Skip to comments."Red states" that supported President Bush also supported slavery
Posted on 11/15/2004 11:19:28 AM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection
*In case it's hard to read, on the Pre-Civil War Map, the red areas were slave states and the brown areas were territories open to slavery, while the green areas were free states and territories.
*These distinctions eerily correspond to the red states vs. blue states on the 2004 Election Map ~~ i.e., the blue (Kerry) states correspond to the pre-civil-war free states and territories, while the red (Bush) states correspond to what were the slave states and territories.
*To me, the images (and subsequent comments) simply point out that we as a country cannot, or refuse to, face difficult racial issues.
*I think the mentality which allowed certain parts of the country at a certain time in our history to accept the violent subjugation of an entire human race ...
*By using the headline "Free States vs. Slave States", an immediate deception is perpetrated that continues to deceive right through all following commentary. These were philisophical differences in forms of government and policy, not whether or not black people should be free.
*It is so hard for me to understand the wailing coming from the Dems on the slave map issue.
*Blue states versus Red States means nothing!
*1. The republican party (and the dems too) are very much different in character and ideal than they were 140 or so years ago.
*2. Jon Koppenhoefer makes a sensible and compelling argument but I want to focus on the slave/free map.
*The last major battle of the American civil war may well have been over LBJ's great society; we've been fighting continuously for 140 years.
*It would give more seats to California, Florida, Texas, North Carolina and other large and growing states, without taking away the one (minimum) Representative for Wyoming's 400,000 citizens.
alaska supported slavery?
Ahhhh that was WAY before my time.
Senator Robert Byrd (D) = KKK Grand Wizard
There were slaves all through the north too...
Arizona is a red state. We weren't even in the Union until 1912. I don't believe we supported slavery. And Utah. I know they didn't have slaves over there. But, what do I know. I'm not elite enough.
Does that include Iowa, Ohio, Indiana, West Virginia, and the litany of Western states that were still territories?
That's really gimped logic by the rats. Democrats were (and are) the slavers. Republicans were the abolishionist party.
Lincoln was a Republican... 'nuff said.
Yep, and they were run by Democrats at the time, correct?
Slaves states that went for Kerry were Md. and Del. although both supported the Union (Md. only because Lincoln took put pro-union people in the state government.)
Who wrote this? Carol Simpson?
I was wondering why I supported President Bush, and suddenly realized it is because I am an ignorant, racist redneck... Apparently I'm real stupid, too... And I wanna own slaves...
Yeah, I'm warming up to those Democrats...
I hope that the idiot who came up with this has some Icy Hot handy. They're going to need it when they finish stretching.
Without dedicated proslavery generals like US Grant and WT Sherman, how could the Confederacy have lasted as long as it did?
The same goes for that bastion of the old Confederacy, North Dakota. Some historians say that the secession of the Dakota territory was the factor that inspired Virginia to finally breakaway, along with fiercely pro-slavery West Virginia.
Excuse me but Oklahoma didn't become a State until 1907 and Arizona was behind us!
I believe I am correct when I say that there were a great many of the "blue" states that voted for a Democratic President who (1) tried to pack the Supreme Court to get his way, and (2) threw lots of American citizens (who happened to be of Japanese descent) into concentration camps.
Indiana and Kentucky and Virginia and Ohio were Nothern States....
Carole Simpson revisited. More stupidity.
We also volunteer in great numbers to fight for this great nation at every opportunity.
We also lead the nation in charitable contributions.
We also have a lower cost of living.
We also have less murders every year.
I could go on and on...
Yeah but it was OK when they were the SOLID SOUTH ( back in dem segregation days ) and pullling the DEM lever
The Western States and Midwest aren't slave states. They were Free Soil country.
And it was Republicans who freed the slaves.
I would venture to say that most racially motivated riots have been in the "blue" states or "blue" metros.
January Surprise: Bush has secret plan to reinstitute Slavery!!!
It ain't states its Blue BIg Cities
I live in PA and factor out Philly and we is RED
Who gives a #%*#?!? Man, leftists are the biggest sore losers that ever set foot upon the earth. Get over it, you lost!!!
Now the blue states promote indentured servitude and treat minorities like objects.
Witness the black man who drove a cab in NYC. A rich, white liberal woman gets into his cab and has him drive her somewhere. She says something bad about Bush and asks him if he's voting for Kerry. He says, no, he's voting for Bush. She goes mental and yells at him all the rest of the way. As she gets out, she is incredibly mean and lets him know that she will MAKE HIM PAY. So she invented false charges against him and the City of NY fined him.
Witness also Judge Janice Brown and Miguel Estrada who were turned into ugly caricatures in cartoons because the liberal establishment cannot stand free thinking. In either case, the bigots of the left said that other people were telling these educated and proven individuals what to think.
Is it any wonder that the libs have lost credibility? That's what the election was all about, not the values votes (which was from the bad exit polling anyway)
Kansas and Nebraska were both free by the beginning of the Civil War as well.
Pesky things, those facts...
What the hey, I thought that there were only 11 secessionist slave states (let us not forget those Union states, like MD. which were also slave states). I didn't know that slavery was currently extant in the states. Silly me.
Liberals have controlled education for at least the last forty years. This is what you get, institutionalized ignorance.
Ironic isn't that the secession states are now the most patriotic and fly the Stars and Stripes the most
Kansas also was a FREE state. We had quite a border war going on with Missouri and my city, Lawrence, was burned to the ground by William Quantrill and raiders from Missouri.
Me thinks someone needs to check a history book.
That has to be one of the most stupid Op-Ed's I have ever read.
My state was called "Bloody Kansas" because it wouldn't go along with the slaves states. The Missouri Border Ruffians took offense to Kansas' opposition to slavery and much bloodshed followed. Kansas was anti-slavery and is positively a red state.
Map of the division of the states during the Civil War. Blue represents Union states, red represents Confederate states, green represents unaffiliated states and yellow represents states that did not exist until after the War.
the correlation is "eerie" only if you have a demented mind. one look at the maps leaves ND, SD, Iowa, Indiana, Ohio and Maryland as exceptions to this "rule". not much of a correlation unless you also just want to believe WHAT? Fill in the Blank? Ok, i believe that this is nothing more than HS. (that's Horsesh*t)
New Hampshire and Wisconsin were Alllllmost slave states, but not quite.
Whatta bunch of garbage. Who thinks of this dreck?
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