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"If Walter Cronkite Was Around Today...Kerry Would Be President" (Barf Alert!!!)
Media Research Center ^ | 11/15/04

Posted on 11/15/2004 10:13:05 AM PST by Conservative Coulter Fan

"If Walter Cronkite was around today," USA Today founder Al Neuharth proclaimed in a speech in South Dakota last week, "I think John Kerry would be President" because of "the trust the people in Middle America had in Cronkite, when he returned from Vietnam opposed to the war, public opposition soon followed." As recounted by the Daily Republic in Mitchell, South Dakota, in addition to boasting of the influence of Cronkite's bias, Neuharth "said he thought if McGovern had won the presidency in 1972, U.S. troops would have pulled out from Vietnam a lot sooner with a lot fewer casualties, the Cold War could have ended sooner and there would have been a compassionate Democratic leadership." Neuharth seriously maintained: "The seeds for ending the Cold War were sown by George McGovern."

FNC's Brit Hume in his Wednesday "Grapevine" segment quoted Neuharth's contentions and I tracked down the local newspaper story with the quotes. An excerpt from the November 10 Daily Republic article, "USA Today founder criticizes national media's political coverage," by Harold Campbell:

The national media took a few hits on election coverage from Al Neuharth, a Eureka native and founder of USA Today, who spoke at Tuesday's annual McGovern Center Conference at Dakota Wesleyan University.

"I think the media often reflects public activities or opinions rather than reports on them," he said.

Neuharth said the national media probably was more unfair to McGovern during his 1972 presidential campaign than to any other candidate he can remember.

"Many (reporters) got caught up in the country's apparent support for Vietnam," he said. "The media often reflects public activities or opinions rather than reports on them. They certainly weren't fair and objective in 1972."

However, he said he thought the presence of one journalist in the 1970s helped shape policy, Walter Cronkite.

Because of the trust people in Middle America had in Cronkite, when he returned from Vietnam opposed to the war, public opposition soon followed,

"If Walter Cronkite was around today, I think John Kerry would be president," he said.

Most of Neuharth's presentation consisted of fielding questions from audience members in the newly dedicated Sherman Center....

He also said he thought the national media was doing a good job of reporting the facts from Iraq.

"The number of troops involved and casualties are facts, and we should report those facts," he said.

"However, in a war, both sides of the conflict are great propagandists, and we have to separate facts from propaganda."

He said reporting the facts could play a key role in public response to U.S. policy in the Middle East.

"People have to ask themselves if this is worth the price," he said....

Neuharth said he has known McGovern for more than 50 years.

He said he thought if McGovern had won the presidency in 1972, U.S. troops would have pulled out from Vietnam a lot sooner with a lot fewer casualties, the Cold War could have ended sooner and there would have been a compassionate Democratic leadership.

"The seeds for ending the Cold War were sown by George McGovern," Neuharth said.

Neuharth is the founder and senior advisory chairman of the Freedom Forum, a non-partisan foundation dedicated to free press, free speech and free spirit for all people.

The Freedom Forum funds and operates the Newseum, the First Amendment Center and the Diversity Institute.

Neuharth was the chairman of the Freedom Forum from 1986 to 1997, and was a trustee of the foundation and its predecessor, the Gannett Foundation, from 1965 to 1999.

He is also the former chairman and chief executive officer of Gannett Co.

END of Excerpt

For the article in full: www.mitchellrepublic.com

Neuharth devoted his Friday USA Today column to similar praise of McGovern, "Is McGovern again ahead of the times?" For the November 12 piece, with a picture of Neuharth: www.usatoday.com


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1 posted on 11/15/2004 10:13:05 AM PST by Conservative Coulter Fan
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

Cronkite is around...and he proved that he's losing it...


2 posted on 11/15/2004 10:13:55 AM PST by Keith (NOW, MORE THAN EVER....IT'S ABOUT THE JUDGES!)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

fortunately we have Ted Baxter- I mean Dan Rather at SeeBS


3 posted on 11/15/2004 10:15:09 AM PST by Mr. K
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

Cronkite is around and he spoke out. His statement that Bush put Osama up to making that last video to help him in the election most likely cost Kerry votes.


