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Slandering Private Ryan - In Fallujah
SD Union Tribune ^ | 11-17-04 | David D. Perlmutter

Posted on 11/17/2004 10:23:29 AM PST by cgk

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1 posted on 11/17/2004 10:23:29 AM PST by cgk
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To: cgk
John 'Frenchy' Kerry got a Silver Star for doing the same thing.

So9

2 posted on 11/17/2004 10:25:53 AM PST by Servant of the 9 (What I just said.)
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To: cgk
Civilian? Insurgent? The scumbag was a proven-murderous terrorist.

Double tap him and the embedded traitor.

3 posted on 11/17/2004 10:26:13 AM PST by Diogenesis ("Then I say unto you, send men to summon ... worms. And let us go to Fallujah to collect heads.")
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To: Servant of the 9

Excellent point - one I heard thankfully, made by a caller on the Michael Reagan show last night (was that you?)


4 posted on 11/17/2004 10:26:48 AM PST by cgk (The Left was beaten by Pres Bush twice & will never have another shot at him... who's dumb?)
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To: cgk
Take a famous scene from "Saving Private Ryan." At Normandy Beach, American soldiers, after terrible losses, finally knock out one enemy bunker with a flamethrower and Germans tumble out on fire, screaming in agony. "Let 'em burn," responds one GI without remorse. Witnessed from the comfort of our living room, it is a shocking statement and scene. But in the context of the film and of war it is understandable.

Actually the "Look I've washed my hands for supper" scene would fit better to the story.

5 posted on 11/17/2004 10:28:12 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: Diogenesis

Yep! That cartoon I posted should be titled "Embedded Reporter at War" more than "Moral Values Voter at War."


6 posted on 11/17/2004 10:28:28 AM PST by cgk (The Left was beaten by Pres Bush twice & will never have another shot at him... who's dumb?)
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To: cgk

http://www.petitiononline.com/as123/petition.html


7 posted on 11/17/2004 10:29:46 AM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: cgk
Terrorist who feign surrender or injury, hide among civilians and masquerade as noncombatants incur all moral and legal responsibility for the consequences.
8 posted on 11/17/2004 10:30:02 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT Headline: "The Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS", Fake But Accurate, Experts Say)
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To: cgk

I'm ticked and Danzinger for the Condi cartoon, but I gotta admit this one is pretty darn funny.


9 posted on 11/17/2004 10:34:05 AM PST by proust
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
Yup. And Kerry should be responsible for doing NOTHING
to stop the 911 Terrorists when he was WARNED in advance
about them using, and testing, Logan Airport.

And Sandy Burglar belongs in jail.

One could go on ....

10 posted on 11/17/2004 10:34:29 AM PST by Diogenesis ("Then I say unto you, send men to summon ... worms. And let us go to Fallujah to collect heads.")
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To: 68 grunt

Thank you for posting that! Just signed it.

I am so angry they are smearing this Marine, and through this story - our entire military. If it were not for our military and allies Saddam would still be burying "babies and children clutching toys", raping women, maiming, torturing and murdering men women and children, extorting and bribing and selling the souls of Iraq's country for his luxury digs and paying for suicide bombers to continue their own mission of terror & martyrdom. Oh.. yes.. and buying and seeking WMD. Why did they ignore the stories of the R-400 bombs found with weaponized anthrax? Why is Sarin not a WMD?

Screw the MSM! Are they so unhappy they cannot continue the light stories of "Saddam receives unanimous vote by his people! (breathless)" that they will fight the men who are protecting them with their own lives? Protecting them so they can fax and phone in those bogus stories?


11 posted on 11/17/2004 10:36:03 AM PST by cgk (The Left was beaten by Pres Bush twice & will never have another shot at him... who's dumb?)
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To: proust

re: the Condi cartoon...

I couldn't find it over here... (http://cagle.slate.msn.com/politicalcartoons/pccartoons/archives/danziger.asp?Action=GetImage)

where'd you see it?


12 posted on 11/17/2004 10:38:51 AM PST by cgk (The Left was beaten by Pres Bush twice & will never have another shot at him... who's dumb?)
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To: cgk

it's on rush's site


13 posted on 11/17/2004 10:40:15 AM PST by proust
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To: OXENinFLA

I'm not sure which scene that was.

But the scene that I think is most comparable is at the very end when the little guy shoots the burly German prisoner (Steamboat Willy). The kid convinced the other GIs to let this German go free about midway though the movie. At the end, this same Nazi soldier, who has taken up arms again, slowly plunges a knife through the heart of the Jewish GI (one of more gutwrenching scenes). After the Nazi is captured again, the kid walks up to the line of prisoners and shoots him.

Course, if all you saw was that end scene out of context, you'd think what a cold-blooded murderer this kid was.


14 posted on 11/17/2004 10:40:26 AM PST by Ex-Dem (AFL-CIO - Where organized labor becomes organized crime.)
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To: cgk

I know it is not a popular position, but I think it is entirely appropriate for the military justice system to investigate exactly what happened and then handle it in compliance with military law. I believe the stresses and circumstances faced by the Marine will be taken into consideration appropriately.


15 posted on 11/17/2004 10:41:15 AM PST by Restorer (Europe is heavily armed, but only with envy.)
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No surprise that war historian and analyst James F. Dunnigan estimated that, "Historically 50 percent of those surrendering [in war] do not survive the process."

Dunnigan's a smart guy, and he doesn't know, either. But he's trying to make is that surrendering is very dangerous.

There's a factor for any soldier intent on surrender needs to consider: it's very dangerous. The ground between contending forces is patrolled or observed by BOTH sides. That ground is likely to be mined & swept by automatic weapons & mortars.

The best way to survive is therefore to wait for the enemy to come to you. But there's a catch: Do not attempt to surrender to the enemy's assault troops (his first echelon). These men have a mission to consider, they have probably taken casualties, and they aren't very well equipped to take prisoners. If you pose any threat to them, or their mission YOU ARE DEAD.

So there's truly no way to know how many prisoners actually survive the "surrender process".

16 posted on 11/17/2004 10:43:59 AM PST by Tallguy
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To: Howlin; Southack

"Slandering Private Ryan"

IMHO that phrase resonates


17 posted on 11/17/2004 10:44:33 AM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: proust

Yes... I did see that one. Atrocious...


18 posted on 11/17/2004 10:45:46 AM PST by cgk (The Left was beaten by Pres Bush twice & will never have another shot at him... who's dumb?)
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Last Week: Some ABC affiliates refuse to air Saving Private Ryan, saying they're concerned with possible backlash in the wake of a Super Bowl wardrobe malfunction.

This Week: How many ABC affiliates dropped Monday Night Football with its little opening tie-in advertisement?
19 posted on 11/17/2004 10:47:00 AM PST by Chummy (Thank you God for giving to the USA our President George W. Bush!)
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American Marine shooting a wounded and unarmed civilian in Fallujah.

Unarmed civilian?

Doesn't an associate professor of mass communication at Louisiana State University need to have their facts straight?

Maybe this guy is just a professor of mass hysteria.
20 posted on 11/17/2004 10:47:04 AM PST by Beckwith (John Kerry is now a kept man . . .)
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