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FIRST HAND REPORT; MARINE UNDER INVESTIGATION

Posted on 11/17/2004 5:28:42 PM PST by lt.america

Good Morning Everybody. > > The following is an email from my son regarding the NBC report (with > embedded reporter Kevin Sites), concerning the Marine who is being > investigated for "murdering" the insurgent in Fallaja. I will be sending his > mail to every news program's email I can find. I find it sickening that this > Kevin Sites is even allowed to be embedded with our Marines, as this isn't > the first report I've heard from him that took on a decidely unfriendly > tone. My son also gave me permission to release it to anyone that wants to > pass it on, as long as it remains unedited. > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > This is one story of many that people normally don't hear, and one that > everyone does. > > This is just one most don't hear: > A young Marine and his cover man cautiously enter a room just recently > filled with insurgents armed with Ak-47's and RPG's. There are three dead, > another wailing in pain. The insurgent can be heard saying, "Mister, > mister! Diktoor, diktoor(doctor)!" He is badly wounded, lying in a pool of > his own blood. The Marine and his cover man slowly walk toward the injured > man, scanning to make sure no enemies come from behind. In a split > second, the pressure in the room greatly exceeds that of the outside, and > the concussion seems to be felt before the blast is heard. Marines outside > rush to the room, and look in horror as the dust gradually settles. The > result is a room filled with the barely recognizable remains of the > deceased, caused by an insurgent setting off several pounds of explosives. > The Marines' remains are gathered by teary eyed > comrades, brothers in arms, and shipped home in a box. The families can only > mourn over a casket and a picture of their loved one, a life cut short by > someone who hid behind a white flag. But no one hears these stories, except > those who have lived to carry remains of a friend, and the families who > loved the dead. No one hears this, so no one cares. > > This is the story everyone hears: > > A young Marine and his fire team cautiously enter a room just recently > filled with insurgents armed with AK-47's and RPG's. There are three dead, > another wailing in pain. The insugent can be heard saying, "Mister,mister! > Diktoor, diktoor(doctor)!" He is badly wounded.Suddenly, he pulls from under > his bloody clothes a grenade, without the pin. The explosion rocks the room, > killing one Marine, wounding the others. The young Marine catches shrapnel > in the face. > The next day, same Marine, same type of situation, a different story. The > young Marine and his cover man enter a room with two wounded insurgents. One > lies on the floor in puddle of blood, another against the > wall. A reporter and his camera survey the wreckage inside, and in the > background can be heard the voice of a Marine, "He's moving, he's moving!" > The pop of a rifle is heard, and the insurgent against the wall is now dead. > > Minutes, hours later, the scene is aired on national television, and the > Marine is being held for commiting a war crime. Unlawful killing. > > And now, another Marine has the possibility of being burned at the stake for > protecting the life of his > brethren. His family now wrings their hands in grief, tears streaming down > their face. Brother, should I have > been in your boots, i too would have done the same. > > For those of you who don't know, we Marines, Band of Brothers, Jarheads, > Leathernecks, etc., do not fight because we think it is right, or think it > is wrong. We are here for the man to our left, and the man to our > right. We choose to give our lives so that the man or woman next to us can > go home and see their husbands, wives, children, friends and families.

> > For those of you who sit on your couches in front of your television, and > choose to condemn this man's actions, I have but one thing to say to you. > Get out of you recliner, lace up my boots, pick up a rifle, leave > your family behind and join me. See what I've seen, walk where I have > walked. To those of you who support us, my sincerest gratitude. You keep us > alive. > > I am a Marine currently doing his second tour in Iraq. These are my opinions > and mine alone. They do not represent those of the Marine Corps or of the US > military, or any other. > > Sincerely, > > LCPL > USMC > > > > > > "For those who fight for it, freedom has a flavor the protected never know." > -- Written on a C-ration box lid at Khe Sanh, South Vietnam, 1968 > > "There will be nowhere left for the insurgents to hide.  We will fight them > until there are none of them left to fight."  U.S. Army Gen. John Abizaid, > chief of U.S. Central Command > > MGySgt., USMC (Ret.) > Not as lean, > Not as mean, > But still a Marine. > >


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KEYWORDS: boycottnbc; fallujah; fallujahmarine; iraq; marine; marineemail; mediabias; nbc; proterrorist; slanderngprivateryan; treason; zogbyism
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To: lt.america

No sweat.

If you copy and paste those into a Word or WordPerfect or whatever (I use StarOffice), you can use the "find and replace" feature to find all the >'s and replace them with nothing. It'll magically make 'em go away :)

If you get any more emails you can share publicly, please ping me.


41 posted on 11/17/2004 5:56:13 PM PST by Terabitten (Live as a bastion of freedom and democracy in the midst of the heart of darkness.)
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To: Zechariah11
Wait for awhile and Poohbah will show up with his "he has nothing to worry about if it was a righteous shoot."

My assesment is that this was a righteous shoot. Sorry if showing it disturbs you. This ain't Nintendo, sonny boy.

Then talk about the reporter just doing his job.

He was. SFW?

He'll also ask you to cite case law for this and that.

Only if people want to charge him with treason.

Imo, Sites is a Judas to those Marines who befriended him and to the country in which he was raised.

This was a righteous shooting. Why is the guy who videotapes it a "Judas?"

I want the jihadis to see what jihad gets them.

42 posted on 11/17/2004 5:56:15 PM PST by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
dfu has a thread going to get Freepers to sign on and show support for this Marine. dfu says he'll make sure that it gets printed out and to the Marine's family and ultimately to him. Check it out.
43 posted on 11/17/2004 5:56:49 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: lt.america; All
Get the embedded reporters out of combat zones now.

