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Can the Pentagon charge Kevin Sites?

Posted on 11/16/2004 1:07:33 PM PST by nothernlights

Was not the reporter under the duty to hand over this tape to military authorities,under the rules of imbeds? If that's the case then strong measures should be taken against Sites. Also has Sites been removed from that Marine unit,because at this point i"m sure his presence is a distraction to the Marines and therefore endangers their lives. Sites has to be removed from that unit at the very least.


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1 posted on 11/16/2004 1:07:33 PM PST by nothernlights
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To: nothernlights

more along the lines that Mr. Sites life is in danger being around the Marines... I think the pentagon should revoke his embed privilages for his own safety.


2 posted on 11/16/2004 1:08:39 PM PST by Americanwolf (When you drinking a beer tonight, have another one for the Soldiers fighting in Iraq they earned it!)
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To: nothernlights

I sincerely hope... But I'd rather the Marines dish out the justice.


3 posted on 11/16/2004 1:08:42 PM PST by faithincowboys
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To: nothernlights

Turn Sites over to the terrorist.


4 posted on 11/16/2004 1:08:45 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Make everyday Veterans Day.)
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To: nothernlights

That tape should have gone to DOD for vetting first!!


5 posted on 11/16/2004 1:08:51 PM PST by Mikey_1962
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To: nothernlights

The real question seems to be whether the tape has been edited for broadcast in a way that changes its interpretation.


6 posted on 11/16/2004 1:09:34 PM PST by js1138 (D*mn, I Missed!)
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To: Americanwolf

Fragamundo.


7 posted on 11/16/2004 1:09:36 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter
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To: nothernlights

I hope so.

The MSM's treatment of this war as just another "reality show" is dangerous for our troops.


8 posted on 11/16/2004 1:10:52 PM PST by milford421
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To: gov_bean_ counter

No need for anything overt. Unfortunate things happen in combat zones, and if the reporter fails to hear someone yell "Sniper!!", well, c'est la guerre.


9 posted on 11/16/2004 1:11:50 PM PST by Charles Martel ("Diplomats. The best diplomat I know of is a fully loaded phaser bank" - Cdr. Montgomery Scott)
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To: Mikey_1962

But really would the military remove Sites, or do we have to worry that he's still there with them?


10 posted on 11/16/2004 1:13:42 PM PST by nothernlights
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Could be rabbit, could be...! :)


11 posted on 11/16/2004 1:14:59 PM PST by Americanwolf (When you drinking a beer tonight, have another one for the Soldiers fighting in Iraq they earned it!)
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To: Americanwolf

Yes, I think that's the way to go. He has abused his privilege of being embedded with the Marines. I think he's slimy, but we really, really don't want to suppress the press. Remember, Hillary or her ilk could get slither back into the WH and I want intense press scrutiny on every aspect of that administration.


12 posted on 11/16/2004 1:20:38 PM PST by twigs
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To: twigs

exactly, Hillary's administration (it won't happen, but IF...for the sake of argument) would make Johnson's and Harding's look like saintly times...

Korrupt Klintoon Kommie Kriminal she is (learning FR speak, taking a crash course for newbies :-)


13 posted on 11/16/2004 1:24:37 PM PST by William of Orange (Netherlands, undefeated in wars against France)
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To: nothernlights

That he is there for anti-US propaganda, and not to report the news is raTHer obvious. To protect our service men, he should be pulled from embedded work.


14 posted on 11/16/2004 1:26:20 PM PST by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON)
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To: nothernlights

The US attorney general may be able to charge him with sedition.


15 posted on 11/16/2004 1:35:23 PM PST by demlosers
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To: demlosers

Should we encourage that?


16 posted on 11/16/2004 1:38:06 PM PST by nothernlights
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To: nothernlights

Kevin Sites.

Remember that name.


17 posted on 11/16/2004 1:43:08 PM PST by Redbob
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To: nothernlights
He will be responsible for the death of many Marines if he is successful in his campaign to
tar and feather this young Marine ...morale will be affected

But then that is what the Marxists agitation propagandists are after...always have been
always will be...

This is one scumbag "reporter"...enjoys the protection of the Marines..ignores the evil of the terrorists...then turns on his protectors...simply because he can...

