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Be warned, this could be the matrix (real crazy news!)
THE SIDNEY MORNING HERALD ^ | July 22, 2004

Posted on 11/16/2004 4:34:43 AM PST by red_is_beautiful

The multiverse theory has spawned another - that our universe is a simulation, writes Paul Davies.

If you've ever thought life was actually a dream, take comfort. Some pretty distinguished scientists may agree with you. Philosophers have long questioned whether there is in fact a real world out there, or whether "reality" is just a figment of our imagination.

Then along came the quantum physicists, who unveiled an Alice-in-Wonderland realm of atomic uncertainty, where particles can be waves and solid objects dissolve away into ghostly patterns of quantum energy.

Now cosmologists have got in on the act, suggesting that what we perceive as the universe might in fact be nothing more than a gigantic simulation.

The story behind this bizarre suggestion began with a vexatious question: why is the universe so bio-friendly?

(Excerpt) Read more at smh.com.au ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: matrix; simulation
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http://www.edge.org/documents/archive/edge116.html
1 posted on 11/16/2004 4:34:43 AM PST by red_is_beautiful
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To: red_is_beautiful

Great, just what I needed to think about, Kerry actually did win in a parallel universe.....


2 posted on 11/16/2004 4:36:27 AM PST by Time is now (We'll live to see it......or something like it....)
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To: red_is_beautiful

If you want to read a more adult version of this interesting idea of Life As Video Game, you might try Larry Niven's "All the Myriad Ways" or a great book called "Schroedinger's Cat." Back when college students used to actually read and write, this idea of a self-referential universe was a frequent topic of conversation.


3 posted on 11/16/2004 4:37:45 AM PST by KateatRFM
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To: Time is now
Great, just what I needed to think about, Kerry actually did win in a parallel universe.....

He did. It's called Hollywood.

4 posted on 11/16/2004 4:39:28 AM PST by SquirrelKing ("I have to march because my mother couldn't have an abortion." - Maxine Waters (D-California)
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To: KateatRFM

^^
"in search of Schroedinger's (sp?) cat"

great book!


5 posted on 11/16/2004 4:39:55 AM PST by ruiner
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To: red_is_beautiful

sorry the link doesn't work, you need to register. but you can read more of this crazy stuff also at:

http://www.edge.org/documents/archive/edge116.html


6 posted on 11/16/2004 4:40:20 AM PST by red_is_beautiful
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To: KateatRFM
...the universe might in fact be nothing more than a gigantic simulation.

God help us all if its running on a Windows platform.

7 posted on 11/16/2004 4:40:27 AM PST by ZeitgeistSurfer
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To: red_is_beautiful

I'm guessing that a research scientist just smoked his first joint.


8 posted on 11/16/2004 4:40:40 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: red_is_beautiful
If you've ever thought life was actually a dream, take comfort. Some pretty distinguished scientists may agree with you.

The "pretty distinguished scientists" being referenced, in this particular instance:


9 posted on 11/16/2004 4:41:19 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (I feel more and more like a revolted Charlton Heston, witnessing ape society for the very first time)
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To: red_is_beautiful

Is it just me, or has Paul Davies gone a bit off of the deep end in the last few years. He's a brilliant guy, but well, geez. O_o


10 posted on 11/16/2004 4:41:52 AM PST by Constantine XIII
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To: ClearCase_guy

No no no, a theorist. :D

There's a big difference.


11 posted on 11/16/2004 4:42:26 AM PST by Constantine XIII
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To: ZeitgeistSurfer

LOL!
we wouldn't have come that far!


12 posted on 11/16/2004 4:43:03 AM PST by red_is_beautiful
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To: red_is_beautiful

Hmmmmm...note to self...next time I get caught with another woman tell girlfriend that i am trapped in a simulation and can't help myself.


13 posted on 11/16/2004 4:48:17 AM PST by OwnershipSociety
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To: red_is_beautiful
why is the universe so bio-friendly?

Bio friendly? Sure?
14 posted on 11/16/2004 4:55:00 AM PST by Wiz
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To: ZeitgeistSurfer

Now I understand why our world of SimLife is not error free, at least with some errors called terrorists. I hope we will not be flooded with blue screen of death and reboot the universe.


