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March of Dimes and abortion (Exposing the Hidden Link)
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Posted on 11/17/2004 4:51:57 AM PST by cpforlife.org

March of Dimes Exposé Exposing the Hidden Link (Reprinted with permission from "Lifelines, newspaper of the Pennsylvania Pro-Life Federation")

For years the March of Dimes (MOD) has been boycotted by pro-life groups for its involvement in the abortion industry. Unfortunately, many well-meaning pro-life citizens continue to support MOD, not knowing one of the group's methods of preventing what it calls "Birth Defects" is to promote abortion.

MOD was one of the major forces behind the development and widespread use of amniocentesis in the second trimester of pregnancy. Amniocentesis is a test commonly used to determine if an unborn child has a congenital abnormality, knowledge of which can facilitate the decision to abort "defective" children.

Pat Robertson of CBN and the Christian Coalition asked those with this philosophy, "Would we have been better off if there had never been a Helen Keller or Beethoven or Einstein -- all of whom had "birth defects?"

Henry Foster, who was rejected by the Senate as President Clinton's nominee for Surgeon General, served on the March of Dimes' Medical Service Advisory committee. While on the committee, Foster admitted doing nearly 700 abortions following the results of amniocentesis,. Foster also defended fetoscopic prenatal research as "clearly therapeutic" since "it was done for the same reason that we do amniocentesis, to decide whether or not the pregnancy should continue, and to provide a therapeutic abortion."

Dr. David Nathan, Professor of Pediatrics at Harvard University, MOD grantee, and National MOD adviser, explained that one particularly elaborate international prenatal testing arrangement involving scientists in London, New Haven, and Boston was done in order that "knowledge go on, vital clinical testing go on, and when necessary, abortions go on."

In a letter to Congress in 1978, MOD president Charles Massey wrote in favor of legislation to fund this genetic screening. Massey notes, "The financial cost of treating and institutionalizing our severely affected survivors is staggering; we cannot begin to measure the cost."

MOD has given several grants for developing tests that can detect abnormalities in the first trimester. Prostaglandin abortionists Dr. Maurice J. Mahoney of Yale received $35,000 for research on chorionic villi sampling and for developing a prenatal diagnostic technique that would permit the first-trimester abortion of affected pre-born children. From 1989 to 1990, MOD gave $50,000 to Dr. Haig H. Kazazian of Johns Hopkins University, a staunch advocate of eugenic abortion, to perfect methods to detect, early in pregnancy, disorders such as beta-thalassemia, hemophilia A, Duchenne muscular dystrophy, and cystic fibrosis - none of which is treatable in the womb.

MOD has also funded fetal experimentation and fetal tissue use for more than two decades. In the early 1970's, MOD gave $19,000 to Dr. John F.S. Crocker of Dalhousie University in Halifax, Nova Scotia, to study congenital kidney abnormalities. This study involved "60 pairs of embryonic kidneys . . . obtained from human therapeutic abortions after five to twelve weeks gestation."

In 1973-74, MOD gave $9,420 for appallingly grotesque fetal brain metabolism studies in Helsinki, Finland on living, human babies aborted by hysterotomy and still attached by the umbilical cord to the mother. The babies were then decapitated and their heads were mounted on perfusion equipment. Arthur A. Galloway, MOD Vice President for Development, defended this research, saying it was "done legally and ethically" under Finnish law; that "the investigators did not participate in the decision to terminate pregnancy;" and "they were concerned with the ethics of discarding such fetal issue without seeking to find ways to improve the life and health of live born premature infants."

In the 1970's, a MOD grant was awarded to Dr. A. de la Chapelle of the University of Helsinki for research on maternal and fetal blood cells to detect genetic conditions early in pregnancy. Some cell sources for the experiment were obtained "by open-heart puncture of 10 week fetuses that had been aborted for various reasons, not connected with fetal diseases." (Healthy babies)

MOD published Strategies in Genetic Counseling: Reproductive Genetics and New Age Technologies in 1990. The book states the March of Dimes' viewpoint that, "There is no substitution for a constitutional right to abortion which protects our fundamental rights." Fortunately, pro-life leaders say, many Americans still recognize the fact that pre-born children, perfect and imperfect, are among those with fundamental rights to be protected.

