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The "gnutellafication" of the NYT, CBS and MSM < Experts and Gate-keepers Dethroned >
Emerging Church ^ | 11/12/03 | Editors

Posted on 11/16/2004 9:33:18 AM PST by Helms

Postmodernism and the "gnutellafication" of the mainstream media.

what is postmodernism?

well, there are many answers to the question, coming from the vantage points of architecture, philosophy, music, sociology, literature, and theology, so the definitions are multi -phasic and nuanced.

"postmodernity" refers to a cultural stasis or "state of being," while "postmodernism" references cultural currents or streams circulating within the stasis.

in any case, the notion of postmodernity arose out of the matrix of western civilization and its attendent cultural and philosophical foundations, which presuppose the prior "pre-modern" and "modern" dispensations.

the cultural shift from the modern to the postmodern began in the 1960's. (* ) the famed political economist francis fukuyama described the shift from the modern to postmodern era as the great disruption.

anyone born after 1960 is "native" to this era. other generations are naturalized citizens. so, whether native or naturalized, we all are part of the postmodern world.

in a large nutshell, some key characteristics of postmodernity include:

skepticism about or outright rejection of enlightenment assumptions

the rise of globalization & pluralism

the "gnutellafication" of authority and knowledge

the customization and subjectification of truth

in other words, "gone with the wind, meet "the wind done gone." in all fields of endeavor, previously closed canons are being opened up, and new gifts are being added to the mix.

in other words, in the postmodern culture,the roles and functions of all "experts" and "gate-keepers" are being reduced or re-directed.

the customization & subjectification of truth means that culturally supported meta-narratives and broad-cast notions of truth have been defacto de-constructed.

postmodern truths are concepts that are narrow-cast, self-discovered and authoritative only for the person seeking them.

the modern creedal orientation of "we believe, "has been subverted by the postmodern creedal orientation summed up by sheryl crow in her song which proclaims "if it makes you happy, it can't be half bad."


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1 posted on 11/16/2004 9:33:19 AM PST by Helms
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To: Helms

Thanks. Interesting stuff.

Focus on the Family Institute (a college semester for university students from around the nation) has emphasized this for several years now.

The Church worldwide is like a huge ship. It doesn't turn on a dime, like a cigarette boat. But once it starts going, it's hard to stop.

2 posted on 11/16/2004 9:55:28 AM PST by ColoCdn (Truth never dies)
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To: Helms

Meme Warfare BUMP.

What does 'gnutellafication' mean?

3 posted on 11/16/2004 10:14:32 AM PST by WOSG
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What does 'gnutellafication' mean?

Could this be it?

4 posted on 11/16/2004 10:17:49 AM PST by Godzilla ( I don't know what your problem is, but I'll bet it's hard to pronounce.)
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To: Helms
Never forget the relativism: a denying of truth, objectivity, etc. due to their ideological character.

The human knowledge is a social and ideological product, according to postmodernists. Textualism, constructivism and power to knowledge relation would, probably, serve as key principles of postmodernism.

I could way off the mark here - don't have enough knowledge but I'd say all they achieve is opposing ideology to ideology. The fact that they also assume that the current sum of knowledge as an absolute doesn't help either.

5 posted on 11/16/2004 10:32:47 AM PST by aliquis
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To: Godzilla
It could also have something to do with a Gnutella music site (peer-to-peer, no servers?)
6 posted on 11/16/2004 10:34:51 AM PST by aliquis
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To: aliquis
Err... sorry
I could way off the mark here - don't have enough knowledge but I'd say all they achieve is opposing ideology to ideology. The fact that they also assume that the current sum of knowledge as an absolute doesn't help either.

I could be way off the mark here - don't have enough knowledge but I'd say all they achieve is opposing ideology to ideology. The fact that they also assume that the current sum of knowledge as is an absolute doesn't help either.

7 posted on 11/16/2004 10:40:19 AM PST by aliquis
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To: Godzilla
Well, as for the first part:

GNU's not Unix
 GNU's not Unix
  GNU's not Unix
   GNU's not Unix
    GNU's not Unix

8 posted on 11/16/2004 11:51:45 AM PST by Lexinom (ANYBODY BUT ARLEN)
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From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

Gnutella (pronounced with a silent "g") is a distributed software project to create a true peer-to-peer file sharing network, without a central server.



