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Trial reveals spammer techniques
CNN.Com - Technology ^ | Sunday, November 14, 2004 Posted: 2:13 PM EST (1913 GMT) | Associated Press

Posted on 11/14/2004 10:14:31 PM PST by F15Eagle

LEESBURG, Virginia (AP) -- As one of the world's most prolific spammers, Jeremy Jaynes pumped out at least 10 million e-mails a day with the help of 16 high-speed lines, the kind of Internet capacity a 1,000-employee company would need.

Jaynes' business was remarkably lucrative; prosecutors say he grossed up to $750,000 per month. If you have an e-mail account, chances are Jaynes tried to get your attention, pitching software, pornography and work-at-home schemes.

The eight-day trial that ended in his conviction this month shed light on the operations of a 30-year-old former purveyor of physical junk mail who worked with minimal assistance out of a nondescript house in Raleigh, North Carolina.

A state jury in Leesburg has recommended a nine-year prison term in the nation's first felony trial of spam purveyors. Sentencing is set for February.

During the trial, prosecutors focused on three products that Jaynes hawked: software that promises to clean computers of private information; a service for choosing penny stocks to invest in; and a "FedEx refund processor" that promised $75-an-hour work but did little more than give buyers access to a Web site of delinquent FedEx accounts.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: microsoft; spam; windows


Convicted spammer Jeremy Jaynes grossed up to $750,000 a month by sending out junk e-mail.

Now if they wanted to use a Taser on THIS guy, well, I think I could justify it. repeatedly.
1 posted on 11/14/2004 10:14:33 PM PST by F15Eagle
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To: Cindy; yonif; Alouette; Yehuda; dennisw; Lent; Travis McGee; Jeff Head; rdb3; mhking; MeekOneGOP; ..

SPAM SPAM SPAM, SPAM SPAM!!!

(and yes, ping is a form of SPAM! LOL)

Now, would any of you be interested in real estate for $50, Viagara, Cialis, Vioxx, DEA Porsches and yachts or $100, make $100 hour in your spare time?, HOT stock tips, transfer $7 million from Nigeria, get paid to surf the internet, 1 cent stocks that will be worth $1000/share, get your real estate license or Software at HUGE discounts!!!???!!!???


2 posted on 11/14/2004 10:18:06 PM PST by F15Eagle (John 3:17-18)
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To: F15Eagle
Which Nigerian spammer are you?
3 posted on 11/14/2004 10:24:51 PM PST by PianoMan (Top priority for the new government - STOP SPECTER)
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To: F15Eagle
I'm normally a very nonviolent person, but just give me 10 minutes with this guy....

God, I HATE spam emails.

L

4 posted on 11/14/2004 10:27:34 PM PST by Lurker (As a matter of fact I do serve Satan. But my duties are largely ceremonial.)
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To: PianoMan
You are GODFREY UGO. You are the Chairman of the Contract Debt Investigation and Payment Commission for the government of Nigeria.  You have $200 Million that you wish to give away 25%. Your business is 100% risk free.

Which Nigerian spammer are You?

5 posted on 11/14/2004 10:30:19 PM PST by F15Eagle (John 3:17-18)
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To: Lurker

I think there are a lot of people that would like to "talk" with this guy.


6 posted on 11/14/2004 10:31:53 PM PST by F15Eagle (John 3:17-18)
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To: F15Eagle

Curse this worthless damned piece of $hit to the most horrid depths of hell for all eternity! There is no punishment evil enough for this stinking pr__k!


7 posted on 11/14/2004 10:32:50 PM PST by broadsword (Weren't there a couple of giant Buddhist statues in Afghanistan? What happened to them?)
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To: broadsword

c'mon now, holding it in is bad for you.

say what you REALLY think!!! LOL


8 posted on 11/14/2004 10:34:46 PM PST by F15Eagle
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To: F15Eagle

Of course the reason he did it and the reason he made 3/4 mil per month is because PEOPLE ARE STUPID.

Make a policy, and teach your kids, your grand parents and you half wit siblings... NEVER BUY ANYTHING FROM SPAMMERS...

If you heard about it first via email DON'T BITE, even if you want the product (hint: you don't).


9 posted on 11/14/2004 10:34:59 PM PST by konaice
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To: F15Eagle

But I AM holding back... WAAAAAAAY back. Otherwise I might get banned.


10 posted on 11/14/2004 10:36:08 PM PST by broadsword (Weren't there a couple of giant Buddhist statues in Afghanistan? What happened to them?)
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To: Lurker
I'm normally a very nonviolent person, but just give me 10 minutes with this guy....

God, I HATE spam emails.

L

Two questions:

a) Who was paying this guy?
b) How long till they find another patsy to take his place?

11 posted on 11/14/2004 10:36:50 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: broadsword

LOL. g'night.

