely buried or wiped out.

What we find today is mainly the remnants of equatorial civilizations, when those climates were more temperate and the remanants of the ice sheets were retreating, those remnants now are largely in desert or tropical climate regions because the climate changed when the ice sheets receeded.

Just my crackpot ideas...

48 posted on 08/19/2005 4:10:56 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (God save us from the fury of the do-gooders!)
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To: Smokin' Joe
OKAY, I'm an archaeological heretic, but my bet is that mankind had robust civilizations before the last Ice Age.

If the temperate zones were where they are today--or even farther from the equator, the evidence has been largely buried or wiped out.

My God man, do you realize what you're saying? You're saying that the Earth, in its 4.5 billion year existence to date, might have warmed and cooled several times?

When we all now know, that its man rise that has caused the earth to warm. Unless of course you're right, then the enviro's will be able to point to Atlantis as being proof that man warmed up his climate before.... oh wait, we've had an ice age since then...

never mind...

We now return you to your regularly scheduled freep.

49 posted on 08/19/2005 11:42:07 AM PDT by AFreeBird (your mileage may vary)
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To: Smokin' Joe

I think you are probably right but that would not fit with the conventional wisdom concerning human civilization. Sometimes today what scientists make up for in "intellect" they lack in imagination but eventually things will be dug up. I wouldn't be surprised to find that considerable "proof" of pre-ice age civilizations is not already in the coffers of many museums not that they have covered the proof up but that no one is really looking.


50 posted on 08/20/2005 9:35:13 AM PDT by Ma3lst0rm (Ego is the step child of confidence. Its constantly trying to prove its self worth.)
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