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Santorum in Dispute with Western PA School District
KYW Newsradio ^ | 18 Nov 2004 | Mike DeNardo

Posted on 11/18/2004 6:05:39 AM PST by SwinusMaximus

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To: mewzilla

"I think it's reasonable of the district not to want to foot the bill for kids who reside outside the district."



Rick Santorum pays property taxes on his home in Penn Hills, so the district isn't "footing the bill" any more than for any other kids whose parents pay property taxes in the district. Why should the charter school discriminate against him just because he is representing the people of Pennsylvania in the Senate? The fact that Santorum and his children spend part of the year in the DC suburbs means that Santorum is getting *fewer* services for his property tax dollars, since for months at a time he doesn't use the local roads or require trash collection, so taking away his right to send his kids to the charter school is adding insult to injury. If the Penn Hills school district is so concerned that only 12-month residents be eligible to attend the charter school, perhaps they should stop charging property taxes to Rick Santorum and other property owners who do not live there 12 months a year.


21 posted on 11/18/2004 6:37:56 AM PST by AuH2ORepublican (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

I doubt residency rules are determined by property ownership. What would happen to kids of people who rent, for instance? Either you live a certain number of days in the district or you don't. Leastways that's how it works around here. So either you meet the requirements or you don't. It's not rocket science.


22 posted on 11/18/2004 6:40:55 AM PST by mewzilla
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To: mewzilla; OldFriend
To my mind the only question is residency. If the Santorums meet it, then the district should belt up. If they don't, the district is in the right.

If Santorum were not a legal resident of PA, he would not be eligible to be a US Senator. Tom Daschle actually started the paper work to count his $2 million Washington DC home as his main residence to save on taxes last summer. Astute conservative groups were threatening to file a lawsuit arguing Daschle was no longer a resident of SD, so he was no longer eligible to be a senator from SD. What Santorum really should do is file a motion in federal court.

23 posted on 11/18/2004 6:41:09 AM PST by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Arlen Specter's got to go!)
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To: SwinusMaximus
This Penn Hills board member is a DNC operative of some kind. This was discussed on another thread.

$5,ooo on a child is not that much.

24 posted on 11/18/2004 6:42:26 AM PST by MadelineZapeezda (If you right click on Keith Olberman's image, the word a$$hole should come up!)
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To: AuH2ORepublican
Exactly. Besides, the district was making money from Santorum's children. The school district receives approx $8000 (don't have the exact number) per child per year in tax revenues from local and state taxes. The Santorum children cost $ 5000 each, ergo the district had a spare $3000 per child to spend on all the other children.

Typical uneducated school board - can't do their own math. Now they'll lose all the $8000 per child. Idiots.

25 posted on 11/18/2004 6:43:28 AM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: SwinusMaximus

Santorum is a name I'll file away with "Specter" and "Hatch".


26 posted on 11/18/2004 6:44:11 AM PST by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: SwinusMaximus

That's what the author of this article would like to see happen.

Rick Santorum is one of the finest and most conservative senators in Congress. Some around here are biting the hand that feeds them.


27 posted on 11/18/2004 6:48:57 AM PST by ConservativeLawStudent
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To: ConservativeLawStudent
>Rick Santorum is one of the finest and most conservative senators in Congress

He may show himself to be one of the most conservative but he's a politico; make no mistake about it. If he had put his support behind a guy who's more conservative than Specter there's a fair chance that Bush would have carried PA and gone over 300 Electoral votes.

And as a side note, I wrote a letter to Senator Santorum a couple years back asking for guidance on an issue of some importance to a true conservative and I got back a form letter that turned my stomach. He's a fraud.

This particular item (the story) is mostly bullshit but it does illustrate the part karma plays in politics.

28 posted on 11/18/2004 7:00:31 AM PST by SwinusMaximus
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To: netmilsmom

I see he has "Chosen to Homeschool"!!!! They were anyway! It was a cyber academy.

Not "technically." If you cyberschool in PA, it is Public School and the tuition is paid for by your home district. If you homeschool, totally different animal.


29 posted on 11/18/2004 7:01:21 AM PST by Dasaji (WOO HOO!!!! 4 More Years!! - HEY! Become a FreeRepublic Monthly Donor!)
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To: mewzilla
I think it's reasonable of the district not to want to foot the bill for kids who reside outside the district.

Rick owns a house in Penn Hills. He pays property, wage and state income tax from that address. Will the Penn Hills School District return the money to the state of PA it was allocated by the fact that the Senator lists Penn Hills as his home district on his state income tax? It is his "official residence", and by law, he has to have one in the state he represents. His children are not using the districts busses. They are not getting subsidized school lunches or using school facilities while their father pays all the taxes required of him.

I think this is purely political and I know Penn Hills. It is a corrupt Rat run inner-ring suburb of Pittsburgh. I'm willing to bet that if Rick were a Rat, nothing would have been said.

