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Abercrombie and Fitch Settles $40 Million Discrimination Suit
WXXA-TV Albany ^ | November 16, 2004

Posted on 11/16/2004 5:23:51 PM PST by ConservativeStatement

Civil rights attorneys today announced the settlement of a class action lawsuit, Gonzalez v. Abercrombie & Fitch, requiring the retail clothing giant to pay $40 million dollars to Latino, African American, Asian American and women applicants and employees who charged the company with discrimination. The settlement, approved this morning by U.S. District Court Judge Susan Illston, also requires the company to institute a range of policies and programs to promote diversity among its workforce and to prevent discrimination based on race or gender.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abercrombie; af; discrimination; fitch; lawsuit

1 posted on 11/16/2004 5:23:51 PM PST by ConservativeStatement
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

A pox on both their houses.


2 posted on 11/16/2004 5:27:12 PM PST by Max Combined (Clinton is "the notorious Oval Office onanist ")
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

Nice to see the lefties get a little of their own medicine.


3 posted on 11/16/2004 5:27:37 PM PST by ConservativeWarrior
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

Whites, males hardest hit.


4 posted on 11/16/2004 5:27:42 PM PST by TenaciousZ
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

,,, PETA has managed to use A&F as a doormat recently. What a joke.


5 posted on 11/16/2004 5:29:26 PM PST by shaggy eel
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan
"I felt demoralized being the only African American employee and being specifically assigned to dust the store, wash the windows and clean the floors. With this settlement, I now know that Abercrombie cannot treat other employees of color in such a manner."

Doubtful victim here. Perhaps in her own mind she is a victim. I don't believe dusting, mopping and cleaning windows to be degrading if it's honest work for honest pay. Someone's got to do it. Give me a break.
6 posted on 11/16/2004 5:30:19 PM PST by lmr (John Kerry, Favorite of World Leaders: Castro, Arafat, Kim Jong IL,Chavez and Bin Laden)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

So if a "Diversity Specialists" comes to your door, don't let them in, but do see them safely off the property, making sure they don't trip.
How proud they must be!


7 posted on 11/16/2004 5:30:43 PM PST by kcar (theUNsucks.com)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

abercrombie and fitch is retarded. They used to have nice clothes but now they look like clothes worn by hookers after getting in a 3 hour street fight with each other (short short tatty skirts, et al.)


8 posted on 11/16/2004 5:31:18 PM PST by modest proposal
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To: TenaciousZ

"Whites, males hardest hit."

Not at all. White males are now forming lines to apply for jobs as Hooters wai.. hoste... Umm.... anyway, in San Francisco.


9 posted on 11/16/2004 5:34:50 PM PST by Tarpaulin (Look it up.)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

This suit is not good news no matter who it happens too. This is another racial shakedown. The next company could be yours or the one you work for. A victory like this will only embolden the Jessie Jackson types.


11 posted on 11/16/2004 5:36:38 PM PST by WhatHappenedtoAmerica
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To: WhatHappenedtoAmerica

That was my immediate thought when I saw it mentioned at the bottom of the Fox scroll earlier this evening.


12 posted on 11/16/2004 5:38:17 PM PST by ConservativeStatement
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

As much as I despise Abercrombie and Fitch, if they want to aim their sales model at white suburbanite preppies and yuppies who buy their overpriced crap, it's their business. I don't see anybody suing FUBU for catering its equally ugly and equally overpriced crap to inner city blacks, so why not Abercrombie?


13 posted on 11/16/2004 5:41:15 PM PST by GOPcapitalist ("Marxism finds it easy to ally with Islamic zealotism" - Ludwig von Mises)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

$40 million dollars to (non-) victim whiners, and I have to go to work tomorrow like a normal person. What crap.


14 posted on 11/16/2004 5:41:18 PM PST by SteveMcKing
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

sickening


15 posted on 11/16/2004 5:41:43 PM PST by Jack Wilson
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To: SteveMcKing

Liberalism, the ACLU, etc -- true enemies.


16 posted on 11/16/2004 5:44:28 PM PST by ConservativeStatement
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

Please: buy Wrangler.


17 posted on 11/16/2004 5:50:15 PM PST by Nick Thimmesch
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

If they had only paid Jesse Jackson a small 'consulting' fee this never would have happened.