Uses his protectors to advance his career...

A born again John F Kerry if I ever did see one....to a tee

imo
18 posted on 11/16/2004 1:52:36 PM PST by joesnuffy ("The merit of our Constitution was, not that it promotes democracy, but checks it." Horatio Seymour)
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To: Americanwolf

more along the lines that Mr. Sites life is in danger being around the Marines

I would certainly hope so.

The sorry bastard would have been jumping with joy if the murdering sob had managed to kill some Marines.

Our troops are not apes or baboons escaped from some zoo as the American hating socialists [members og the media and democrats] want us to believe.

They are brothers, sisters, husbands, wives, sons, daughters,fathers, mothers, aunts, uncles, nieces, nephews, and grand children. Each one has a face and name.

In fact, this young Marine could have been the son of some of the members of this forum.

At this point in time he is probably going through a personal hell which I believe is unnecessary.Because he did not do anything anyone on this forum would not have done under the circumstances. He took the action he felt necessary to protect his life.

He not only needs, he deserves our support and help.

Every embedded reporter needs to be withdrawn immediately is the most delicate way I can say it.




19 posted on 11/16/2004 1:53:38 PM PST by sport
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To: faithincowboys
Also has Sites been removed from that Marine unit,
Now THAT'S unfair. Someone should've deserted him right before sunset in Fallujah, or some such treatment.

"Kevin, LOOK! In that bullet-ridden mosque across the street, 20 marines are torturing and humiliating an unarmed, wounded, helpless, armless, legless Iraqi prisoner! You should go inside and film it... we're just gonna wait here in our armored humvee while you get the scoop, ok?"

20 posted on 11/16/2004 1:55:35 PM PST by AbercrombieChick (The last time Democrats wanted to secede, it was because they wanted the right to own black people.)
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To: AbercrombieChick

I wish. This guy Sites shouldn't walk away from this unscathed. Red America wants justice.


21 posted on 11/16/2004 1:57:26 PM PST by faithincowboys
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To: nothernlights
I'm all for it... but I doubt the president would go for it because of the political costs would be too high.

During WW2, The Chicago Tribune told the world that the US had broke the Japanese Naval code in the aftermath of the Midway battle. IMHO, the biggest factor why we defeated the Japanese at Midway and other battles.

FDR was furious. He wanted the Chicago Tribune editors and reporters jailed for treason. He ordered the US Attorney General to arrest them. But at the time, the Allies were about to break the Nazi cypher machine code (Enigma). FDR was advised not to pursue prosecuting the Chicago Tribune because the publicity of a trail may cause the Nazis to change their codes. So FDR dropped the matter.

22 posted on 11/16/2004 1:58:25 PM PST by demlosers
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To: demlosers

Ther is no such tactical consideration here. THe question is did he or did he not break the imbed rule?


23 posted on 11/16/2004 2:00:34 PM PST by nothernlights
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To: nothernlights

I wrote Mr. S.......suggested he best hope he never needs one of our heroes to watch his back.


24 posted on 11/16/2004 2:01:10 PM PST by OldFriend (PRAY FOR POWERS EQUAL TO THE TASKS)
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To: Americanwolf

Should we revoke his Pismo Beach residence, too?


25 posted on 11/16/2004 2:02:21 PM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: demlosers

Your story shows that FDR dropped it because of practical wartime reasons not political considerations. If the government won't police the press there will come a day when the people will.


26 posted on 11/16/2004 2:02:58 PM PST by TigersEye ("protecting baby - good. killing baby - bad.")
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To: nothernlights
In either case, I would get rid of Kevin Sites as an inbed.
27 posted on 11/16/2004 2:05:11 PM PST by demlosers
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To: demlosers
The US attorney general may be able to charge him with sedition.

Any AG who tried that would have his walking papers handed to him by the President.

28 posted on 11/16/2004 2:06:46 PM PST by Modernman (Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. --Benjamin Franklin)
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To: TigersEye

Let Kevin know how you feel.

kevin@kevinsites.com


29 posted on 11/16/2004 2:07:16 PM PST by Beckwith (John Kerry is now a kept man . . .)
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To: TigersEye
If the government won't police the press there will come a day when the people will.

The people can do that now: Don't buy newspapers you don't like and don't watch news shows you don't like.