15 posted on 11/16/2004 4:58:11 AM PST by Wiz
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To: red_is_beautiful

This is just another attempt by Davies to explain reality without God.


16 posted on 11/16/2004 5:02:45 AM PST by Pittsburg Phil
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To: red_is_beautiful

The Hindu religion is millennia ahead of all these theorists. To them the existence of reality IS a dream! The present universe is the dream of their main god, I can't remember his name this early, but when he wakes up, the dream is over and the universe is finished......


17 posted on 11/16/2004 5:04:18 AM PST by Red Badger (Give someone enough EU-ROPE and they will hang themselves......out of pure frustration......)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

What are they doing? Wait, maybe I don't want to know.


18 posted on 11/16/2004 5:06:21 AM PST by Samwise (This day does not belong to one man but to all. --Aragorn)
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To: KateatRFM

thanx for the hint, i'll have a look at it.... i'm no phycicist and only familiar with heisenberg's lectures on quantum theory which i borrowed from my girlfriend (whose father is a physicist)....


19 posted on 11/16/2004 5:08:01 AM PST by red_is_beautiful
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To: ZeitgeistSurfer
"God help us all if its running on a Windows platform."

Maybe that explains the screwed up world and liberals. The Admin of the universe has all the liberals stored on an old NT server with bad hardware. He can't reboot or do anything to fix it because it would cause catastrophic data loss. Now all he can do is watch them get worse by the day, until the big crash comes.

20 posted on 11/16/2004 5:09:19 AM PST by KoRn
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The answer is: 42


21 posted on 11/16/2004 5:14:12 AM PST by KneelBeforeZod (Deus Lo Volt!)
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To: Samwise
"What are they doing? Wait, maybe I don't want to know."

It's called a beer bong. It is a "sink or swim (or perhaps swim or swim) way of drinking beer really, really fast. The user places the end of the tube in his or her mouth, and the assistant pours the beer in the funnel and raises it above the user's head. The beer flows very quickly and it is a very efficient way of getting drunk very quickly. Very. :)

APf
22 posted on 11/16/2004 5:23:27 AM PST by APFel (Humanity has a poor track record of predicting its own future.)
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To: red_is_beautiful

Why, Paul Davies, you don't believe in a creator, do you? *smirk*


23 posted on 11/16/2004 5:40:43 AM PST by dangus
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To: red_is_beautiful

Ok, so how do I learn how to fly,block swords with the edge of my hand, and generally kick @ss?


24 posted on 11/16/2004 5:43:25 AM PST by Brett66 (W1 W1 W1 W1 W1 W1 W1 W1)
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To: red_is_beautiful

"If real is what you can feel, smell, taste and see, then 'real' is simply electrical signals interpreted by your brain."


25 posted on 11/16/2004 5:48:21 AM PST by spodefly (I've posted nothing but BTTT over 1000 times!!!)
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To: red_is_beautiful

It's quite possible that this is all taking place in the mind of God.


26 posted on 11/16/2004 5:49:50 AM PST by Falcon4.0
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To: red_is_beautiful

We are/may all be figments of something's imagination?


27 posted on 11/16/2004 5:50:25 AM PST by Waco
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To: ZeitgeistSurfer
God help us all if its running on a Windows platform.

Indeed. Perhaps 1929, 1941 and 2001 were merely instances of "Improper shutdown detected. Checking discs for errors."

28 posted on 11/16/2004 5:52:44 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (May the wings of Liberty never lose so much as a feather.)
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To: KneelBeforeZod

Thanks for the fish.


29 posted on 11/16/2004 5:55:02 AM PST by Samwise (This day does not belong to one man but to all. --Aragorn)
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To: red_is_beautiful

Umm, I thought the "Who is the dreamer/who is the dream" carpola went out with Carlos Casteneda and fashionable Buddhism. Existence exists. Deal with it.


30 posted on 11/16/2004 5:55:09 AM PST by SlowBoat407 ( Just drive away and remove the piece of paper that is stuck to window later.)
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To: APFel

The things I learn here. :^)

Thanks for the info.


31 posted on 11/16/2004 5:56:23 AM PST by Samwise (This day does not belong to one man but to all. --Aragorn)
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To: Red Badger
I can't remember his name this early,

Vishnu?