18 posted on 11/16/2004 5:51:25 PM PST by opinionator
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan
The consent decree calls for Abercrombie & Fitch to hire a vice president of diversity
SWEET!!! maybe they'll hire me for this cooshy job... 'less of course I'm "over-represented" in which case it is OK and good to discriminate against me because of my race - heck, nevermind... I'm just gonna sue FUBU over the lack of mullet representation in their advertising
19 posted on 11/16/2004 6:08:08 PM PST by TheUglyAmerican
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To: TheUglyAmerican
The consent decree calls for Abercrombie & Fitch to hire a vice president of diversity

White males need not apply, I'm sure.

20 posted on 11/16/2004 6:34:26 PM PST by FoxInSocks
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To: WhatHappenedtoAmerica

Absolutely. A&F should just roll it up and let these crybabies suck wind. Highly unlikely, but still, these pansy-a$$es get away with this crap so much, it's sickening.

Let THEM explain why they all lost their jobs.


21 posted on 11/16/2004 6:34:28 PM PST by Smacky
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To: WhatHappenedtoAmerica

precisely...it's quotas by judicial fiat and can happen to anyone.


22 posted on 11/16/2004 10:06:35 PM PST by wardaddy
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To: modest proposal
They used to have nice clothes..

They used to be an outdoor, sporting, hunting, expedition outfitting company. They are a joke now and I hope the left strips them down to the carcass actually.

23 posted on 11/16/2004 10:11:30 PM PST by daguberment (The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish....)
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To: lmr
lmr wrote:
Doubtful victim here. Perhaps in her own mind she is a victim. I don't believe dusting, mopping and cleaning windows to be degrading if it's honest work for honest pay. Someone's got to do it. Give me a break.

In her own mind she's a victim?!?!

When an organization makes specific moves to relegate people of color to certain positions and whites to others, that's racism, plain and simple. She may be making honest pay for doing honest work, but that doesn't change the fact that she's being put in the position of servant while whites are free from such duties. Somebody's gotta do it, yes, but why aren't those duties distributed fairly amongst all emplyees?

Having known people who've worked at A&F I've long been aware of the particular image they try to create. And while that's fine in the case of hair, makeup, piercings and other forms of personal expression, once you begin making decisions about your "image" on the basis of skin color there's no talking you way out of it. It's racism, end of story.

Maybe it doesn't bother you because you share A&F's POV, but if there's ever to be any real progress, this kind of nonsense has to stop.

24 posted on 11/17/2004 10:20:43 AM PST by wogawoga (Freedom First!)
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To: wogawoga

I did maintenance at McDonald's when I was teenager, that meant cleaning sh*t up, literally. No racism involved, just that someone has to do it. I am in the trash business, do you know how many minorities are trash men? Is it racism, hell no. They are proud of what they do and they make good money. If someone is "too good" to do something and considers it "humilating" and "racist" then that is their problem. I am a sure Abercrombie and Fitch has hundreds of whites doing these same things in many of their locations. Give me a break.


25 posted on 11/17/2004 4:20:50 PM PST by lmr (John Kerry, Favorite of World Leaders: Castro, Arafat, Kim Jong IL,Chavez and Bin Laden)
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To: wogawoga
I did maintenance at McDonald's when I was teenager, that meant cleaning sh*t up, literally. No racism involved, just that someone has to do it. I am in the trash business, do you know how many minorities are trash men? Is it racism, hell no. They are proud of what they do and they make good money. If someone is "too good" to do something and considers it "humilating" and "racist" then that is their problem. I am a sure Abercrombie and Fitch has hundreds of whites doing these same things in many of their locations. Give me a break.

Alot of people don't like their jobs, what makes me sick is that some of these people scream "racism" because of it.
26 posted on 11/17/2004 4:24:34 PM PST by lmr (John Kerry, Favorite of World Leaders: Castro, Arafat, Kim Jong IL,Chavez and Bin Laden)
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To: lmr

More than likely... she is fat, ugly (and just happens to be black...) I have noticed that hot looking, CUTE black girls get to work the floor and deal with customers, while UGLY fat girls (who happen to be WHITE) also get the bucket and mop jobs.

Image is everything in retail.
People who stink can't work with customers. People with running sores and constanty erupting acne, don't do well in jobs where attracting the public is key. WHO wants to do diet and weight training with some 'fat albert' who can't even reach, let alone scratch, his own butt?

Call it whatever you want, ugly people work the office, or the field. Good lookers get the 'face jobs'.

Abercrombie has an image. Sexy, fit, young, energetic, preppie, young adult, perfect abs and a tiny waist. You fit that image, you can get the job. If not, I guess you can blame it on racism... if you also happen to be... black.


