Posted on 11/17/2004 8:05:47 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez
They should be forced to investigate all wounded Terrorists
for imbedded IED's
No, he should be treated as a traitor, and dispatched with accordingly!!!
Another view of Fallujah
Mujahidin terrorised Fallujah, residents say
The Times (UK) ^ | 11/15/04 | Times Online and AFP
Posted on 11/15/2004 11:29:10 AM CST by saquin
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1280468/posts?page=5
Mutilated bodies dumped on Fallujah's bombed out streets today painted a harrowing picture of eight months of rebel rule.
As US and Iraqi troops mopped up the last vestiges of resistance in the city after a week of bombardment and fighting, residents who stayed on through last week's offensive were emerging and telling harrowing tales of the brutality they endured.
Flyposters still litter the walls bearing all manner of decrees from insurgent commanders, to be heeded on pain of death. Amid the rubble of the main shopping street, one decree bearing the insurgents' insignia - two Kalashnikovs propped together - and dated November 1 gives vendors three days to remove nine market stalls from outside the city's library or face execution.
The pretext given is that the rebels wanted to convert the building into a headquarters for the "Mujahidin Advisory Council" through which they ran the city.
Another poster in the ruins of the souk bears testament to the strict brand of Sunni Islam imposed by the council, fronted by hardline cleric Abdullah Junabi. The decree warns all women that they must cover up from head to toe outdoors, or face execution by the armed militants who controlled the streets.
Two female bodies found yesterday suggest such threats were far from idle. An Arab woman, in a violet nightdress, lay in a post-mortem embrace with a male corpse in the middle of the street. Both bodies had died from bullets to the head.
Just six metres away on the same street lay the decomposing corpse of a blonde-haired white woman, too disfigured for swift identification but presumed to be the body of one of the many foreign hostages kidnapped by the rebels.
It was initially thought to be either the body of Margaret Hassan, the Dublin-born aid worker with dual British and Iraqi nationality who was kidnapped last month, or a Polish woman kidnapped two weeks ago. A Polish official said today there was no evidence to suggest that the body was that of the kidnapped Pole.
Although the US military says it is now in control of the Sunni Muslim city, US forces were today attacking diehard rebel positions in the south of Fallujah, including an underground bunker complex of steel-reinforced tunnels containing weapons including an anti-aircraft artillery gun.
"What you’re seeing now are some of the hardliners, they seem to be better equipped than some of the earlier ones, we’ve seen flak jackets on some of them," Major General Richard Natonski, the Marine general who commanded the Fallujah offensive, told the BBC.
"I think they’re probably willing to lay down their lives in the fight. But we’re more determined and we’re going to wipe them out," he said.
The Iraqi Red Crescent today abandoned plans to take an aid convoy into the city after being refused entry by US forces who deny that there is any humanitarian emergency. The seven-truck convoy was instead heading to nearby villages, where tens of thousands of refugees from Fallujah are camped out.
Meanwhile International Red Cross spokesman today claimed that in the hours before the attack began, US troops had been preventing Iraqi males of military age from leaving Fallujah. Ahmed Ravi told the ITV News Channel: "There are still civilians inside Fallujah who are in serious need for any kind of help. Also, the water treatment plan, under control of Iraqi and American troops, is not functioning right now."
At least 38 US soldiers, five Iraqi soldiers and 1,200 insurgents are thought to have been killed during the week-long offensive, but civilian casualties are unclear - except for an implausible denial from Iyad Allawi, the acting Iraqi Prime Minister, that there are any.
Witness accounts appeared to contradict him. A member of an Iraqi relief committee told al-Jazeera television he saw 22 bodies buried in rubble in Fallujah’s northern Jolan district yesterday.
"Of the 22 bodies, five were found in one house as well as two children whose ages did not exceed 15 and a man with an artificial leg," Mohammed Farhan Awad said."Some of the bodies we found had been eaten by stray dogs and cats. It was a very painful sight."
A source close to Dr Allawi said this morning that two of the Prime Minister's female relatives abducted last week were freed last night. But Dr Allawi's 75-year-old cousin was still being held.
A previously unknown rebel group last week threatened to behead Dr Allawi's cousin, his wife and their heavily pregnant daughter-in-law unless the assault on Fallujah was stopped.
Such is the fear that the heavily armed militants held over Fallujah that many of the residents who emerged from the ruins welcomed the US marines, despite the massive destruction their firepower had inflicted on their city.
A man in his sixties, half-naked and his underwear stained with blood from shrapnel wounds from a US munition, cursed the insurgents as he greeted the advancing marines on Saturday night.
"I wish the Americans had come here the very first day and not waited eight months," he said, trembling. Nearby, a mosque courtyard had been used as a weapons store by the militants.
Another elderly man, who did not want his name used for fear the rebels would one day return and restore their draconian rule, said he was detained by the militants last Tuesday and held for four days before being freed. He described how he had then sought refuge in a friend's house where they had huddled together clutching Korans in silent prayer for their lives as the massive US bombardment put the insurgents to flight.