The first client was developed by Justin Frankel and Tom Pepper of Nullsoft, a division of AOL, in early 2000. On March 14, the program was made available for download on Nullsoft's servers. The event was prematurely announced on Slashdot, and thousands downloaded the program that day. The source code was to be released later, supposedly under the GNU General Public License (GPL).

The next day, AOL stopped the availability of the program over legal concerns and restrained Nullsoft from doing any further work on the project. This did not stop Gnutella; after a few days the protocol had been reverse engineered, and compatible open source clones started showing up. This parallel development of different clients by different groups remains the modus operandi of Gnutella development today.

The Gnutella network would be a fully distributed alternative to semi-centralized systems like FastTrack (KaZaA) or centralized systems like Napster. Initial popularity of the network was spurred on by Napster's threatened legal demise in early 2001. This growing surge in popularity revealed the limits of the initial protocol's scalabilty. In early 2001, variations of the protocol (implemented first in closed source clients) allowed scalabilty to improve somewhat. Instead of treating every user as client and server, some users were now treated as "ultrapeers", routing search requests and responses for users connected to them.

This allowed the network to grow in popularity. In late 2001, the Gnutella client LimeWire, which had driven much of the protocol's development, was released as open source. In February, 2002, Morpheus, a commercial file sharing group, abandoned its FastTrack-based peer-to-peer software and released a new client based on the open source Gnutella client Gnucleus.

Sometimes the word "Gnutella" refers not to a particular project or particular piece of software, but to the open protocol used by various clients. Since new clients are under development in various locations, and since a new protocol is apparently on the way too, it is hard to say what the word 'Gnutella' will mostly stand for in the future.

The name is a word play on GNU and Nutella. Supposedly, Frankel and Pepper ate a lot of nutella working on the original project, and they were going to use the GNU GPL license on the finished program. Gnutella is not associated with the GNU project; see GNUnet for the GNU project's equivalent.

How it works

To envision how Gnutella works, imagine a large circle of users (called nodes), who each have Gnutella client software. The client software on the initial use must bootstrap and find at least one of those other nodes. Different methods have been used for this, including a pre-existing list of possibly working node addresses shipped with the software, using Gwebcache sites on the web to find nodes, as well as using IRC to find nodes. Chances are at least one node (call it B) will work. Once it has connected, node B will send node A its own list of working nodes. Node A will try to connect to the nodes it was shipped with, as well as nodes it receives from other nodes, until it reaches a certain quota, usually user-specifiable. It will only connect to that many nodes, but it keeps the nodes it has not yet tried. (it discards ones that it tries but did not work.)

Now, when user A wants to do a search, it sends the request to each node it is actively connected to. It is possible that some of them will no longer work, in which case user A tries to connect to the nodes it has saved as backups. The number of actively connected nodes for user A is usually quite small (around 5), so each node then forwards the request to all the nodes it is connected to, and they in turn forward the request, and so on. In theory, the request will eventually find its way to every user on the Gnutella network.

If a search request turns up a result, the node that had the result contacts the searcher (whose IP address was included with the search request) directly. They negotiate the file transfer and the transfer proceeds. If more than one copy of the same file is found, the searcher can perform a "swarm" download - download pieces of the file from different nodes. This results in increased download rates.

Finally, when user A disconnects, the client software saves the list of nodes that it was actively connected to, and that it was keeping as a backup, for use next time it connects.

In practice, searching on the Gnutella network is often slow and unreliable. Each node is a regular computer user; as such, they are constantly connecting and disconnecting, so the network is never completely stable. Since individual users' connections are likely to be slow, it can take a very long time for a search request to traverse the entire network (which averages around 100,000 nodes at any time).

The real benefit of having Gnutella so decentralized is to make it very difficult to shut the network down. Unlike Napster, where the entire network relied on the central server, Gnutella cannot be shut down by shutting down any one node. As long as there are at least two users, Gnutella will continue to exist.