May a diseased Yak with 1000 fleas fall in love with all e-mail spammers and spyware creators / distributors / users.

and I curse their mustache as well. and their sister's mustache, too.


12 posted on 11/14/2004 10:37:50 PM PST by F15Eagle
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To: F15Eagle

HERE IS MY SENTENCE FOR HIM...MAKE HIM REPLY TO EACH AND EVERY SPAM HE SENT OUT ... THE REPLIES COULD BE COMPLIED TO THE COURT AND NOT ACTUALLY DELIVERED TO THE ORIGINAL VICTIM... THEN HE COULD BE SET FREE.. I FIGURE HE WOULD DIE BEFORE HE EVER GOT OUT OF JAIL.


13 posted on 11/14/2004 10:41:19 PM PST by Cate ( Bush is da' man)
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To: F15Eagle
Hey I just got an Email Suha Arafat wanting me to hold 20 million for her kid. She says I'll get more if I'm a Hornet person. It's not from Nigeria, what do you folks think?.




Well?
14 posted on 11/14/2004 10:45:25 PM PST by investigateworld (( .... Father Watch over our servicemen, for their task is righteous and the danger is great....))
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To: F15Eagle

I hate spam also. But isn't there a free speech issue here somewhere? Does anybody worry about that?


15 posted on 11/14/2004 10:48:23 PM PST by Tax Government (Defeat the Legacy Media. Become a monthly contributor to FR.)
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To: Tax Government

He wasn't convicted of spam---he was convicted of fraud.


16 posted on 11/14/2004 10:57:27 PM PST by waterman478
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To: Tax Government
But isn't there a free speech issue here somewhere?

Free speech? This is harrassment and trespass. If the guy knocked on my door with some sales pitch and I asked him not to come back, I can have his arrested if he sows up again. But since this is the internet, he should be welcomed in my home any time? Using equipment that I paid for for my own convenience, not his?

Besides that, when I walk into a store and there's a rack of store sales papers by the door, I'm free to pick one up or not. Usually I don't because I'm at the store to get a particular item and don't care about anything else they're offering this week.

Why should this guy use a computer I paid for, a phone line I pay for and an internet service I pay for to rack up 750 grand a month? He's a parasite, putting it politely.

17 posted on 11/14/2004 11:41:51 PM PST by PistolPaknMama (Keep away from people who try to belittle your ambitions. Small people always do that -- Mark Twain)
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To: F15Eagle
He also argued before the trial that the law is an unconstitutional infringement of free speech

This is NOT a free speech issue. These people come into our homes uninvited and use equipment and services WE paid for to line thier own pockets. It is trespass as surely as anyone who would physically enter my home uninvited.

18 posted on 11/14/2004 11:52:03 PM PST by PistolPaknMama (Keep away from people who try to belittle your ambitions. Small people always do that -- Mark Twain)
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To: F15Eagle

I bet that guy is hoping his fellow inmates never bought any of those penis enlargers he was selling. ;)


19 posted on 11/15/2004 12:49:44 AM PST by DreadCthulhu
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To: F15Eagle

If they passed a law making spamming a capital crime punishable by feeding spammers alive to hungry sharks with lasers mounted on their heads, I would support it wholeheartedly.


20 posted on 11/15/2004 12:56:19 AM PST by Imal (Marxism does not appeal to successful people.)
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To: PianoMan; F15Eagle; lowbridge
Which Nigerian spammer are you?

bump!!


21 posted on 11/15/2004 2:47:50 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: F15Eagle; Happy2BMe; devolve; Grampa Dave

Jeremy Jaynes:
Convicted spammer


22 posted on 11/15/2004 2:50:42 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: investigateworld
Hey I just got an Email Suha Arafat wanting me to hold 20 million for her kid. She says I'll get more if I'm a Hornet person. It's not from Nigeria, what do you folks think?.

Well?


Go for it.

(kidding ya)

23 posted on 11/15/2004 6:42:20 AM PST by Condor51 (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Gen G Patton)
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To: F15Eagle

Put him in with the general population.


24 posted on 11/15/2004 7:04:45 AM PST by SausageDog
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To: Tax Government

no there's no free speech issue on consistently pestering people who don't want to be bothered, especially by scams.

if he's got something to say, he can get a soapbox and go to Washington. D.C. and yak. he's gone.


25 posted on 11/15/2004 7:28:54 AM PST by F15Eagle
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To: Cate

I like that idea!


26 posted on 11/15/2004 7:29:16 AM PST by F15Eagle
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To: investigateworld

just be sure you don't have to marry Suha. That's the dangerous part.


27 posted on 11/15/2004 7:29:49 AM PST by F15Eagle
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To: PistolPaknMama

agreed.