4 posted on 11/15/2004 10:16:55 AM PST by Phantom Lord (Advantages are taken, not handed out)
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To: Keith

He was losing it long before he was retired. He's a commie sympathizing fraud. Always has been. Thus, Rather was the perfect choice for his replacement.


5 posted on 11/15/2004 10:17:13 AM PST by pissant
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To: Keith

"...all this nation truly needs is a Wonko the Sane to erect signs indicating to bewildered Democrats that they have inadvertently wandered into that strange land Outside The Asylum, where people believe in strange things such as God, moral values, personal responsibility and a literal Constitution." --Vox Day, World Net Daily


6 posted on 11/15/2004 10:17:21 AM PST by Conservative Coulter Fan (BURN IN HELL, MICHAEL MOORE!)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

"If the dog hadn't stopped to sh*t, he'd have caught the rabbit!"


7 posted on 11/15/2004 10:18:52 AM PST by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan
Al Neuharth doesn't "get it" either!

USA Today and Cronkite are part of the MSM, too.

Too bad for them that Al Gore invented the internet!

8 posted on 11/15/2004 10:19:26 AM PST by Sooth2222
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan
Neuharth seriously maintained: "The seeds for ending the Cold War were sown by George McGovern."

This man needs medical help - NOW.
9 posted on 11/15/2004 10:20:00 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (America's shining sun is Conservatism)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

Maybe if Cronkite were NOT around then, VietNam would be free . . .


10 posted on 11/15/2004 10:20:27 AM PST by cvq3842
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

These people need to move beyond the 60's and 70's. They need to face the fact that their clothes sucked, their hair sucked, their music sucked, and their greasy faces sucked, too. Its like they're just lying around sucking in air like a dying fish waiting for water to happen.


11 posted on 11/15/2004 10:20:51 AM PST by MahaMarty (Election Night! Enter Right! Take my hand!!! Off to Ronald Reagan Land!!!)
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To: Sooth2222

----Al Neuharth has got one thing right--his description of himself for his book--


12 posted on 11/15/2004 10:21:58 AM PST by rellimpank
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

Gotta give Al this: if McGovern had won, the Cold War really would have been over sooner. And guess who the loser would have been!


13 posted on 11/15/2004 10:22:44 AM PST by Snickersnee (Where are we going? And what's with this handbasket???)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

"He said he thought if McGovern had won the presidency in 1972, U.S. troops would have pulled out from Vietnam a lot sooner with a lot fewer casualties, the Cold War could have ended sooner and there would have been a compassionate Democratic leadership."

This maybe true, but like most of the stories in the MSM, he leaves out the most important point: the Cold War would have been won by the other side.

MSM, RIP.


14 posted on 11/15/2004 10:24:04 AM PST by ALPAPilot
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

Cronkite would have been shredded by the new media even worse for his lies than Rather.


15 posted on 11/15/2004 10:24:24 AM PST by FreedomSurge
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

After all the lies and propaganda Chronkite and SeeBS reported during the Viet Nam war, he and his network have about as much credibility as a screen door on a submarine!


Semper Fi,
Kelly


16 posted on 11/15/2004 10:24:57 AM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan
In other words, Cronkite was never the impartial newsman he pretended to be. He made it blatantly obvious in his reportage that he opposed American intervention in Vietnam.

At least they're not lying about Cronkite being a nonpartisan reporter anymore.

17 posted on 11/15/2004 10:25:00 AM PST by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

Cronkite didn't have the truth detectors on the Internet to refute his lies about Viet Nam.


18 posted on 11/15/2004 10:25:11 AM PST by CzarNicky (The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

If FR was around when cronkite was LYING about the Tet Offensive, he would have been as humiliated as Dan Rather.

Cronkite survived based on NO COMPETITION.


19 posted on 11/15/2004 10:26:30 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: All

Neuharth is brain-dead. If McGovern won in 1972, he would have taken office Jan 20, 1973. The last American troops left Vietnam on 29 March, 1973. You want faster than that?


