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To: Maceman
I really don't get Bush's position on this at all.

It's really quite simple: All the President wants to do is register illegal aliens with the federal government so they'll pay taxes, let them work for a few years doing jobs that Americans won't do like picking produce (after these jobs have been posted for 60 days FOR Americans but haven't been filled), and when their guest-worker permits expire, they'll have no choice but to return home.

But Congresscritters and hysterical FReepers would rather have the illegals still wandering around on the streets and getting paid under the table, sending most of their income back home to relatives in Mexico.

27 posted on 11/17/2004 10:01:59 AM PST by BlkConserv
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To: BlkConserv
It's really quite simple: All the President wants to do is register illegal aliens with the federal government so they'll pay taxes, let them work for a few years doing jobs that Americans won't do like picking produce (after these jobs have been posted for 60 days FOR Americans but haven't been filled), and when their guest-worker permits expire, they'll have no choice but to return home.

Even if our government did implement a guest worker program, we certainly don't need 15 million Mexican guest workers to pick our produce. Also, how would we make sure that the illegal aliens who got into the guest worker program do in fact go home after their permits expire? Right now, we have no way of knowing whether a foreigner whose visa has expired has left the United States when they're supposed to.

34 posted on 11/17/2004 10:17:08 AM PST by usadave
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To: BlkConserv
" let them work for a few years doing jobs that Americans won't do like picking produce (after these jobs have been posted for 60 days FOR Americans but haven't been filled)"

What you mean is jobs that Americans won't do for Third World wages. By flooding our labor market with the world's economic refugees, we're simply bidding our standard of living down.
38 posted on 11/17/2004 10:18:41 AM PST by radicalamericannationalist (The Senate is our new goal: 60 in '06.)
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To: BlkConserv
...doing jobs that Americans won't do like picking produce...

If these jobs were offered at higher wages, there would be Americans willing to do them. However, when you have all these illegals willing to work for lower pay, why offer the jobs at pay rates attractive to Americans?

59 posted on 11/17/2004 10:50:02 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Deport 'em all; let Fox sort 'em out!)
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To: BlkConserv

>>after these jobs have been posted for 60 days FOR Americans but haven't been filled<<

Yeah, at $5.25 and hour. If you pay them, Americans will do manual labor. In the 1960s, a meatpacker could earn over $20 and hour. Not in 1990s, inflation-adjusted dollars, but in 1960s money! Today, they get about $6 and hour. Why? Immigrant laborers.

Five years ago, my brother was making $25-$75 an hour in construction in the northeast. He moved to the southwest and found out that he can get about $6 to $7. And plenty of illegals work for far, far less than minimum.

The choice is simple: Paying 99 cents for a fast-food burger, instead of 79 cents, or face a bankrupted society run by socialists with no defense against terrorism, and no sense of nationhood.


73 posted on 11/17/2004 11:38:32 AM PST by dangus
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To: BlkConserv

How about this idea:
In order to receive welfare, current (American) citizens on welfare will be required to work these "jobs Americans dont want" in order to receive welfare.
Of course, the welfare pay-out would be less since the recipients will have a low income (5.15/hr).
That should take care of it.

Your argument is now blown out of the water.

Try again -


123 posted on 11/17/2004 9:59:19 PM PST by SealSeven
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To: BlkConserv
All the President wants to do is register illegal aliens with the federal government so they'll pay taxes, let them work for a few years doing jobs that Americans won't do like picking produce (after these jobs have been posted for 60 days FOR Americans but haven't been filled), and when their guest-worker permits expire, they'll have no choice but to return home.

And it will never work.

152 posted on 11/18/2004 5:12:21 AM PST by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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To: BlkConserv
and when their guest-worker permits expire, they'll have no choice but to return home.

Hehehe, that has to be the funniest thing I've read on FR in awhile.

179 posted on 11/18/2004 1:18:36 PM PST by dougherty (I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free. - Michelangelo)
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