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Bill Gates drowning in spam
CNN ^ | November 18, 2004: 7:57 AM EST | Rueters

Posted on 11/18/2004 7:04:28 AM PST by .cnI redruM

Microsoft founder and chairman gets 4 million e-mails a day, making him world's most spammed person.

SINGAPORE (Reuters) - E-mail users inundated with unsolicited "spam" messages have reason to hope Microsoft Corp. will develop better tools for tackling the problem: Bill Gates is suffering more than anyone.

Gates, Microsoft's chairman, gets 4 million e-mails a day and is probably the most "spammed" person in the world, his Chief Executive Officer Steve Ballmer said Thursday.

(Excerpt) Read more at money.cnn.com ...


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KEYWORDS: gates; hotmail; spam
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He should try his spam with potatoes, salsa and scrambled eggs. It's good.
1 posted on 11/18/2004 7:04:29 AM PST by .cnI redruM
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To: .cnI redruM

For a bazillion dollars I'd take 4 million spams a day.


2 posted on 11/18/2004 7:05:52 AM PST by Rebelbase (Indiscriminate reprisals strengthen the terrorists. Targeted ones weaken them. Aim is everything.)
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To: .cnI redruM

Baked beans are off.


3 posted on 11/18/2004 7:06:39 AM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: .cnI redruM

4 posted on 11/18/2004 7:06:43 AM PST by Bluegrass Conservative
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To: .cnI redruM
Microsoft founder and chairman gets 4 million e-mails a day, making him world's most spammed person.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Gates could stop all that spam if he just used Linux and the TMDA anti-spam system.

5 posted on 11/18/2004 7:06:44 AM PST by Prime Choice (STFU ACLU.)
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To: .cnI redruM

Please send comments to:

bill.gates@microsoft.com


6 posted on 11/18/2004 7:07:31 AM PST by Tarpaulin (Look it up.)
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To: .cnI redruM
Gates, Microsoft's chairman, gets 4 million e-mails a day. . .

Half are for ED products and the other half Nigerian get rich quick schemes.

7 posted on 11/18/2004 7:07:46 AM PST by Mike Bates (Just in time for your Thanksgiving gift giving needs: THE book.)
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To: Knitebane; rdb3; TechJunkYard

bttt


8 posted on 11/18/2004 7:08:21 AM PST by stainlessbanner
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To: .cnI redruM

This made me laugh.


9 posted on 11/18/2004 7:09:56 AM PST by Malleus Dei ("Communists are just Democrats in a hurry.")
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To: .cnI redruM

Yea, but he can afford an assistant to help read them all.


10 posted on 11/18/2004 7:10:47 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Prime Choice

Or, alternatively, he could save time installing a half-baked OS simply by using a different email for all of his serious correspondance--something he most likely already does. I can't imagine him using his official, public email address to conduct corporate business and send memos.


11 posted on 11/18/2004 7:10:58 AM PST by Terpfen (Gore/Sharpton '08: it's Al-right!)
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To: Prime Choice
I think the open source MailScanner is in wide use, also.
12 posted on 11/18/2004 7:11:44 AM PST by snowsislander
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To: Rebelbase

for half a bazillion dollars, I'd take 8 million spams a day!


13 posted on 11/18/2004 7:11:56 AM PST by Heff ("Liberty is not America's gift to the world, it's the Almighty's gift to humanity" GW Bush 4/12/04)
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To: .cnI redruM
Kevin Sites has to be closing in on him fast....ooops, I guess all those emails aren't spam.
14 posted on 11/18/2004 7:12:25 AM PST by ml1954
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To: .cnI redruM

By the way, if you want to stop Spam and you run a Windows system, get the free Thunderbird mail client from mozilla.org and use the built-in junk button and the filters to train it to spot spam and get rid of it. After a short while you get virtually no spam at all.

Plus it's a great, free email client. There's versions for other OS available as well.


15 posted on 11/18/2004 7:12:46 AM PST by Malleus Dei ("Communists are just Democrats in a hurry.")
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To: .cnI redruM

Breaded spam is wonderful. Or, as it is called where I'm from.....pannayed spam.

( "Pannayed" is the phonetic spelling. I don't know the actual spelling since it is a Cajun French abominative word. )


16 posted on 11/18/2004 7:14:27 AM PST by El Gran Salseron (My wife just won the "Inmate of the Month" Award! :-))
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To: .cnI redruM

Wonder why I don't get Spam..oh thats right I have a Mac and I use Mail which has one of the best spam filters out there.