20 posted on 11/15/2004 10:27:10 AM PST by BushMeister ("We are a nation that has a government - not the other way around." --Ronald Reagan)
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To: BushMeister

"Uncle Walter" is a courageous, valiant, fearless journalist. I read his book, and he went out sailing w/ Ted Kennedy on his yatch several times. Any man who would cross a body of water in a vehicle Teddy controls has to be DAMNED brave!


21 posted on 11/15/2004 10:29:29 AM PST by scottybk (Asking Americans to vote for Kerry on defense is like asking a chicken to vote for Colonel Sanders.)
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To: MahaMarty

"...the 60's and 70's...sucked..."

Sorry, but I still like the 60's music - that's my teens/twenties time. Can't argue about your opinion on the clothes and hair, though.


22 posted on 11/15/2004 10:29:49 AM PST by beelzepug (tag not to be removed under penalty of law except by consumer.)
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To: Keith

If Walter had decided another career, we would have won Viet Nam. Embassies bombings, WACO, 9/11, OKC, Initial bombing of WTC, Sexual Revolution, Abortions, NOW Group,
dumbing down of America, and illegal drugs may never had happened either.....


23 posted on 11/15/2004 10:30:10 AM PST by Two-Bits (God Bless America and those that love her)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan
Well what am I reading here? Does this guy think the media should be ashamed that it didn't do enough to get Kerry elected?

I would write the following byline for Al Neuharth's statement:

"Dragging Them Out of the Closet: USA Today Executive "Outs" Media as Kerry Supporters"
24 posted on 11/15/2004 10:30:18 AM PST by StJacques
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

All these people live in a "What-If?" world, pining nostalgically for what never was, and projecting that what never was would led us to some primrose path closed off from us today by what in fact IS. They would be much better off looking at what IS, and figuring out the logic of what IS, and how it actually transpired , not how what could or should have been DID NOT transpire. Reality is always too much for them, though.


25 posted on 11/15/2004 10:30:37 AM PST by willyboyishere
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

All these people live in a "What-If?" world, pining nostalgically for what never was, and projecting that what never was would led us to some primrose path closed off from us today by what in fact IS. They would be much better off looking at what IS, and figuring out the logic of what IS, and how it actually transpired , not how what could or should have been DID NOT transpire. Reality is always too much for them, though.


26 posted on 11/15/2004 10:30:49 AM PST by willyboyishere
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

LMAO, is cronkite dead? I think not, therefore, he had NO influence whatsoever, 60 million people can't be wrong imo!!


27 posted on 11/15/2004 10:31:58 AM PST by rockabyebaby (What goes around, comes around!)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

Al Neuharth (who is about 78 years old) also wrote a column recently on adult diapers, starting with the humorous anecdote of grocery shopping with his 4-year-old (adopted) child, and putting the diapers on the check-out counter, only to have the child announce they weren't for him, they were for Daddy!

USA Today was a great idea and continues to be a great money-making enterprise. Neuharth is over, and the only person, besides (apparently) the Media Research Center who believes his column matters is ... Neuharth.


28 posted on 11/15/2004 10:32:17 AM PST by laurav
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To: kellynla

Kelly,

Thank you for your service.


29 posted on 11/15/2004 10:33:04 AM PST by rockabyebaby (What goes around, comes around!)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

"USA Today founder Al Neuharth"

Hmmmm? So Al agrees that Cronkite telling the enemies in Vietnam they had won the TET offensive .. when in truth America had won .. Cronkite's statement emboldened our enemies and caused the death of 48,000 more Americans.

Yeah Al .. that's quite an accomplishment!!


30 posted on 11/15/2004 10:33:15 AM PST by CyberAnt (Where are the dem supporters? - try the trash cans in back of the abortion clinics.)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

ARCHIE: "Edith, what channel is the Cronkite News on?"

EDITH: "Channel 2, Archie...the one we don't watch because you keep saying that Walter Cronkite is a Communist."


31 posted on 11/15/2004 10:34:48 AM PST by raccoonradio (Raccoon News Channel: Fur and Balanced)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

Actually I think if Cronkite was around today he would be enboldened with the example of other broadcasters to bias his reports leftward. In fact, he would have developed almost into a parody of himself, much like Dan Rather is a parody of himself.