"It was horrible," he told an AFP reporter."We suffered from the bombings. Innocent people died or were wounded by the bombings.
"But we were happy you did what you did because Fallujah had been suffocated by the Mujahidin. Anyone considered suspicious would be slaughtered. We would see unknown corpses around the city all the time."
The same story of arbitrary executions was told by another resident, found by US troops cowering in his home with his brother and his family.
"They would wear black masks, carry rocket-propelled grenades and Kalashnikovs, and search streets and alleys," said Iyad Assam, 24. "I would hear stories, about how they executed five men one day and seven another for collaborating with the Americans. They made checkpoints on the roads. They put announcements on walls banning music and telling women to wear the veil from head to toe."
It was not just pedlars of alcohol or Western videos and women deemed improperly dressed who faced the militants' wrath. Even residents who regard themselves as observant Muslims lived in fear because they did not share the puritan brand of Sunni Islam that the insurgents enforced.
One devotee of a Sufi sect, followers of a mystical form of worship deemed herectical by the hardliners, told how he and other members of his order had lived in terror inside their homes for fear of retribution.
"It was a very hard life. We couldn't move. We could not work," said the man sporting the white robe and skullcap prescribed by his faith. "If they had any issue with a person, they would kill him or throw him in jail."
It would be fitting to see him become the next "Salman Rushdie".
I wonder if this is where the leadership is hiding.
"I don't think this unit is taking very kindly to this scumbag right now..."
I'd assume that was true too, but maybe this 'heroic' journalist would want to hang on - remember Geraldo displaying troop movement information in the sand during his 'damn-tough-reporter' junket? Many thought he was more a hero than the troopers; even some here on FR forgot his role as a kneepadder for krinton and his security breach when he resurfaced - again - in Iraq.
One could hope this swine tries to stick it out on his own...
He'd better not be anywhere near marines with guns.
If the enemy wishes his wounded or surrendering combatants to be treated humanely then the enemy should halt and condemn the practice of faking surrenders and then turning on our troops, faking injuries and then turning on our troops and booby trapping their dead and wounded. As long as the enemy continues these practices then our troops should not put themselves at risk.
The 'outrage' over this incident is not based in fact, it is a transparent attempt to "win" the battle of Fallugah for the enemy by means other then force of arms.
This propaganda ploy is going to blow up in the faces of those in the USA that get their hands dirty trying to use it.
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Monday, November 15, 2004
Marines killing an INNOCENT Terrorist!
/rant on
You know its funny. When the media gets bored with a story they seem to grasp onto anything they can. So last week it was all about the battle in Fallujah. Then as the week pressed up it was about whom the President was going to replace Ashcroft with. Then the weekend pressed on and nothing was really new. We had 100% of Fullujah occupied, but only subdued!! Then Colin Powell decides to resign, yippee! Then we have today. Oh just another day in media land! WRONG! We get headlines about "the possibility of another Abu Gharib". A Marine shoots an innocent Insurgent, yes you heard it I-N-N-O-C-E-N-T! F*ck him and f*ck the media! Those motherf*ckers have been using their fellow dead friends as traps for those boys! They say "take this grenade and when that western devil comes, blow them all up!" What we see in the media is some Marines go into a building and they see some dead body's of Terrorists left from the day before and a few live ones. What you don't know is how these Marines have been sweeping countless houses and almost getting their asses blown up because some f*ck face decided to pull the pin of a grenade and trying to take out anyone he could. So, you think the Marines are a little worried? I mean sh*t, those Marines could of just swept a house before and someone was trying to pretend to be dead and began to pull the pin from underneath himself and BOOOM! So we get this footage and a Marine says he is faking to be dead. He see's him clearly moving. Yeah, now what, let him move some more? Should we give him first aid when the house or two before a guy tried the same thing and killed one of your buddies?
F*ck that!
72 Virgins to you mother fucker!
You media f*cks who want to burn those Marines are not worth the sweat off my......just go fuck yourself! The rest of you, why are you not being the devils advocate?
/rant off
American Soldier
(Note: Some words edited from the original)
Wonder how Kevin Sites was selected?
Sites is just another left-wing propagandists who is seeking monetary gains through his antiwar agenda.
Unforturnately, Sites has poisoned the water for future war reporters who honestly report the news.
Folks, it's Cronkite, SeeBS and anti-Viet Nam war propaganda all over again.
Ernie Pyle must be rolling in his grave...again and again!!!
Semper Fi,
Kelly
Thank you for this information
That's where the leaderahip is believed to be hiding.
Would it be a threat to suggest that mister sites be left in the next Mosque with a billet in his head? Would it be outlandish to suggest that the Marine might have saved the sites fool's life by shooting the faking terrorists before he could open fire on the room in which sites was filming? Sites is trash, scum, vermin, a disgrace and not worthy to be protected by the Marines with whom he was traveling. But you know what? Those Marines have more integrity than to let sites get killed by his own foolishness. Thank God for the Marines. Sites belongs with the terrorists.
Thanks! My thoughts exactly.
I had been looking for something like this.
thanks again,
Jake
Editor in chief
Christian-news-in-maine.com
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