17 posted on 11/18/2004 7:15:28 AM PST by halosfan2002 (Moral Clarity is a sign of good Character.)
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To: Terpfen
Or, alternatively, he could save time installing a half-baked OS

Hate to break the news to ya, but Gates is already running a half-baked OS. It's called Windows.

simply by using a different email for all of his serious correspondance

In my world, people don't solve problems by running away from them.

18 posted on 11/18/2004 7:17:25 AM PST by Prime Choice (STFU ACLU.)
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To: Bluegrass Conservative

I love how the can says "Serving Suggestion."


What!?! You mean it doesn't come out of the can with cloves and parsley.


19 posted on 11/18/2004 7:18:43 AM PST by Petronski (Okay, so today I *am* cranky.)
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To: .cnI redruM
My mail host has a technique that really cuts down on spam - called "blacklisting", or "whitelisting", or "graylisting".

It seems there's a mail standard that says, if an error occurs, the sender is supposed to re-try again later. Most of the hijacked servers that send out spam do not follow this standard.

So, if I get mail from somebody on my whitelist, it's sent thru immediately.
If I get mail from somebody on my blacklist, it's rejected (I never see it).
If I get mail from somebody not on either list, it's reported as an error to the sender. If the sender follows the standard, it's re-sent withing a couple of hours (usually a few minutes), and it makes it thru to me. (this is the gray list).

This has cut down my spam from 30+ per day to about 3 per week.

20 posted on 11/18/2004 7:18:53 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Bluegrass Conservative

A Monty Python skit comes to mind.


21 posted on 11/18/2004 7:21:32 AM PST by NCC-1701 (ISLAM IS A CULT, PURE AND SIMPLE!!!!! IT MUST BE ERADICATED FROM THE FACE OF THE EARTH.)
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To: Heff
for half a bazillion dollars, I'd take 8 million spams a day!

And I'd take a half a bazillion spams a day for 8 million dollars!:)

22 posted on 11/18/2004 7:24:41 AM PST by xJones
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To: Mike Bates
One of those deleted emails was probably from the legal dept. Something about a lawsuit from some company called Sun Microsystems...
23 posted on 11/18/2004 7:25:19 AM PST by .cnI redruM (Idiots so love to bury a god. - Charles Buckowski)
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To: Tarpaulin

And you can bet Gates has at least ONE internet ID that you
and I will NEVER see! "Let the little guys THINK they're getting through to me. My hired alter-egos answer those messages they deem worthy of an answer.


24 posted on 11/18/2004 7:26:01 AM PST by Grendel9
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To: snowsislander
I think the open source MailScanner is in wide use, also.

I chose to go with TMDA since it uses both whitelists and blacklists. I first installed it back in March of this year (along with the mfcheck patch for Qmail). Since that time, only 3 spam have landed in my inbox in the past 8 months. I used to see at least 200 a day.

25 posted on 11/18/2004 7:26:01 AM PST by Prime Choice (STFU ACLU.)
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To: .cnI redruM

Me, I'm having spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, bacon, eggs, and spam.


26 posted on 11/18/2004 7:26:35 AM PST by Mr. K ((this space for rent))
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To: .cnI redruM
One of those deleted emails was probably from the legal dept. Something about a lawsuit from some company called Sun Microsystems...

Should have used special service, which I use for all my lawsuits.

27 posted on 11/18/2004 7:32:06 AM PST by Mike Bates (Just in time for your Thanksgiving gift giving needs: THE book.)
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To: .cnI redruM

Can I get some Viking Kitties singing...

"SPAM! (tm) SPAM! (tm) SPAM! (tm) SPAM! (tm) SPAM! (tm) SPAM! (tm) SPAM! (tm) SPAM! (tm)"


28 posted on 11/18/2004 7:33:18 AM PST by MarineBrat
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To: Malleus Dei
I agree. I moved to Thunderbird a while ago and it's great. I was actually surprised at how quickly you could "train" Thunderbird to recognize junk mail. And, I realize that Outlook has junk mail controls that you can "train" also, but Thunderbird seems easier.

Maybe it's just an interface thing, but the junk mail button is already on the toolbar in Thunderbird. Since using Thunderbird, I have since added the "Junk Mail" button to my Outlook (which I still use for some email accounts) toolbar. But, even when you do this, you have to go through "Organize" and all that crap. Thunderbird is just so much easier.

And, as I have posted on some other threads, I still have an XP box (for business stuff), but I do all my emailing and browsing with Thunderbird and Firefox, respectively. I'm still learning Linux. I installed Fedora Linux installed on a spare box I had (1Gz, 256MB, 10GB HD...nothing fancy) and it runs like a charm, though I'm going to upgrade the memory and the video card). I use my XP box for my accounting stuff for my business, web design (with Macromedia's Dreamweaver, Fireworks, etc...Macromedia doesn't have Linux versions of this software), some business-critical Access databases, and some other stuff.