32 posted on 11/15/2004 10:35:06 AM PST by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan
They got Cronkite, we got Coulter.

No Contest

33 posted on 11/15/2004 10:37:05 AM PST by HardStarboard (Surrounded by Kerry/Edwards Signs in Washington State)
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To: beelzepug

Not all 60's music sucked, I'll admit. Just the weird hippie-flower stuff...for some reason San Fran Nan comes to mind when I say that.


34 posted on 11/15/2004 10:38:51 AM PST by MahaMarty (Election Night! Enter Right! Take my hand!!! Off to Ronald Reagan Land!!!)
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To: MahaMarty

Now wait a minute!

The clothes sucked, the economy sucked but the
music rocked and rolled! Just because you happen
to like Donny Osmond and The Partridge Famly is no license
to rag on Led Zepp, Styx, Nugent, Steve Miller,
The Eagles, The Who, The Beatles, Floyd, Uncle
Alice Cooper, Badfinger, Atlanta Rhythm Section,
The Doors, Lynyrd Skynyrd, CDB, Outlaws, Allman Bros,
Jefferson Airplane/Starship, Jimi, Queen, Raspberries,
TRex, Blue Oyster Cult, Bad Co, THe Stones, AC/DC,
Edgar & Johnnie Winter, Chicago, Boston, Kansas
and sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
many countless others.

Lets keep things in perspective shall we? After
all, CDB actually called what is going on here
some 30 yrs ago:

Well gather round;
you can get loud chillen;
be proud,
you can be proud you a rebel
cuz da south's gonna do it agin;
and agin;

MV(play nice)


35 posted on 11/15/2004 10:38:51 AM PST by madvlad ((Born in the south, raised around the globe and STILL republican))
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan
No. America trusted Cronkite once and he betrayed them.

"Fool me once, shame on you...fool me twice, shame on me!"

36 posted on 11/15/2004 10:39:42 AM PST by Redleg Duke (Pass Tort Reform Now! Make the bottom clean for the catfish!)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

So what is big Al REALLY saying? That if Walter were at the helm he would have had enough sway to persuade Americans to vote for Kerry? You mean, Al is admitting that this would have been the effort of Conkrite? and by extension, Al is saying that it is acceptable for journalists to report with an activist position in order to achieve a desired political outcome?

Wow! This is huge (or hugh as some here say). USAToday admitting that it is acceptable for a journalist to work toward, or to try and force a certain outcome by the manner in which they report! Staggering! The MSM is nothing but a lying leftist tool - a spawn of satan.


37 posted on 11/15/2004 10:40:48 AM PST by Obadiah
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To: MahaMarty

"These people need to move beyond the 60's and 70's. They need to face the fact that their clothes sucked, their hair sucked, their music sucked, and their greasy faces sucked, too. Its like they're just lying around sucking in air like a dying fish waiting for water to happen."

Can't argue that they need to move along. I'll even concede that those specific people might have needed to wash more often or cut their hair, but I HAVE to argue about the music.....

....especially since most people still listen to it.

As for the clothes.... Fringe jackets or love beads? Which one bothers you? Just curious. After all....

Memo to Today's fashion plates:

...pull your pants up.

Sheesh.


38 posted on 11/15/2004 10:45:23 AM PST by Hi Heels (Proud to be a Pajamarazzi.)
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To: longtermmemmory
Cronkite survived based on NO COMPETITION.

Exactly. If the New Media had been around back then, maybe Vietnam would be democratic today.
39 posted on 11/15/2004 10:47:44 AM PST by Freepdonia (Victory is Ours! (I told you so :-))
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan
"I think the media often reflects distorts public activities or opinions rather than reports on them," he said.
40 posted on 11/15/2004 10:48:52 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The democRATS are near the tipping point.)
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To: Keith
I have to agree with part of the speech. The 1970's Walter Cronkite would have gotten Kerry elected. Cronkite was trusted like no other which is why his lies about vietnam were so damaging to the country.

This was also an age where people didn't question what they read in newspapers or heard on TV. The news organizations were free to shape american opinion by selectively reporting the news - with cable and the internet they can't get away with that any more.