Protocol features and extensions

Gnutella operates on a query flooding protocol. The outdated Gnutella version 0.4 network protocol employs five different packet types, namely

  • ping: discover hosts on network
  • pong: reply to ping
  • query: search for a file
  • query hit: reply to query
  • push: download request (for firewalled servents)

These are mainly concerned with searching the Gnutella network. File transfers are handled using HTTP.

The development of the Gnutella protocol is currently led by the GDF (Gnutella Developer Forum). Many protocol extensions have been and are being developed by the software vendors and free Gnutella developers of the GDF. These extensions include intelligent query routing, SHA-1 checksums, query hit transmission via UDP, querying via UDP, dynamic queries via TCP, file transfers via UDP, XML meta data, source exchange a.k.a "the download mesh" and parallel downloading in slices (swarming).

There are efforts to finalize these protocol extensions in the Gnutella 0.6 specification at the Gnutella protocol development website. The Gnutella 0.4 standard, although being still the latest protocol specification since all extensions only exist as proposals so far, is outdated. In fact, it is hard to impossible to connect today with the 0.4 handshake.

The Gnutella protocol remains under development and in spite of attempts to make a clean break with the complexity inherited from the old Gnutella 0.4 and to design a clean new message architecture (see Gnutella2), it is still the most successful, openly developed file-sharing protocol to date.


Some popular Gnutella clients are

See also

9 posted on 11/16/2004 11:52:41 AM PST by Helms
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To: Godzilla


10 posted on 11/16/2004 11:58:28 AM PST by evets (God bless president George W. Bush)
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To: evets

Bit torrent technology is even better, imho, though I understand it is focused on the very large files.

11 posted on 11/16/2004 6:08:13 PM PST by Petronski (Okay, so today I *am* cranky.)
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To: Helms; ELS; Liz; NYer; Aquinasfan; narses; thor76; Land of the Irish; AAABEST; ninenot; ...

The term "postmodern" was hijacked by cabals of kooky Marxists when they noticed conservative and Christian thinkers using it to signify the collapse the ideologies of progress, the Enlightenment, the goofy secular humanism of modernity, and the shallow liberalism dominating the cultural elite. The End of the Modern World was the title of a book written by a conservative Catholic writer, Romano Guardini, in the 1940s.

What has come to be known as "postmodernism" is just a very bizarre, convaluted style of repackaging epistemological skepticism and moral relativism. The dissembling nihilism of this movement does very little to advance genuine knowledge. The flagrant omission of acknowledging the earlier conservative and Christian uses of the term "postmodern" suggest dishonesty or scholarly illiteracy.

Hence, the distortive use of the term "postmodernism" is worthy of one of our Twilight Zone awards for excessive left-wing kookiness.

12 posted on 11/17/2004 1:32:45 PM PST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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Moral Relativist Shock Troops----the usual suspects including: abortion-worshipping Feminazis, the fully fornicating Playboy-Cosmo faction, secular humanists
who despise Christians, the ACLU-Christian baiters, Planned Parenthood and the population control cabal, the anti-family idealogues, aided and abetted by (1) a compliant liberal media,(2) academia which inculcates the Nation's youth with the idealogy, and, last, but not least (3) Hollywarped---stealth Christian-haters---who proselytize audiences without their knowledge or consent.

13 posted on 11/17/2004 2:37:52 PM PST by Liz (The man who establishes the reputation of rising at dawn, can sleep til noon.)
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To: Helms

I think these guys wrote an article to show off the new word they came up with. :P

14 posted on 11/17/2004 2:39:38 PM PST by Constantine XIII
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To: Timesink; martin_fierro; reformed_democrat; Loyalist; =Intervention=; PianoMan; GOPJ; ...
Media Schadenfreude and Media Shenanigans PING
15 posted on 11/17/2004 9:25:25 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: Helms; weegee; Jim Robinson; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Shermy; PhilDragoo; EdReform; SierraWasp; ...

-- the "gnutellafication" of authority and knowledge. On the Internet the music swapping system Gnutella not only cut out the music industry middlemen (a la Napster) but also cut out all "central servers." in other words, in the postmodern culture,the roles and functions of all "experts" and "gate-keepers" are being reduced or re-directed."