30 posted on 11/18/2004 7:11:53 AM PST by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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To: NEPA

I wasn't aware of that. But I have lived in DC and I know how expensive it is. I am very sensitive to the fact that it's financially very difficult for some MOC to keep up two full residences. Especially Santorum who has so many young children. I assume his wife does not work outside the home.


31 posted on 11/18/2004 7:40:02 AM PST by twigs
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To: mewzilla

It's just not the same. The only reason the Santorum family lives in VA is because they are doing the business of PA. I live in PA and think this is scandalous. If he were working for a private firm and chose to live between two places, then I would agree with you entirely. But he's not.


32 posted on 11/18/2004 7:44:38 AM PST by twigs
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To: Dasaji

>>Not "technically." If you cyberschool in PA, it is Public School and the tuition is paid for by your home district. If you homeschool, totally different animal.<<

Technically, yes. It is a Charter in PA just like K-12 is a charter in Ohio.
I bought a three hundred dollar curriculm and homeschool my kids in MI.
My nephew in Cleveland homeschools through K12.
Both of our kids are HOME-schooled.
The only difference is the cost and accountability.
I bet Santorum will pay cash for his kids to remain in the Cyber school. If I got his pay and was using a cyberschool, I would continue it through my pocket too.


33 posted on 11/18/2004 8:13:47 AM PST by netmilsmom (Zell on DEM Christianity, "They can hum the tune, but can't sing the song.")
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To: SwinusMaximus

> If he had put his support behind a guy who's more conservative than Specter there's a fair chance that Bush would have carried PA and gone over 300 Electoral votes. <

You are being sarcastic right? It is not possible 150,000 PA voters did not vote in this election because Toommy was not running .With an IQ that low they would have voted for Kerry anyway.


34 posted on 11/18/2004 8:31:01 AM PST by Blessed
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To: mewzilla

>Either you live a certain number of days in the district or you don't. Leastways that's how it works around here<

I don't know of any place in this country where the government audits how many days you live in your house each year.Residence is where you register your car,pay income taxes and register to vote.With this logic a soldier who claims residency in PA and is stationed in Iraq would not be intitled to send his children to Penn State as an instate student or even vote in PA.


35 posted on 11/18/2004 8:39:12 AM PST by Blessed
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To: SwinusMaximus

I don't know what Sen. Santorum wrote to you but I do know this - It takes a lot of courage to run for a statewide office in place like PA, and to hold yourself out as one that is pro-life and have that be an issue in your campaign. He has never hid that.

Maybe you have your own issues w/ Sen. Santorum, but most on this board who are upset with him are so simply b/c of the Arlen Spector situation. I opposed Sen. Spector in the primary and was not happy w/ Santorum or President Bush's support for Spector, but I am willing to defer to their judgment and what they thought at the time was the best option, even if now it looks like a mistake.

Rick Santorum's record in the Senate reflects one of a true conservative. Jumping ship on him would be shooting ourself in the foot if we really want to advance our conservative agenda.

It appears as if Spector will get the chair, however we accomplished what we needed. We scared the living daylights out of Spector and let him know there will be hell to pay
if he does indeed apply a litmus test, which he has now backed off of. I am willing to bet he made some kind of deal w/ the likes of Sens. Kyl, Sessions, and Cornyn to get their support. Now let's do what Peggy Noonan suggests today.


36 posted on 11/18/2004 10:47:32 AM PST by ConservativeLawStudent
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To: Blessed
>You are being sarcastic right?

Not really. There certainly weren't 150K who didn't show up because Toomey wasn't running but there were many who didn't come out and I don't know what the count is of people who voted for Kerry out of spite because he (and Santorum) turned their back on a true conservative. Also, what you saw up here was a lot of lawn signs for Kerry with Specter signs sitting right beside them. Interesting, eh?

As it is we'll never know for sure but both Bush and Santorum wasted political capital that could've been used elsewhere and we still have a senior Senator who's fundamentally no different than a lot of Democrats. There are a lot of people around here who would've rather gone down fighting with Toomey than to be stuck with Specter.

37 posted on 11/18/2004 11:42:12 AM PST by SwinusMaximus
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To: ConservativeLawStudent
Yes, I do have issues with Santorum that I alluded to but I've never brought them up here and I won't now. Suffice it to say that I was not impressed with the response from his office and we'll leave it at that for now.

It doesn't take all that much courage to run as he's run in PA. Other than Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, and a couple of other locations PA is a pretty conservative area. If you look at the PA red/blue map by county you'll see what I mean.

The political capital I mentioned to a previous poster (#37) is that "Fast Eddie" Rendell is going to run for Governor again and Bush and Santorum pissed enough people off that it could affect that fight and people's willingness to fight the good fight again. I hope not, but I'm not discounting it.

38 posted on 11/18/2004 11:49:07 AM PST by SwinusMaximus
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