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"Red states" that supported President Bush also supported slavery
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| November 15, 2004
Posted on 11/15/2004 11:19:28 AM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Ironic isn't that the secession states are now the most patriotic and fly the Stars and Stripes the most
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posted on
11/15/2004 11:32:02 AM PST
by
uncbob
To: Tumbleweed_Connection
First of all, Ohio, Indiana, Alaska and a few more didn't support slavery. West Virgina also became a state specifically because it wanted no part of the Confederate states and slavery.
Mainly though the whole thing is specious and one big non-sequiter. By the same logic we can say that because NYC overwhelmingly supported Kerry then it says something about his supporters because during the Civil War there were race riots that killed overa thousand blacks and there was serious talks of NYC seceding Dom the north. We can say that the Salem Witch trials prove that Kerry supporters are superstitious idiots. It a bunch of malarkey. Everywhere in the world, if you go back far enough in the past, you would find signs of bigotry, intolerance, and paternalism. Its just that in today, in America, that can be found in the northeast.
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posted on
11/15/2004 11:32:16 AM PST
by
golch1979
("Captain Sobel, we solute the rank, not the man.")
To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Kansas also was a FREE state. We had quite a border war going on with Missouri and my city, Lawrence, was burned to the ground by William Quantrill and raiders from Missouri.
Me thinks someone needs to check a history book.
To: Tumbleweed_Connection
That has to be one of the most stupid Op-Ed's I have ever read.
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posted on
11/15/2004 11:32:19 AM PST
by
KingPin
(Live free or be a democrat.)
To: Tribune7
My state was called "Bloody Kansas" because it wouldn't go along with the slaves states. The Missouri Border Ruffians took offense to Kansas' opposition to slavery and much bloodshed followed. Kansas was anti-slavery and is positively a red state.
To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Well.....in the 1956 election, the only states that Adlai Stevenson won against Ike were in the Deep South. And what does that tell you? Uh, not much, I guess.
To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Not quite
Map of the division of the states during the Civil War. Blue represents Union states, red represents Confederate states, green represents unaffiliated states and yellow represents states that did not exist until after the War.
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posted on
11/15/2004 11:32:31 AM PST
by
finnman69
(cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
To: Tumbleweed_Connection
the correlation is "eerie" only if you have a demented mind. one look at the maps leaves ND, SD, Iowa, Indiana, Ohio and Maryland as exceptions to this "rule". not much of a correlation unless you also just want to believe WHAT? Fill in the Blank? Ok, i believe that this is nothing more than HS. (that's Horsesh*t)
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posted on
11/15/2004 11:32:34 AM PST
by
kralcmot
(Duh-uhhhhhhh)
To: HungarianGypsy
Montana was a slave state as well. Iowa too.
New Hampshire and Wisconsin were Alllllmost slave states, but not quite.
Whatta bunch of garbage. Who thinks of this dreck?
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posted on
11/15/2004 11:32:36 AM PST
by
wbill
To: Tumbleweed_Connection
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posted on
11/15/2004 11:33:02 AM PST
by
Time is now
(We'll live to see it......or something like it....)
To: Tumbleweed_Connection
I know I'm the umpteenth person to point this out, but as long as we're bringing up ancient history, it's worth remembering that in the days of slavery and right up through Jim Crow, those states were run exclusively by Democrats.
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posted on
11/15/2004 11:33:30 AM PST
by
T. Buzzard Trueblood
("Hell, I don't want to meet them sons of bitches." Elvis Presley on the Beatles)
To: golch1979
52
posted on
11/15/2004 11:33:32 AM PST
by
golch1979
("Captain Sobel, we solute the rank, not the man.")
To: StJacques
""""Liberals have controlled education for at least the last forty years. This is what you get, institutionalized ignorance.""""
AMEN.
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posted on
11/15/2004 11:33:34 AM PST
by
blakep
To: Tumbleweed_Connection
They don't have a single idea that will move the country forward, so they've got to look back 150 years to a dead issue. And it's dead because of Republicans like Abraham Lincoln, the Congressional Republicans of the 1960's who passed the Civil Rights Act, Ronald Reagan (who made MLK Day a national holiday and signed the Voting Rights Act), Richard Nixon (who instituted affirmative action), and George W. Bush (who has appointed more minorities like Condi Rice, Colin Powell, Alberto Gonzalez, Miguel Estrada, Rod Paige, etc than the Dems ever dreamed of), and you (Tumbleweed and other FReepers) and I, who are friends and coworkers with minorities, who offer the hand of friendship rather than the empty promises of a politician seeking a vote. You and I are the real friends of the minority, not this buffoon./rant
54
posted on
11/15/2004 11:33:43 AM PST
by
WinOne4TheGipper
(Yes DUmmies, we stole the election, but you'll never figure out how. Love, the VRWC.)
To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Randy Newman had the "Free States" pegged way back in the '70s.
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posted on
11/15/2004 11:33:50 AM PST
by
TigersEye
(Free speech! It's not just for Democrats anymore!)
To: vetvetdoug
Oh, now...what does premise and logic have to do with democratic press releases?.....
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posted on
11/15/2004 11:34:34 AM PST
by
Hi Heels
(Proud to be a Pajamarazzi.)
To: SheLion
>"Red states" that supported President Bush also supported slavery"
>>Ahhhh that was WAY before my time.
Eheh, not only that... but the states were, God forbid, Democrat.
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posted on
11/15/2004 11:34:50 AM PST
by
coconutt2000
(NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Looks like Cali is red enough to classify as slavery lovers!!! OUTRAGE!
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posted on
11/15/2004 11:35:40 AM PST
by
smith288
(I have posted over 10,000 times. The more I post, the more intelligent you become!)
To: Tumbleweed_Connection
After "the war" the south was forced to start accepting blacks as equals (note I said start) whereas the north did not have to change at all. Blacks migrated north is search of the jobs that the union industry provided. Fast forward to today with the loss of labor-intensive heavy industry in the NE, is it possible that the black populations in the "blue" states are kept in their place on the govt welfare plantation?
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posted on
11/15/2004 11:35:50 AM PST
by
fr4tad
To: Tumbleweed_Connection
This article is an insult to several states. The famouos Union Iron Brigade included regiments from Indiana who served under General Reynolds and fought gallantly at Antietum and Gettysburg. Indiana volunteers also fought in the Western theater throughout the war. Hoosiers paid their share of blood to free the slaves, and we are not ashamed to share the distinction with our southern brothers and sisters to be a solid red state today supporting President Bush.
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posted on
11/15/2004 11:36:07 AM PST
by
joebuck
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