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CA: Dreier race illustrates cautionary tale on immigration policy
Bakersfield Californian ^ | 11/15/04 | Beth Fouhy - AP

Posted on 11/15/2004 8:34:50 AM PST by NormsRevenge

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) - Tucked into last week's otherwise predictable California election results lay a cautionary tale about the election year's most uncovered issue: illegal immigration.

Republican Rep. David Dreier, the 24-year Los Angeles-area veteran who chairs the powerful House Rules committee, won re-election to his House seat with just under 54 percent of the vote, down from 64 percent in 2002. His Democratic opponent, Cynthia Matthews, won almost 43 percent of the vote, despite spending just over $31,000 in her campaign, compared to more than $900,000 spent by Dreier. A Libertarian candidate won 3.5 percent of the vote.

While Dreier's winning margin over Matthews can't really be characterized as close, it was his worst showing since 1980, when he was first elected by beating a Democratic incumbent. It was this year's closest congressional race involving an incumbent running for re-election in California, and even Dreier called himself "humbled" by the outcome at his victory speech on election night.

While the 52-year old Dreier wields extraordinary power on Capitol Hill, he is also a political Zelig with a talent for landing in the middle of everything that matters. He is well known to many people, constituents and others, as a telegenic talking head who pops up regularly on cable news talk shows, sometimes seeming to be on more than one at a time.

Dreier is close to the Bush family and is said to have the ear of President Bush's omnipotent political consigliere, Karl Rove. Back in California, as one of Arnold Schwarzenegger's top advisers during last year's recall election, he seemed to be everywhere - at Schwarzenegger's side during important photo ops, on television as a Schwarzenegger surrogate, and negotiating Schwarzenegger's sole debate appearance - while also somehow finding time to run one of the most important committees in Congress.

After the recall, he chaired Schwarzenegger's transition team while enjoying numerous entreaties to challenge Democratic Sen. Barbara Boxer. That exercise ginned up numerous news stories and television interviews for Dreier before he decided against making a run.

With power, visibility, and a congressional district drawn for Republicans, Dreier's future seemed limitless. That is, until two guys named John Kobylt and Ken Chiampu stepped in to reinforce former House Speaker Tip O'Neill's time-honored adage: all politics is local.

Kobylt and Chiampu host a daily talk show, "John and Ken," on KFI-AM, a Los Angeles radio station popular with conservatives. Recently, their chief topic has been illegal immigration. The two championed Arizona's ballot initiative to deny some public services to illegals, and held a contest to single out lawmakers they claim had done little to stop the flow of undocumented immigrants over California's border.

Winner of that contest - later dubbed their "Political Human Sacrifice" - was none other than Dreier, who has supported Bush's proposed guest worker program to grant legal status to millions of immigrants living in the United States. He has also championed more H1-B visas to foreign workers.

"Dreier's been on our show many times, using 30-minute filibusters to promote himself," Kobylt said in an interview. "He and other California Republicans whine about illegal immigration, but it's all lip service. So we decided the only way to get any action was to fire someone."

Thus began the John and Ken's "Fire Dreier" campaign, complete with a listener-designed Web site, video, and daily rantings on their show. So active were the two that the National Republican Congressional Committee filed a federal election complaint against the show, calling it an illegal campaign contribution to Dreier's opponent.

Dreier declined to come on the show to defend himself, but fought back hard with radio ads stressing his support of legislation making it harder to forge Social Security cards and penalizing employers who knowingly hire illegals. Schwarzenegger even recorded phone messages for Dreier, calling him "tough as nails" on immigration.

"Immigration is a very emotional issue, and there is a group of voters who have an intense, intense dislike for illegal immigrants," said Allan Hoffenblum, editor of the California Target Book. "Dreier has the same position that Bush has, which a lot of right wingers don't like, and it's easier to go after Dreier than Bush."

For his part, Kobylt said the immigration issue was a populist concern that both parties had effectively dropped.