Or are you proposing some sort of mob justice?

30 posted on 11/16/2004 2:09:06 PM PST by Modernman (Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. --Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Modernman

The AG would not do it without presidential approval.


31 posted on 11/16/2004 2:09:26 PM PST by demlosers
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To: nothernlights

I hope the Marines advance and leave Sites behind...alone in Fallujah with his terrorist buddies.


32 posted on 11/16/2004 2:10:32 PM PST by BushisTheMan
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To: demlosers
The AG would not do it without presidential approval.

And unless the President is as dumb as the Dems claim he is, there is no way in the world he would tell the AG to charge a reporter with sedition.

33 posted on 11/16/2004 2:10:57 PM PST by Modernman (Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. --Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Modernman

But this may be good case against the press to censor them by limiting their access to the battle field.


34 posted on 11/16/2004 2:15:27 PM PST by demlosers
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To: Americanwolf

It better charge Sites, that treasonous bastard!


35 posted on 11/16/2004 2:17:30 PM PST by mowkeka
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To: Modernman
Or are you proposing some sort of mob justice?

No, I'm predicting it.

36 posted on 11/16/2004 2:22:42 PM PST by TigersEye ("protecting baby - good. killing baby - bad.")
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To: nothernlights

NBC providing our enemies with a very useful propaganda tool. Al Jazeera should send them flowers. We know how scarce "truth" is in the Arab world.


37 posted on 11/16/2004 2:44:58 PM PST by Mister Baredog ((DO IT NOW, if you haven't put up a flag on your FR homepage yet,PLEASE))
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To: nothernlights

This morning during Imus, Sites read a prepared statement saying, "Throughout this offensive I have seen the military act as a discipline and professional force... it was a confusing situation... Only the soldier knows his intent.."
Sites looked very nervous...


Greg Palcott (sp) of Fox said of the video:

"I have seen our troops operating under the most difficult conditions imaginable. The life and death of war. I have seen our soldiers treat civilians and detainees with care. I have seen them treat the places of worship with as much care as possible. My opinion, and it is an informed opinion, is that this was an isolated incident"


38 posted on 11/16/2004 2:49:56 PM PST by PajamaTruthMafia
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To: nothernlights

I think he has aided and abetted the enemy.

He should be charged as a traitor -- the government should make an example of him. This has GOT to STOP!

Can you imagine if anti-Americans were allowed to travel with U.S. troops and report anti-American sentiments directly to the world during WWII?


39 posted on 11/16/2004 2:59:35 PM PST by i_dont_chat
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To: Americanwolf
more along the lines that Mr. Sites life is in danger being around the Marines... I think the pentagon should revoke his embed privilages for his own safety.

So you're endorsing the idea that the Marines need to retaliate against this guy?

If the deed was righteous, then what's the basis for retaliation?

40 posted on 11/16/2004 3:03:34 PM PST by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: mowkeka
It better charge Sites, that treasonous bastard!

Please explain, in detail, why this conduct is treasonous.

41 posted on 11/16/2004 3:04:08 PM PST by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: Poohbah
No I am not advocating that the Marines retaliate against him I am just looking at it realistically... If you have a bunch of pissed off Marines that think a buddy has been slighted they may decide to take out vigilante justice... It is not something I would personally condone but to be realistic about it it could happen.

I personally think the Marine was rightous in what he did. His fellow Marines may see it that way too, but they may also think that this guy is a Media hack from the MSM that is trying to paint The Marines in a bad light in Iraq.. There are thousand of Great Soldiers in Iraq doing their job, but it only takes on that thinks he is being slighted to make a stupid mistake and harm Mr. Sites and for his own safety I think the pentagon need to remove him... Is that clear enough of an explanation?

42 posted on 11/16/2004 3:11:55 PM PST by Americanwolf (When you drinking a beer tonight, have another one for the Soldiers fighting in Iraq they earned it!)
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To: Americanwolf
No I am not advocating that the Marines retaliate against him I am just looking at it realistically... If you have a bunch of pissed off Marines that think a buddy has been slighted they may decide to take out vigilante justice... It is not something I would personally condone but to be realistic about it it could happen.

Marines are used to dealing with--and living with--people they dislike.

Retaliation is a sign of guilt.