32 posted on 11/16/2004 5:59:51 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (May the wings of Liberty never lose so much as a feather.)
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To: red_is_beautiful

Intelligent design?


33 posted on 11/16/2004 6:05:30 AM PST by Sloth ("Rather is TV's real-life Ted Baxter, without Baxter's quiet dignity." -- Ann Coulter)
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To: KneelBeforeZod
The answer is: 42

Now the mice will want to examine your brain to find out what the question is.

34 posted on 11/16/2004 6:12:20 AM PST by KarlInOhio (In a just world, Arafat would have died at the end of a rope.)
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To: red_is_beautiful

Drug problem?


35 posted on 11/16/2004 6:13:54 AM PST by verity (The Liberal Media is America's Enemy)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Oh, not much, what's Vishnu with you.......(heh heh)


36 posted on 11/16/2004 6:40:08 AM PST by Red Badger (Give someone enough EU-ROPE and they will hang themselves......out of pure frustration......)
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To: Red Badger
Yup. Walked right into that one, I did.    =;^)
37 posted on 11/16/2004 6:46:20 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (May the wings of Liberty never lose so much as a feather.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

I couldn't help myself, but that WAS the CORRECT god.......


38 posted on 11/16/2004 6:52:20 AM PST by Red Badger (Give someone enough EU-ROPE and they will hang themselves......out of pure frustration......)
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To: red_is_beautiful

Translation: Academics are smoking way too much pot.


39 posted on 11/16/2004 7:03:07 AM PST by bdeaner
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To: ZeitgeistSurfer
...the universe might in fact be nothing more than a gigantic simulation.

God help us all if its running on a Windows platform.

Lucky for us God uses Unix.

# ssh universe.heaven.org uptime
  9:36am  up 2106762 day(s), 17:37,  1 user,  load average: 0.39, 0.29, 0.18
#

God, root, what's the difference?

40 posted on 11/16/2004 7:42:54 AM PST by zeugma (Come to the Dark Side...... We have cookies!)
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To: zeugma
1 user

Suspect you are in trouble now. LOL.

41 posted on 11/16/2004 7:55:08 AM PST by Joe Miner
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To: red_is_beautiful

42 posted on 11/16/2004 7:57:12 AM PST by theFIRMbss
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To: red_is_beautiful
Row, row row your boat...

43 posted on 11/16/2004 8:05:12 AM PST by evets (God bless president George W. Bush)
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I thought about that, and was going to edit in a huge number, but then thought it would be better to leave it as God being the only one actually "logged in", with everyone and everything else being just daemons and procs. I shudder to think what the output of "ps" would be on universe.heaven.org.

44 posted on 11/16/2004 8:11:05 AM PST by zeugma (Come to the Dark Side...... We have cookies!)
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To: red_is_beautiful

All I know is that the God of OUR Universe majored in the hard sciences at God College - physics and chemistry, specifically. With a minor in biology (hey, it's taken 4 BILLION years to go from single cell non-nucleic life form to apes and humans. Shoot, give me 4 billion years and I could figure that one out). Bio-friendly my fat white a--.


45 posted on 11/16/2004 10:36:39 AM PST by searchandrecovery (No clever ideas in over: 3 days.)
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To: red_is_beautiful

What happens in the Fifth Dimension, stays in the Fifth Dimension.

46 posted on 11/16/2004 10:39:05 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: searchandrecovery; All

YOU PEOPLE MAKE MY HEAD HURT!!!!


47 posted on 11/16/2004 10:41:54 AM PST by acad1228 (Red man from a Red State!!!)
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How Does one get to the fifth dimension?
In a beautiful balloon?
48 posted on 11/16/2004 10:43:30 AM PST by acad1228 (Red man from a Red State!!!)
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To: red_is_beautiful

BTTT!


49 posted on 11/16/2004 11:13:39 AM PST by betty boop
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To: red_is_beautiful
Philosophers have long questioned whether there is in fact a real world out there, or whether "reality" is just a figment of our imagination.

There was a man at the White House testing this very theory just yesterday.

50 posted on 11/16/2004 11:15:52 AM PST by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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