Thankfully, there is a pro-life alternative for those wishing to support prenatal research. Those wishing to support life-supporting-birth defect prevention research may send donations to the Michael Fund, a pro-life genetic research foundation seeking to protect both unborn children with defects and children and adults with defects.

Because Down Syndrome babies are often among those innocent babies killed by abortion, the Michael Fund places special emphasis on Down Syndrome research. Columnist Rich Hinshaw says, "It is one of the triumphs of modern society that the life of the average person with Down Syndrome has become strikingly normal - except that, unlike normal people, people with Down Syndrome have been targeted for elimination." For an up-to-date packet about the organization and documentation of the pro-abortion aspects of MOD please call 412-823-6380 or write:

The Michael Fund 500 A Garden City Drive Pittsburgh, PA 15146


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1 posted on 11/17/2004 4:51:57 AM PST by cpforlife.org
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http://www.michaelfund.org/

March of Dimes: Death by Public Relations (RoeWadeDay)
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a388d12197dc8.htm

POPULATION CONTROL, THE FINAL SOLUTION (1 of 3)
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3926ba0b3bfa.htm

A Eugenics Primer
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3840573f5cda.htm


2 posted on 11/17/2004 4:53:57 AM PST by cpforlife.org (The Missing Key of The Pro-Life Movement is at www.CpForLife.org)
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To: MHGinTN; Coleus; nickcarraway; narses; Mr. Silverback; Canticle_of_Deborah; ...

Please let me know if you want on or off my Pro-Life Ping List.

3 posted on 11/17/2004 4:55:58 AM PST by cpforlife.org (The Missing Key of The Pro-Life Movement is at www.CpForLife.org)
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To: cpforlife.org

Thanks for posting this.

I was not aware of this connection at all.


4 posted on 11/17/2004 5:06:06 AM PST by kidd
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To: cpforlife.org

Interesting.

I plan to seek the free info from the Michael Fund. But does anyone else know anything of them?


5 posted on 11/17/2004 5:28:49 AM PST by Monterrosa-24 (Technology advances but human nature is dependably stagnant)
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To: kidd
What's sad is that so many pro-life folks are lured into collecting for these people. I once also collected for March of Dimes before I learned they supported abortion and fetal stem cell research. The last time I was asked to contribute to this group, I told the volunteer why I refused to give. I could tell when she blanched she also was taken in.
6 posted on 11/17/2004 5:33:57 AM PST by keats5
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To: cpforlife.org

Just sent a contribution to the March of Dimes... I'll double it now! Thank you (unwitrtingly I am sure) for this information...


7 posted on 11/17/2004 5:36:49 AM PST by Pitiricus
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To: cpforlife.org

The abortion solution to special needs children is much to prominant. I know the pressure first hand.


8 posted on 11/17/2004 5:41:53 AM PST by New Perspective (Proud father of an 11 month old son with Down Syndrome)
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To: New Perspective

Some freeper please tell me: is there any point to amniocentesis except for what is euphemistically called "screening"? Does amniocentesis serve any worthwhile function?


9 posted on 11/17/2004 5:51:36 AM PST by agere_contra
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To: Pitiricus

"In 1973-74, MOD gave $9,420 for appallingly grotesque fetal brain metabolism studies in Helsinki, Finland on living, human babies aborted by hysterotomy and still attached by the umbilical cord to the mother. The babies were then decapitated and their heads were mounted on perfusion equipment."

Nice to know you support this. If someone suggested your head be mounted for "research", would you support funding for that?


10 posted on 11/17/2004 5:55:11 AM PST by Rammer
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To: cpforlife.org

THANK YOU FOR POSTING!!!!

I had no idea. The MOD will never again get my support.


11 posted on 11/17/2004 5:57:44 AM PST by Rammer
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To: Rammer

Don't waste your time...


12 posted on 11/17/2004 5:58:17 AM PST by LearnsFromMistakes (Iowa - back home in the red.)
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To: cpforlife.org

Good to know. I never contributed to them in the past but considered it. Now I know better.


13 posted on 11/17/2004 6:07:52 AM PST by conservative cat
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To: Rammer

The only thing you would find in the brain's space would be a dumb ass smirk.


14 posted on 11/17/2004 6:17:29 AM PST by em2vn
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To: Pitiricus

Speaking as someone with a birth defect, F#@% you.


15 posted on 11/17/2004 6:23:24 AM PST by Sloth ("Rather is TV's real-life Ted Baxter, without Baxter's quiet dignity." -- Ann Coulter)
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To: Sloth

"Speaking as someone with a birth defect, F#@% you."