28 posted on 11/17/2004 4:34:55 PM PST by Robert_Paulson2
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To: lmr
You're missing the point. This isn't about doing the dirty work. This isn't about "not liking your job." It's about a system in place which relegates people of color to lesser positions at stores around the country.

There's no reason why the minorities in the trash biz should not feel proud, they're doing tough work and putting food on the table. God bless em. But if for some reason a garbage company had whites pick up only recyclables and other "clean" garbage and had its minority crews deal with the nasty stuff you'd have to say something was up. They were hired to do the same job but decisions have been made along racial lines to have them do different work.

At A&F, if everybody who was hired to do the same job actually had the same responsibilties they'd have nothing to complain about. But the fact is the plantiffs in this case were actively singled out by their respective managers under a coordinated effort to place whites in the position to create an identity for the company. This isn't about minorities sick of doing the dirty work, it's about a corporate policy of discrimination in the work place which is illegal.

So if making decisions about your work force on the basis of race is not racism lmr, then please explain what is because I obviously don't know. The words seem to match up so well, maybe I'm confused.

29 posted on 11/18/2004 10:38:21 AM PST by wogawoga (Freedom First!)
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To: wogawoga
I doubt much of this goes on like you say. If you are like A & F, you are successful and you have a big bullseye on your back. I don't think as much damage was done as the settlement was for. A & F was just trying to avoid publicity. This seems to me just to be like the extortion shakedown racket that Jesse Jackson runs. I would look at any so-called "discrimination" lawsuits with just as much objectivity because I have seen some instances where parties have been unfairly accused and forced into settlements just to avoid publicity. It's all about the money, in the end. Some people are benefiting here that I don't think should.

Saying I am against racism would be true, but I don't say it in a defensive manner like most people do. I really mean it. I am skeptical of anything that involves Lawyers and millions of dollars. Anyone can understand that.
30 posted on 11/18/2004 3:57:38 PM PST by lmr (John Kerry, Favorite of World Leaders: Castro, Arafat, Kim Jong IL,Chavez and Bin Laden)
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To: wogawoga
I doubt much of this goes on like you say. If you are like A & F, you are successful and you have a big bullseye on your back. I don't think as much damage was done as the settlement was for. A & F was just trying to avoid publicity. This seems to me just to be like the extortion shakedown racket that Jesse Jackson runs. I would look at any so-called "discrimination" lawsuits with just as much objectivity because I have seen some instances where parties have been unfairly accused and forced into settlements just to avoid publicity. It's all about the money, in the end. Some people are benefiting here that I don't think should.

Saying I am against racism would be true, but I don't say it in a defensive manner like most people do. I really mean it. I am skeptical of anything that involves Lawyers and millions of dollars. Anyone can understand that.
31 posted on 11/18/2004 3:57:49 PM PST by lmr (John Kerry, Favorite of World Leaders: Castro, Arafat, Kim Jong IL,Chavez and Bin Laden)
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To: lmr

Sorry for multiple posts... lagging for some reason.


32 posted on 11/18/2004 4:18:46 PM PST by lmr (John Kerry, Favorite of World Leaders: Castro, Arafat, Kim Jong IL,Chavez and Bin Laden)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

I say we go after FUBU.


33 posted on 11/18/2004 4:47:05 PM PST by Elephino
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To: lmr

I can certainly agree with you that $40M is a ridiculous figure. Though I'm sure it's more about greedy lawyers trying to drive up their fees than an indicator of the injustice these people feel. Given JJ's record I can understand how people would have an immediate distaste for this sort of litigation. But the facts are readily available and it is clear there was a corporate policy of discrimination in place which was practiced in stores around the country. The lawsuit has a a basis in reality even if the payout does not.

In the end what matters is that the $40M gets their attention, and that of any other company that may want to engage in similar practices. Corporations are all about the bottom line and they need to understand that getting caught using illegal pratices (whether in hiring or bookkeeping) is going to cost a heck of a lot more that doing the right thing. So whether its discrimination or cooking the books, it's not just that it's illegal, it's immoral. I think we can all come together on the idea that corporations (and their customers) would be greatly serviced by four letters: WWJD.


34 posted on 11/19/2004 8:18:22 AM PST by wogawoga (Freedom First!)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

40 million dollars wow thats nothing to them


35 posted on 12/22/2004 12:21:33 PM PST by Billionariekid05
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