"Republicans are in bed with businesses who like low labor costs, and Democrats have this socialist bent," he said. "But the taxpayers in this country cannot be responsible for a corrupt, bankrupt country like Mexico. We should start throwing employers in jail, a few fat rich white guys in prison."

Kobylt boasted that he was sure their campaign would open Dreier to a serious primary challenge in 2006, but Hoffenblum was more skeptical.

"The Republican establishment strongly, strongly supports him," Hoffenblum said. "Dreier would have Schwarzenegger walking precincts for him, and the president would probably join him."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
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1 posted on 11/15/2004 8:34:51 AM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge
"Republicans are in bed with businesses who like low labor costs, and Democrats have this socialist bent," he said. "But the taxpayers in this country cannot be responsible for a corrupt, bankrupt country like Mexico. We should start throwing employers in jail, a few fat rich white guys in prison."

Worth repeating.

2 posted on 11/15/2004 8:40:42 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: NormsRevenge
DeLay won with only 55%. Is there a cautionary tale there, too?
3 posted on 11/15/2004 8:41:59 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: NormsRevenge
I was going to vote against Dreier until the last moment when I went to the 'Fire Dreier' rally and took a good look around and saw no one I recognized from the district.

Mathews, and her partner, just struck me as a disaster waiting to happen as well.

I'll certainly be working to see that a strong conservative goes up against Dreier during the primary in 2006. Even if Dreier wins the primary, it should pull him back from the too moderate stance he's been taking recently.
4 posted on 11/15/2004 8:42:33 AM PST by kingu (Which would you bet on? Iraq and Afghanistan? Or Haiti and Kosovo?)
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To: GraniteStateConservative
DeLay won with only 55%. Is there a cautionary tale there, too?

It depends. What did he win with in 2000 and 2002?

5 posted on 11/15/2004 8:45:07 AM PST by NeoCaveman ("I expressed myself rather forcefully, felt better after I had done it," -- VP Cheney)
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To: Mr. Mojo

One think about John Kobylt: he says it like it is. He is so refreshing on the air because he really WON'T spin! No loofahs either! He is Mr. Raging Common Sense.


6 posted on 11/15/2004 8:45:26 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: NormsRevenge
Dreier is a phony on the immigration issue.

Three things need to happen that will help to solve America's illegal immigration problem. First, the feds have to make an honest effort at sealing the borders shut, once and for all. Second. There must be full enforcement of existing laws that punish employers for hiring illegals. And finally, the feds must end any and all government welfare funding to illegals.

Open borders and employers who want cheap labor equate to continued poor policy that will only exacerbate the overall problem. NO policy agenda to control and reduce illegal immigration into the US will ever work, unless the borders are slammed shut first.

7 posted on 11/15/2004 8:48:18 AM PST by Reagan Man ("America has spoken")
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To: Yaelle
One think about John Kobylt: he says it like it is.

Ready for natl syndication?

8 posted on 11/15/2004 8:52:50 AM PST by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan)
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To: NormsRevenge
Everybody was shocked when Mike Tyson said he was gonna "eat your children" but here California conservatives are

eating their own

God forbid anyone mobilize to defeat the Sanchez sisters, or Boxer, or ....

9 posted on 11/15/2004 8:52:55 AM PST by JohnnyZ ("Thought I was having trouble with my adding. It's all right now." - Clint Eastwood)
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To: Reagan Man

---if we are going to punish employers so hard for employing illegals, we better make sure they can't be hit with a discrimination suit for attempting to sort them out---


10 posted on 11/15/2004 9:01:08 AM PST by rellimpank
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To: Mr. Mojo
"Republicans are in bed with businesses who like low labor costs, and Democrats have this socialist bent," he said. "But the taxpayers in this country cannot be responsible for a corrupt, bankrupt country like Mexico. We should start throwing employers in jail, a few fat rich white guys in prison."