Why you have no right to live - According to some we should kill you now./Sarcasm/ What's the difference in doing that and aborting a child due to a potential defect.

Don't bother cursing the other poster- You can't reach someone who has no respect for life.


16 posted on 11/17/2004 6:35:40 AM PST by msp2004
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To: cpforlife.org
Thanks for this informative post.

When I was in 5th grade at a public school, we did a MOD fundraiser. My parents and I didn't know any better.

Years later I learned that MOD funds the killing of the innocent.

17 posted on 11/17/2004 6:36:51 AM PST by The_Eaglet (Conservative chat on IRC: http://searchirc.com/search.php?F=exact&T=chan&N=33&I=conservative)
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To: agere_contra
Does amniocentesis serve any worthwhile function?

The test will sometimes provide you with an idea of what is to come of your unborn child. It can detect disease and abnormalities. It can also show that the pregnancy is progressing along nicely. It is a double edged sword but for the most part, a rewarding experience. In a few instances it will show the potential for an unfortunate outcome at birth regarding some severe conditions. Conditions that will not allow the newborn to live longer than a few hours outside of the womb.

I have personally seen this happen and the parents went the full term knowing their daughter would die hours after birth. But the love this child emmited was immence to a point of total saturation and true peace. Only God should be the judge of an innocent unborn life.

18 posted on 11/17/2004 6:45:12 AM PST by New Perspective (Proud father of an 11 month old son with Down Syndrome)
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To: cpforlife.org

Thanks for the info.
I had no idea.


19 posted on 11/17/2004 6:53:21 AM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: cpforlife.org

Thank you. When I was young, our Catholic school collected for the March of Dimes! I suspect they did not know of this connection, either.


20 posted on 11/17/2004 7:46:11 AM PST by knittnmom
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To: 80 Square Miles

Yes,

In large part due to the priest and later bishop in these important links:


March of Dimes: Death by Public Relations (RoeWadeDay)
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a388d12197dc8.htm

POPULATION CONTROL, THE FINAL SOLUTION (1 of 3)
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3926ba0b3bfa.htm

A Eugenics Primer
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3840573f5cda.htm




21 posted on 11/17/2004 8:04:16 AM PST by cpforlife.org (The Missing Key of The Pro-Life Movement is at www.CpForLife.org)
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To: cpforlife.org
There is also more information on the MOD connection to fetal stem cells in this PDF link I posted on another thread:

Fetal Tissue and Embryo Stem Cell Research

E. Role of the March of Dimes (MOD)
On July 29, 1999, the MOD, along with 124 other organizations, petitioned Congress to allow federal funds for destructive embryo research. (The organization signed a similar letter in 1991 supporting an override of the Bush administration’s ban on federally funded tissue research from elective abortions.) The petition states that embryonic stem cells “have enormous potential for treatment of disease” and that public opinion supports the research. The signers dismiss alternative stem cell research (that which does not involve the destruction of human embryos) as insufficient, noting it would be a “grave mistake” to limit study to that area alone.

22 posted on 11/17/2004 8:16:48 AM PST by cgk (The Left was beaten by Pres Bush twice & will never have another shot at him... who's dumb?)
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To: afraidfortherepublic; AlbionGirl; anniegetyourgun; Aquinasfan; Archangelsk; A-teamMom; ...
Pro-life/pro-baby ping...


23 posted on 11/17/2004 8:17:41 AM PST by cgk (The Left was beaten by Pres Bush twice & will never have another shot at him... who's dumb?)
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To: cgk

Thanks for the ping!


24 posted on 11/17/2004 8:21:02 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: cpforlife.org

Fascinating information. I'll pass it along.


25 posted on 11/17/2004 8:25:30 AM PST by newzjunkey ("The rule of law has become confused with - indeed subverted by - the rule of judges." - Robert Bork)
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To: cgk
Thanks!

Hey, please add me to your PING list. We need to max out Pro-Life info throughout all of Freeperville.

Da more info -- Da betta' !

26 posted on 11/17/2004 8:27:56 AM PST by cpforlife.org (The Missing Key of The Pro-Life Movement is at www.CpForLife.org)
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To: cpforlife.org
We need to max out Pro-Life info throughout all of Freeperville.