I think that CBS was the first news organization in the US to realize that they had this power and they used it during Vietnam. What's kind of sad is that CBS news still thinks that it has this power.
41 posted on 11/15/2004 10:50:12 AM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: madvlad

The clothes sucked, the economy sucked but the
music rocked and rolled! Just because you happen
to like Donny Osmond and The Partridge Famly is no license
to rag on Led Zepp (Led Zep are gods among insects, especially with the people on this list), Styx (Tomo Arigato, Mr. Robato? Gimme a break), Nugent (Another legend), Steve Miller,
The Eagles (A little too country rock for me), The Who (Baba O'Reilly...an underrated classic), The Beatles (good music, bad ideas), Floyd (if you're high...unless its Comfortably Numb...or at the denist), Uncle
Alice Cooper (Ahead of his time), Badfinger, Atlanta Rhythm Section,
The Doors (good music, lead singer: bad ideas), Lynyrd Skynyrd (legends), CDB, Outlaws, Allman Bros (What's the point after Skydog died?),
Jefferson Airplane/Starship (Too drunk at too many shows), Jimi (Ahead of his time there would be no EVH if it weren't for him and Clapton), Queen (Influenced too many Live Aid people later), Raspberries,
TRex, Blue Oyster Cult (Watch SNL, and they'll sum it up), Bad Co, THe Stones (Mick Jagger dancing and looking like a woman, a lot like the other bands mention), AC/DC (How are you infer that I refer to them as sucking!),
Edgar & Johnnie Winter, Chicago (25 or 6 to 4 is ripped off by too many punk bands and not played enough by Classic Rock stations), Boston (refer to AC/DC comments), Kansas (ONE SONG! ONE SONG! OVERRATED!)
and sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
many countless others...YOU FORGOT CLAPTON!?!?! Such a grave injustice...


42 posted on 11/15/2004 10:51:24 AM PST by MahaMarty (Election Night! Enter Right! Take my hand!!! Off to Ronald Reagan Land!!!)
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To: Keith

First of all, the sentence should read, "If Walter Cronkite WERE around..." Secondly, if this assertion be accurate, all that means is that Cronkite would have used his job to throw the election to Kerry. This isn't "news" at all.


43 posted on 11/15/2004 10:53:25 AM PST by utahagen
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

Guess he hasn't seen ole Walter lately. I would just LOVE for the crazy old coot to come back to the news game full time. It would be a blessing for our side.

Also, GET OVER IT. Kerry lost. Y'all didn't even like him, you picked a lousy candidate, so stop pretending he was the Great Left Hope already.


44 posted on 11/15/2004 10:53:43 AM PST by AmericanChef
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To: HardStarboard

I will always believe that Walter Cronkite was the reason the US got lulled to sleep regarding the situation in Iran, and Khomeni's takeover of that country.

His portrayal of Khomeni as a 'freedom fighter' rather than the terrorist fanatic he really was, and suppressing any support for the Shah we should have clamored for has caused the fundamentalistic terrorism we see today.


45 posted on 11/15/2004 10:55:24 AM PST by Lightfinger
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

Yeah, and the south would have won the civil war too! (Sarc)


46 posted on 11/15/2004 10:58:06 AM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan
From what I've learned from Uncle Walter since he retired from CBS, that can hardly be considered a compliment.

Still, he loved the space program, so there's hope ...
47 posted on 11/15/2004 11:00:23 AM PST by MattGarrett
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan
"The seeds for ending the Cold War were sown by George McGovern," Neuharth said.

Well, I suppose the Cold War would have ended with a Soviet victory, so Al is probably right about that.

48 posted on 11/15/2004 11:01:16 AM PST by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan
"If Walter Cronkite was around today, I think John Kerry would be president," he said

He is around Al, unfortunately he a drooling lunatic-try another example.

49 posted on 11/15/2004 11:02:59 AM PST by Larry381 (Our long national nightmare is over-The Scott Peterson trial)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan
"The seeds for ending the Cold War were sown by George McGovern."

Yeah and Neville Chamberlain won World War II.

SNL should hire this guy as a writer.

50 posted on 11/15/2004 11:03:26 AM PST by DeFault User
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