43 posted on 11/16/2004 3:13:07 PM PST by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: nothernlights

Michael Savage is on fire over this issue.

Saying on his radio program that Sites should be indicted and charged with treason.

http://www.ksky.com (in case anyone wants to tune in)


44 posted on 11/16/2004 3:19:23 PM PST by texasbluebell
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To: Poohbah

Once again I am not condoning retaliation, but know that it only takes one loose cannon, it is a sitation that if the pentagon can avoid it they should...

Please understand I realize that Most all Marines are very well trained... I have worked with thousands of them... I know that they are trained to deal with crap most normal American cannot concieve and the do it very well and with out complaint or animosity, but in heated situation or One person that snaps it could create a problem that could have been avoided...

Whether you consider retalition as a sign of guilt or not, not everyone thinks in that same vain of thought. I am not saying it is going to happen, but that it is a possibility.. If you cannot accept that, that is what I am saying then I am sorry, but I cannot make it anymore clear that I don't condone that action, but I am realistic to the fact that it could happen. This is war and terrible things happen even from those that we would not expect it from.


45 posted on 11/16/2004 3:22:36 PM PST by Americanwolf (When you drinking a beer tonight, have another one for the Soldiers fighting in Iraq they earned it!)
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To: texasbluebell
Saying on his radio program that Sites should be indicted and charged with treason.

Good thing Savage isn't an attorney--he'd set a record for sanctions against him.

46 posted on 11/16/2004 3:22:57 PM PST by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: Americanwolf
Whether you consider retalition as a sign of guilt or not, not everyone thinks in that same vain of thought.

What's interesting is that so many FReepers WANT retaliation. They WANT the Marines to simply shoot Sites.

If this is a righteous event captured on video, what's the cause for shooting Sites? Why do so many FReepers want to kill him?

The more I hear from FReepers on this, the more I'm wondering if this event was, in fact, righteous.

47 posted on 11/16/2004 3:26:05 PM PST by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: Poohbah
"The more I hear from FReepers on this, the more I'm wondering if this event was, in fact, righteous."

I can't believe you said that!

You owe that Marine an apology. He was shot in the face the day before this video was recorded and was back on duty to protect your sorry a$$.

I'll let the FReepers speak for themselves.

48 posted on 11/16/2004 3:32:37 PM PST by LADY J
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"The more I hear from FReepers on this, the more I'm wondering if this event was, in fact, righteous."

I can't believe you said that!

Why not?

The mob on Free Republic braying for the death of the reporter is rather unnerving.

If the deed was righteous, then showing it on TV is a non-issue.

The fact that many folks are angry about the tape ever seeing the light of day makes me wonder if they really think the deed was righteous. If they don't think it was righteous, why should I?

You owe that Marine an apology.

No, I don't. That Marine--like me, a long time ago--is going to have some hard questions asked of him.

I'll let the FReepers speak for themselves.

They already are--that's what's bothering me.

49 posted on 11/16/2004 3:37:39 PM PST by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: Poohbah; Darksheare; Old Sarge

You know what... I have been gracious with you up to this point, but now you have taken it a step to far... you act like a true liberal... pick and choose the part of the statments you want to attack and question then spout your own rhetoric...

let me ask you this if you are so set in your opinons... Have you ever been in combat? Have you served in the military? Do you know what it is like to walk into a building and not know what is around the corner.

You can see to get it through you skull that people will have their own opinions on this, just like you do. Regardless of the facts... you have come here disagreed or ignored what i have said and then make a back handed comment about weather this was rightous or not and then condemn you fellow freepers for their opinions. Here is some helpful advice before you condemn anyone else actions walk a mile in there shoes. If you cannot understand where the come from you have no basis to judge them on. Your right to make the asine comment that you did is protected by that same Marine... Mr Sites rights as an American are protected by that same Marine.

I don't know what you issue is, but your opinion on this along with the rest of the people here will not in one way or the other sway how the pentagon views this... If you don't like the opinions of your fellow citizen do one of two things that are fully with in you rights... ignore them and move on... or just move on...


50 posted on 11/16/2004 3:44:19 PM PST by Americanwolf (Freedom... Protected by the brave so the meek and lazy don't have to get off the sofa.)
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