I agree completely. There are 4 or 5 of us that have pro-life ping lists... I'm always worried they overlap and people are getting pinged to the same thread 5 times, but I haven't had any complaints yet (whew!)

And thank YOU!

27 posted on 11/17/2004 8:37:49 AM PST by cgk (The Left was beaten by Pres Bush twice & will never have another shot at him... who's dumb?)
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To: cpforlife.org

BTW - Here's an alternative link to the one I posted in #22. This is the HTML version of the PDF file if you have any trouble with the PDF format:

from google cache:
http://216.239.57.104/search?q=cache:HmXw95HGAbMJ:www.str.org/free/bioethics/stemcell.pdf+fetal+stem+cells+march+dimes&hl=en


28 posted on 11/17/2004 8:39:47 AM PST by cgk (The Left was beaten by Pres Bush twice & will never have another shot at him... who's dumb?)
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To: 2nd amendment mama; A2J; Agitate; Alouette; Annie03; aposiopetic; Askel5; attagirl; axel f; ...

ProLife Ping!

If anyone wants on or off my ProLife Ping List, please notify me here or by freepmail.

29 posted on 11/17/2004 8:40:42 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Once, I worked in the woods as a lumberjack, but I just couldn't hack it. They gave me the axe.)
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To: Pitiricus
Just sent a contribution to the March of Dimes... I'll double it now!

Photos of dead babies retrieved from dumpsters behind abortuaries

You must feel proud. God help you.

30 posted on 11/17/2004 8:44:27 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: cpforlife.org

"... to decide whether or not the pregnancy should continue, and to provide a therapeutic abortion." 'Therapeutic serial killing is more like it! Therapeutic abortion = the typical mischaracterization/lie by leftist societal engineers in defense of their favorite rite of liberal empowerment. What is therapeutic about killing someone because they aren't perfect in the womb? Is the therapy for the mother's and father's satisfaction? Is that the societal engineer's therapeutic intent? Make these bastards explain their evil mischaracterizations why don't we! Abortion isn't about saving women's lives or about liberating women, it's about manipulating segments of society to support a select political power group because the supporters cannot admit to themselves that they are wrong, doing wrong, and supporting the wrong people with the wrong agenda ... to admit any of it is to admit to oneself that 'I have done wrong and need forgiveness!' And the evil at the door and behind the couch works 24/7 to prevent such an awakening. The democrat party and their abortion defense constituencies are serving evil to the people, in small, manageable bites, easily swallowed though laced with poison for the soul! It is not therapeutic to maintain serial killing institutions, not therapeutic to the society and certainly not therapeutic to the alive little ones being slaughtered by heinous, torturous medical assaults on their life.


31 posted on 11/17/2004 8:44:33 AM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: agere_contra
Does amniocentesis serve any worthwhile function?

Some fetal abnormalities can be corrected in utero. I don't know if these are detectable with amnio.

I understand that the problem with amnio is that the procedure itself induces miscarriages 1 in every 300 procedures.

My wife and I refused it. We told the nurse that we'd take whatever we got. She turned her head and sniffed back a tear. What a world we live in.

32 posted on 11/17/2004 8:47:43 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Aquinasfan

Very proud... I also contribues to a few planned parenthood organizations...

God is pro-choice, something you don't understand I guess...


33 posted on 11/17/2004 8:52:40 AM PST by Pitiricus
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To: cpforlife.org
Thank you SO MUCH for the information!
I had no idea - although I should have. THis one slipped through the cracks.
We have had a check to the MOD waiting in our "To be mailed" box at home.
34 posted on 11/17/2004 8:54:33 AM PST by GrandEagle
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To: Sloth

What a nice way to debate...

LOL!


35 posted on 11/17/2004 8:55:11 AM PST by Pitiricus
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To: Pitiricus

Oh, you favor the killing of babies in the womb? How DU like of you.


36 posted on 11/17/2004 8:57:30 AM PST by Marysecretary (Thank you, Lord, for FOUR MORE YEARS!!!)
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To: Aquinasfan
My wife and I refused it.
I asked if there was anything that could find that we could change before birth. The answer was no.
Since it increased the risk to our children, we turned it down too.
He got pretty insistent with our last one. They even cornered my wife up without me there - she finally told them absolutely no, and to quit pestering us about it.

GE
37 posted on 11/17/2004 8:58:59 AM PST by GrandEagle
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To: Aquinasfan

Dear God...