Worth repeating.

Yes it is

This is the party's major weak point.

To the libertarians thinking out there saying this just a free market a flow of labor to where it gets it best price... the fact is this cheap labor does not pay for itself a lot is payed under the table so not taxed (One reason I favor a national sale tax and no income tax) and every worker along with there wife and kid's consume vast amounts of tax payer dollars in soc. services the tax payer are in effect providing subsidized labor to business

11 posted on 11/15/2004 9:13:46 AM PST by tophat9000 (We didnít rise they sunk look at the blue, water filled, sink holes map (Mike Moore Fatass divots ?)
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To: Yaelle

you are kidding! John & Ken are total blowhards and always have been. Why is there no focus on the DNC rep they picked to join their attacks on Dreier after it was clear they had an agenda? Their whole stance on this issue is absurd because the DemoncRATs are the true obstructionists when it comes to immigration because they cry "racist" every time reforms are passed or suggested. John & Ken don't tell it like it is, they try to generate ratings, plain & simple. And their blatant inconsistencies and absurd positioning over the years is what's left this former listener a realist when it comes to their cross-eyed DNC friendly politics.


12 posted on 11/15/2004 9:16:57 AM PST by Steven W.
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To: NormsRevenge

#1 - "John and Ken" aren't all that popular. They are just one morning radio show in a very large market. This was their shtick.

#2 - What may have hurt Dreier more than the immigration issue was that he was outed as a closeted gay.


13 posted on 11/15/2004 11:08:39 AM PST by capitan_refugio
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To: NormsRevenge

bttt


14 posted on 11/15/2004 11:13:01 AM PST by happygrl
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ping


15 posted on 11/15/2004 12:43:16 PM PST by gubamyster
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To: kingu
I was going to vote against Dreier until the last moment when I went to the 'Fire Dreier' rally and took a good look around and saw no one I recognized from the district.

This is the biggest load of crap I've seen all day.

You know hundreds of thousands of people that live within his district eh? You get the BS award of the day! Congratulations!

16 posted on 11/15/2004 12:54:50 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Steven W.

a) I don't listen to talk radio.
b) I know full well that NO democrat, especially in CA, can whisper a word against illegals for fear of banishment.
c) I know that CA is going to return more dems than republicans in any given election - for now at least.
d) I know that President Bush and the establishment believe that they can slide another amnesty past the masses under cover of everything else on the agenda (admittedly, a big agenda).
e) Apparenbtly this stunt cut the margin by 16% or so - not enough to lose a republican seat but at least some small message to the party.
f) So regardless of who the initiators were and regardless, or maybe because, the result was not a loss - I'd say do it again and again until the message gets across.


17 posted on 11/15/2004 1:38:26 PM PST by norton
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To: NormsRevenge

Drier has a connection to the Saudi family as well - I think he's looking to be Homeland Security Chief - another clown pig at the trough - even if Americans die...


18 posted on 11/15/2004 2:05:35 PM PST by Republicus2001
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To: JohnnyZ
eating their own God forbid anyone mobilize to defeat the Sanchez sisters, or Boxer

O Lord, another one of "what about Joe Baca" bait and switcher. Yeah, Boxer was up for reelection this past term, GOP ran a boring, proillegal moderate against her, how did that work out?

19 posted on 11/15/2004 2:11:01 PM PST by PeoplesRep_of_LA (I can't believe I voted for this Cheap Labor Activist)
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To: PeoplesRep_of_LA
So you only attack Republicans because you think they're the only ones you can defeat? Brilliant.

Maybe if you weren't racist you would have supported Escobar or Coronado against the Sanchez girls. But no, you preferred to attack Bill Jones and David Dreier for not supporting shooting immigrants on sight .....

20 posted on 11/15/2004 2:14:32 PM PST by JohnnyZ ("Thought I was having trouble with my adding. It's all right now." - Clint Eastwood)
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