I can't even begin to describe my feelings when I hear of this young man is being considered war crime material.

My loyalties are with this Marine. Period, the end.

If REAL war crimes are ever committed by American troops, they should be prosecuted. This situation is an outrage.

It seems that there are no depths low enough for the Matrix(That's my word for the MSM.) to crawl through. They are beneath my contempt.

Arioch7 out.

44 posted on 11/17/2004 5:56:53 PM PST by Arioch7
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To: lt.america
I am not American,I am Canadian, and every day I thank God for the brave American soldiers that keep me and my family safe. I hope enough public outcry will be heard so that the witch hunt is called off on this marine,and also that he and his family feel the overwhelming support of right thinking and grateful people everywhere
45 posted on 11/17/2004 5:57:15 PM PST by nothernlights
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To: Timesink; martin_fierro; reformed_democrat; Loyalist; =Intervention=; PianoMan; GOPJ; ...
Media Schadenfreude and Media Shenanigans PING

See post #20 for formatted version...

46 posted on 11/17/2004 5:58:16 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: OwnershipSociety
There gonna have to lynch the Marine over my dead body!

Thats the way I feel too.

47 posted on 11/17/2004 5:58:24 PM PST by rstevens
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To: lt.america

Bump.


48 posted on 11/17/2004 5:59:10 PM PST by aculeus
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To: Zechariah11
Wait for awhile and Poohbah will show up with his "he has nothing to worry about if it was a righteous shoot." Then talk about the reporter just doing his job. He'll also ask you to cite case law for this and that.

Isn't that silly? That's just a total lack of common sense. I think a grade schooler could figure that out. Some things are just not for public consumption, and especially not by a media that will show only acts of killing or harm done by our troops. I haven't seen them yet show the schools in Iraq, and the grateful Iraqis and the progress made. Just panties on heads and now a Marine in the act of killing.

What's next, showing the shoveling of hundreds of terrorists bodies in a pit to be buried, or when the bodies have to be burned because they're rotting. Oh, yeah, that would be a real smart move, after all that's a "righteous act" also.

49 posted on 11/17/2004 6:00:03 PM PST by Lijahsbubbe
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To: lt.america
Marine Bump

US Military Bump.

50 posted on 11/17/2004 6:01:19 PM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: lt.america
While the rules of war at the Geneva convention should

protect the other marine this is a very powerful post and

should be seen by all. It takes you there where the war is

and gives the reader a birds eye view. Anyone who cannot

figure out what is going on over there at this point is

stupid or does not really want to know. Great post.
51 posted on 11/17/2004 6:01:38 PM PST by rodguy911 ( President Reagan---all the rest.)
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To: Alia
I should have prefaced by sharing how I got this e-mail. I received it from a like-minded individual (I removed the names and addresses from the transmission because I didn't know if all of them would want there addresses posted) who wanted me to get it out to as many people as I knew as he was doing the same.

Everyone I know is foaming at the mouth about this whole incident and I know if we keep this unedited story to the forefront, we can save this young devil dog. God Bless the Free Republic.
52 posted on 11/17/2004 6:02:37 PM PST by lt.america (Captain was already taken)
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To: lt.america
Don't worry about your formatting. This is important enough that I've copied and pasted it into a Word document, and I will format as required, and forward to everyone I can think of.

God Bless You for your service to our country.

53 posted on 11/17/2004 6:03:06 PM PST by Inspectorette
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To: rstevens

Bump!! I also think the Marine acted in a proper way in the way the enemy has repeatedly done over and oer!!


54 posted on 11/17/2004 6:03:38 PM PST by BobFromNJ (go-Star-go)
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To: lt.america

We've got your back's marines. We will win the Propoganda War at home.


55 posted on 11/17/2004 6:03:50 PM PST by skikvt
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To: Lijahsbubbe

If you can't stand to look at the product of the policy you support, turn off the damn TV and go hide in a closet or something, and leave the business of supporting this war to those of us who have the spine to do so.


56 posted on 11/17/2004 6:03:58 PM PST by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: lt.america
Unfortunately, this isn't about common sense, or what popular opinion thinks. It's about the rules of engagement. This Marine was filmed engaging a wounded, unarmed man with lethal force, and is pretty much certain to be prosecuted.

The rules of engagement won't take into consideration the fact that he was recently wounded, his buddies were recently killed by insurgents playing dead, that the enemy was booby trapping bodies, or that they were using illegal 'fake surrender' tactics. The law won't care.

According to the cold letter of the law, servicemembers in Iraq are not authorized to shoot wounded, unarmed opponents who are playing dead or otherwise not clearly engaged in hostile activity, which is exactly what happened.

Worrying about the MSM spin is beside the point; this Marine's biggest problem right now is the U.S. military is likely about to make a grim example out of him.

57 posted on 11/17/2004 6:04:50 PM PST by Steel Wolf (There's only three kinds of people in this world...)
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To: Shannon

Shannon, thank you. Hadn't seen your post formatting this message - you've provided a very valuable service.


58 posted on 11/17/2004 6:05:04 PM PST by Inspectorette
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To: Lijahsbubbe
Some things are just not for public consumption

I want EVERY would-be jihadi to see this tape.

They might figure out that dyin' is a lousy way to make a livin'.

59 posted on 11/17/2004 6:05:45 PM PST by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: lt.america

Kevin sites' site seems to be unobtainable right now.


60 posted on 11/17/2004 6:05:50 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Michigan's last flock of penguins left for the west coast in 1823 never to be heard from again.)
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