Post WWII, the gate keepers of knowledge and protocol of an organization controlled that organization and organizations across America and around the world.

When computers came on the scene, they grabbed control of the process and protocols. The same gate keepers expanded their span of control to over see data processing. So even with the new technology, they still controlled the information flows up and down and the protocols to using it.

In the late 1980's and early 1990's pcs became available to people outside this chain of command and protocol. Salesmen and front line managers in corporations bought their own PCs and went on the internet to communicate and exchange data and knowledge. Pastors, ministers and Priests did the same at the local level. This was replicated across America with the exception of the Not News industries posing as News Industries.

By the end of the 1990's the gate keepers of knowledge and protocol were losing control across our nation.

Jim Robinson and others entered into this derailment of central control of news and protocols of dispensing/controlling news. In the late 1990's and early 2000 years.

During the 2000 election the conservative internet sites led by Free Republic had begun the process of taking the control of news release and shaping of news from the MSM.

Free Republic was one of the front line warriors in preventing the attempted coup of the Floriduh election by the MSM and the Gorons.

Later we defeated the Enviral Whackos who wanted to rurally cleanse thousands of ranchers and farmers in the Klamath Basin to protect a bottom sucking/stinking fish. That was the first major defeat of the enviral nazis in America.

We have seen the ability and power of Free Republic re "gnutellafication" of the MSM reach new levels this year and in the election.

We were instrumental in helping the Swift Vets hitting the road and gaining financial clout to help defeat Kerry. The Swift Vets were the poster guys of "gnutellafication" Komrade Kerry's Kamp, the DNC and the left wing attacks on GW and on the Swift Vets.

Free Republic ripped the guts out of the lies that CBS was pushing after a Freeper identified how CBS committed document fraud. Conservative blog sites jumped on that "gnutellafication" of CBS and helped to make fools of them.

Free Republic helped to destroy the October Surprise from the NY Slimes and CBS.

"gnutellafication" of the MSM is good for America, republicans and for the side of truth. The good freepers are part of that "gnutellafication" process. The brown shirted trolls try to derail us 24/7, as they and their masters know the liberals to succeed must control the release and spin of news to suit their agendas. We are not allowing that to happen.

16 posted on 11/17/2004 10:24:33 PM PST by Grampa Dave (FNC/ABCNNBCBS & the MSM fishwraps are the Rathering Fraudcasters of America!)
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To: Grampa Dave
"Pravda" doesn't like the public to know that their "truth" is all lies. Goebbels would have been proud to have a non-nationalized media so singular in focus at pushing party rhetoric and disseminating fabricated smears on the opposition.
17 posted on 11/17/2004 10:32:19 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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As we make fools of the MSM and reduce its effectiveness, this will mean even larger defeats for the rats in 2006 and into the future.

18 posted on 11/17/2004 10:41:25 PM PST by Grampa Dave (FNC/ABCNNBCBS & the MSM fishwraps are the Rathering Fraudcasters of America!)
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To: Grampa Dave; Fedora; dk/coro; Cincinatus' Wife; Travis McGee; ExSoldier; ALOHA RONNIE; ...

Grampa Dave has some very interesting comments at the post above about the "gnutellafication" of authority and knowledge created by Internet applications such as Web and E-mail. He argues that just like the FAX machines and photocopiers behind the Iron Curtain, the Web and sites like FR have made it much harder for the apparatchiks and arabists to manipulate our media without constraint.

Just when we thought Democracy was doomed, our Republic was saved by an innovation created by the DARPA. Did y'all know that TCP/IP was invented to help defense sites communicate with each other during nuclear warfare? The Dems went nuclear and we managed to outwit them anyway. Once again, Defense Department R&D saved the day.

19 posted on 11/17/2004 10:46:16 PM PST by risk
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I agree. Of course by the same token the Internet has also made it easier to distribute enemy propaganda, which we must be vigilant against just as we are against the traditional media.

20 posted on 11/17/2004 10:59:48 PM PST by Fedora
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