Skip to comments.Silenced priest warns of gay crisis
Posted on 11/15/2004 11:51:23 AM PST by JZelle
Starting today, 290 of the nation's Catholic bishops will meet at the Capitol Hyatt for their yearly business meeting and to tie up loose ends on the massive sexual-abuse crisis that has shaken the U.S. Catholic Church to its core in the past two years. Although it's been less than a year since the church revealed that there were 10,667 cases of abuse c
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I knew one of those men, who died just last year. He was still feeling his welts from those days. He said he was treated very badly by the Church, assurances having been given previously. He married a nun of his acquaintance, and they remained married even though he had to give up his faculties and she had to leave her order.
Both of them, however, remained observant Catholics, he until his dying day.
Talk to me. What's he trying to do to the BSA?
I'm not Catholic, so take it for what it's worth-but the horror bishops felt about the men who married dwarfed the horror over the child molesters.
I know a priest who anounced his intention to marry in the morning and was out of his house that night-the only place he had to live.
There appeared to be a visceral revulsion about these men (who were doing a very normal thing, albeit breaking a promise) that just did not exist with regard to the molesters.
To me, this bespeaks an imbalance in the appreciation of the human sexual faculty, which undervalues marriage (the epitome of heterosexual natural design) and overvalues disdain for marriage-which may have many roots, but one of which is, obviously, homosexuality.
I think it would have been prudent to allow marriage back then, and I think it would be prudent today.
Just a speculation, but it may be that the gay underground may be a lot bigger and more muscular than we've given it credit for, and it may constitute an authentic cabal against the rest of society in some "close shops".
I don't claim to know all the equities, but the selective indignation of the bishops is suspicious-sounding to me.
Marriage has really worked well for all these Protestants, hasn't it?
many child molesters are married men.
The vast majority were not, just like the Apostles. Suggest you actually do some studying on the subject of the discipline of celibacy and the priesthood; starting with Melchisedech in the Old Testament, then research Canons XXVII and XXXIII of the Council of Elvira 302 AD, the mutual agreement of both spouses to adopt a life of lex continentiae prior to ordination, etc., before stating an opinion, however sincere, that is built upon a foundation of revisionist history, rather than facts.
Figure it out.
Homosexuality is known to thrive in prisons situations where men are deprived of normal heterosexual relationships.
Normal sex drives plus lack of normal sexual relationships tends to result in abnormal sexual behavior.
The Vatican banned the ordination of homosexuals in February of 1961. Long before the BSA got around to even consider implementing a no homo policy. What is needed are obedient bishops who will comply with Romes' directive and the dismissal of those who thumb their noses at the Holy See.
Advancement to religious vows and ordination should be barred to those who are afflicted with evil tendencies to homosexuality or pederasty, since for them the common life and the priestly ministry would constitute serious dangers.
Any idea how many of those "ten thousand or more" who left to get married ended up getting divorced?
Explain all of these Protestants.
Explain all of these Protestants.
I never claimed that all sexual deviancy was the result of forced celibacy.
Yes, actually, because your opinion is focused on a liberal agenda for the Catholic Church. The only people (largely) clamoring for change in the rules of celibacy are non-Catholics, ex-Catholics, Catholics for Free Choice, cafeteria Catholics, and feminist organizations demanding ordination of women to the priesthood.
Episcopalians have married priests but they also have gay bishops and gay and lesbian priests.
a couple years ago, even suggesting that Catholic priests might be molesting boys was a banning offense on FR...
Exactly. Scripturally, Saint Paul recommended that those spreading the Gospel remain unmarried (if they weren't married already) because, as he astutely points out, it's a matter of attention to the flock being divided with attention to the family.
Theologically, the Catholic Church teaches that the priest is married to the "church" itself when ordained. That the flock is his family.
I don't intend to sound harsh with people (sorry, Elizabetty - I really am) who think that deep-sixing celebacy is the answer to the problem, but it's not the answer simply because it's not the problem.
You failed to answer the question that was posed. Also, those seeking ordination freely take vows of celibacy. The discipline is not forced upon anyone. No one has a right to receive the Sacrament of Holy Orders.
Just as pedophilia is the fruit of homosexuality, liberalism in moral theology is the fruit of Darwin and Wellhausen.
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