28 posted on 11/15/2004 7:30:40 AM PST by F15Eagle
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To: Tax Government
But isn't there a free speech issue here somewhere?

Not even remotely. He peddles fraudulent schemes (fraud is not free speech). His mechanisms for perpetrating these frauds are theft of service and harassment, not to mention violation of all existing acceptable use policies.

29 posted on 11/15/2004 7:32:33 AM PST by kevkrom (Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. But it rocks absolutely, too.)
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To: F15Eagle

He must be sitting in prison thinking "Why, oh why did I send all those "penis enlargement" and "herbal viagra" emails?"


30 posted on 11/15/2004 7:35:46 AM PST by ko_kyi
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To: Tax Government

Spam is no different than Junk Faxes. They cost the user money. Use the recievers equiptment and bandwidth.

Junk Mail is legal because all the expesenses of production and deliver are paid by the advertiser.


31 posted on 11/15/2004 7:39:10 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: F15Eagle

No Taser ~ he needs to knee-capped!


32 posted on 11/15/2004 7:53:31 AM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: ko_kyi

It paid off for awhile. handsomely.

but not now. he should have to pay fees to all he harassed.

like I said $10 per spam will end most of this nonsense in the U.S.A. we'll get the others later.


33 posted on 11/15/2004 8:00:17 AM PST by F15Eagle
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To: MeekOneGOP

Spammer gets big time Zot!


34 posted on 11/15/2004 8:03:07 AM PST by Grampa Dave (FNC/ABCNNBCBS & the MSM fishwraps are the Rathering Fraudcasters of America!)
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To: Grampa Dave
Yeah!

35 posted on 11/15/2004 9:05:55 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: F15Eagle

At $750,000 per month gross, who says crime doesn't pay.

Let's see... a nine-year sentence was recommended, and the guy is worth $24 million. Sounds like a pretty good salary for those years.


36 posted on 11/15/2004 10:31:31 AM PST by Gondring (They can have my Bill of Rights when they pry it from my cold, dead hands!)
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To: Gondring

yeah he did alright financially. that's why there has to be a financial penalty per spam email. make it non-cost effective for American-based. foreigners will have to be handled separately.


37 posted on 11/15/2004 10:47:43 AM PST by F15Eagle
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To: Tax Government
But isn't there a free speech issue here somewhere?

No. This is a property rights issue, not a free speech issue.

38 posted on 11/15/2004 11:45:06 AM PST by steve-b (I put sentences together suspiciously well for a righty blogger.)
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To: F15Eagle

This iss

a) Republicans have to realize that being anti-spam is not being "anti-business,"
b) Just like faxes, there's a cost burden for receiving e-mail, and legislation similar to fax protection is needed,
c) The burden needs to be on the sender, not the recipient, making it opt-in, not opt-out,
d) Opt-out lists just provide lists of potential victims when a judicial stay is placed (see how that was done with "don't call" lists)--again meaning OPT-IN is required, not OPT-OUT,
e) Et cetera.

One of my biggest disappointments in W is that he just didn't "get it" with spam and his failed efforts against it.


39 posted on 11/15/2004 12:15:54 PM PST by Gondring (They can have my Bill of Rights when they pry it from my cold, dead hands!)
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To: F15Eagle
Jeremy Jaynes grossed up to $750,000 a month by sending out junk e-mail.

Ok, is it considered spam sending someone information if you obtain an email directly from them?

Look at that guys pick, he doesn't neccessarily look sad, after 750K a month who would be? Even if he did it LEGALLY, from what he knows, he would have at least pulled off HALF of that income and still been sitting pretty!

Someone PLEASE, teach me how to do it!

40 posted on 12/02/2004 5:30:21 AM PST by sirchtruth (Words Mean Things...)
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To: F15Eagle

Awe, come now. Where are the free traitors to defend this man. He was in business to make money...


41 posted on 12/02/2004 5:34:07 AM PST by Havoc (Reagan was right and so was McKinley. Down with free trade.)
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To: investigateworld

Go for it! If Hitlery thinks she's a hottie, she's good enough for you!


42 posted on 12/02/2004 6:12:03 AM PST by Redleg Duke (Pass Tort Reform Now! Make the bottom clean for the catfish!)
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To: investigateworld
She says I'll get more if I'm a Hornet person. It's not from Nigeria, what do you folks think?.

Depends on if you're actually a Hornet person...

If not, I'd just skip it.

43 posted on 12/02/2004 7:52:31 AM PST by Dementon (Life's tough. Get a helmet.)
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To: Dementon
Suha didn't bite. But I've got a dozen Nigerians running around and jumping hoops.
(That is my evil twin has a dozen.....)
44 posted on 12/02/2004 9:00:55 AM PST by investigateworld (( Another Cali refugee in Oregon . ))
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