38 posted on 11/17/2004 8:59:25 AM PST by Marysecretary (Thank you, Lord, for FOUR MORE YEARS!!!)
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To: agere_contra; All
Here it is:

According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), the risk of miscarriage due to amniocentesis is between one in 200 and one in 400

Moreover, the same article states that amnio largely tests for genetic or chromosonal disorders. These disorders cannot be treated in utero. One guess as to what this info is used for.

Some things detected by the test can be treated in utero, "such as biotin dependence and MMA (methylmalonic acidemia), both life-threatening body chemistry disorders." However, the existence of these disorders (MMA occurs 1 in 25,000-50,000 people) is far less the risk of miscarriage associated with amnio (1 in 300).

Spread the word.

39 posted on 11/17/2004 9:01:08 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Marysecretary

In the womb, it's called a... FETUS... Big difference... Using false words is how any propagandist tries to obscure the reality, but it doesn't move me one bit! And I am proudly pro choice...


40 posted on 11/17/2004 9:01:17 AM PST by Pitiricus
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To: cpforlife.org

"I love babies!" Bump

I've stopped giving to all but a few Veteran's organizations, and donating food and supplies to my local Food Pantry. It's disgusting how organizations such as the March of Dimes have fooled the general public for so many years.

Don't forget to keep an eye on the organizations that the HildaBeast "funds," as well. There are terrorists amongst us, and they're disguised as articulate women in fashionable clothing.


41 posted on 11/17/2004 9:01:42 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Marysecretary
Dear God...

America needs to see the pictures.

42 posted on 11/17/2004 9:04:01 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Pitiricus
"And I am proudly pro choice... "

Would you please explain why you are pro choice regarding abortion.

I like to try to understand the reasons behind your sides positions. Maybe you can illuminate me and others who would read your explanation?
43 posted on 11/17/2004 9:21:04 AM PST by cpforlife.org (The Missing Key of The Pro-Life Movement is at www.CpForLife.org)
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To: Pitiricus
"In the womb, it's called a... FETUS... Big difference

In the concentration camps, they were called ...WORKERS...

"ARBEIT MACHT FREI".

44 posted on 11/17/2004 9:38:17 AM PST by gatex
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To: agere_contra

My mom had an amnio with my brother. The blood testing that she had while pregnant indicated a high chance of Down's syndrome. They wanted to be prepared for it medically-speaking in the event he was indeed special needs. As it turns out, he was perfectly healthy.

I do know that some women who are in premature labor will have an amnio to determine if the baby's lungs are mature enough for it to survive if it is born early. If not, the doctors can give steroids to help mature the lungs.

So I believe there are cases where it can be useful...but I don't see why so many women with healthy pregnancies seem to be choosing to have them. It does carry a small risk of miscarriage and IMO should only be done if the risk to the baby or mom outweighs the risk of miscarriage. At least, that makes sense to me!


45 posted on 11/17/2004 10:05:36 AM PST by Rubber_Duckie_27
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To: Pitiricus

God's choice is LIFE. He hates abortion. I guess you don't understand that.


46 posted on 11/17/2004 10:55:20 AM PST by Marysecretary (Thank you, Lord, for FOUR MORE YEARS!!!)
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To: Pitiricus

You can call it anything you want. A fetus is still a human child. I can't believe you are a stupid person so I can only believe you have been deceived by the pro-choice whackos.


47 posted on 11/17/2004 10:56:15 AM PST by Marysecretary (Thank you, Lord, for FOUR MORE YEARS!!!)
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To: gatex

And in our not too recent past... blacks were called PROPERTY or... half a vote. Some people will never get it. Including that "fetus" is defined as BABY in Latin.


48 posted on 11/17/2004 10:56:56 AM PST by cgk (The Left was beaten by Pres Bush twice & will never have another shot at him... who's dumb?)
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To: Aquinasfan

Yes, they do. Then maybe they can get over the 'fetus' and tissue explanation MYTHS.


49 posted on 11/17/2004 10:57:06 AM PST by Marysecretary (Thank you, Lord, for FOUR MORE YEARS!!!)
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To: cgk

That's right. I had forgotten what the latin word meant.


50 posted on 11/17/2004 11:01:45 AM PST by Marysecretary (Thank you, Lord, for FOUR MORE YEARS!!!)
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