I still like to use MS Office, as I have an MOS certification. I like OpenOffice's features (especially the one-click and FREE PDF creation). But, I'm just really getting used to the differences in where stuff is. Put it this way, I can create a document or spreadsheet a lot faster in MS Office than I can in OpenOffice. But, that has more to do with familiarity with MS Office than anything else.

29 posted on 11/18/2004 7:36:30 AM PST by mattdono ("Crush the democrats, drive them before you, and hear the lamentations of the scumbags" -Big Arnie)
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To: NCC-1701
A Monty Python skit comes to mind.

<Shrill Voice>But I don't like Spam!

30 posted on 11/18/2004 7:37:24 AM PST by NCSteve
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To: Prime Choice
"Hate to break the news to ya, but Gates is already running a half-baked OS. It's called Windows."

If it was a version of the 9x kernel, I'd agree with you. 2000 and XP are excellent, however, and I really can't see Billy G running a copy of Win95 at home.

"In my world, people don't solve problems by running away from them."

So... maintaining a private e-mail account, while using a public email account as a feint to draw attention, is running away? So I guess military strategies which involve fooling the enemy via feints and disinformation amounts to running away, too.
31 posted on 11/18/2004 7:38:12 AM PST by Terpfen (Gore/Sharpton '08: it's Al-right!)
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To: .cnI redruM
Once again, insipid crap from Reuters.

The Bill "suffering"? Plueeze!

As some of you might have surmised, contrary to the notion offered up by this stupid article, B Gates' email isn't bill.gates@microsoft.com, or billg@microsoft.com. (Although those are legitimate addresses). He has an unpublished account that is used internally and maintained by underlings. All his stuff is triaged, sorted, and prioritized before he gets to work, and is waiting for him when he finds his way there (his sense of (mis)direction while driving is notorious ;'}
32 posted on 11/18/2004 7:39:48 AM PST by rockrr (I can't wait until sKerry is reduced to the level of a nuisance)
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To: Terpfen
If it was a version of the 9x kernel...

Kernel? Winderz 9x has a kernel? Hah! Ah ha ha ha ha ha! Sorry, I'll regain my composure in a minute. Ah ha ha ha ha ha!

2000 and XP are excellent...

In which universe? You really ought to try stand-up. You're a natural.

33 posted on 11/18/2004 7:43:44 AM PST by NCSteve
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To: NCSteve
XP is tolerable.
34 posted on 11/18/2004 7:46:43 AM PST by null and void (Ghod, I hate the clintons...)
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To: null and void

Like a toothace?


35 posted on 11/18/2004 7:49:21 AM PST by NCSteve
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To: mattdono

I stopped using mail clients a long time ago.

Yahoo Mail has a great spam filtering system, you might see one or two spams per week in your Inbox. The identified spam goes to what they call the Bulk Mail folder, which you can review and purge every week or two.

Lots of other mail controls, the best is Address Guard which lets you create email alias addresses which are tied to your account. If someone starts spamming your alias, you just delete it and you'll never see that spammer again.


36 posted on 11/18/2004 7:50:17 AM PST by angkor
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To: NCSteve

A bit better than that, at least XP doesn't crash. Much.


37 posted on 11/18/2004 7:50:18 AM PST by null and void (Ghod, I hate the clintons...)
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To: Terpfen
2000 and XP are excellent, however...

Tell that to the poor souls who auto-downloaded and installed SP2 on XP. Some security update. It made the OS so "secure" that even authorized users couldn't use it.

38 posted on 11/18/2004 7:54:10 AM PST by Prime Choice (STFU ACLU.)
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To: Petronski

My favorite part is where it lists the ingredients and the first two are pork and ham. Isn't ham pork????


39 posted on 11/18/2004 7:54:37 AM PST by Bluegrass Conservative
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To: Prime Choice
"Tell that to the poor souls who auto-downloaded and installed SP2 on XP."

I would be among those poor souls. However, I am also among those fortunate souls who ran a spyware scan before installing SP2, thus leaving my system with precisely zero problems after installation.
40 posted on 11/18/2004 8:02:56 AM PST by Terpfen (Gore/Sharpton '08: it's Al-right!)
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To: NCSteve
"Kernel? Winderz 9x has a kernel? Hah! Ah ha ha ha ha ha! Sorry, I'll regain my composure in a minute. Ah ha ha ha ha ha!"

Welcome to the difference between the Win9x series and WinNT plus its derivatives.

"In which universe?"

In this one. Would you like to tell me why Win2000 and WinXP aren't great operating systems? I have plenty of gripes with them myself, but nothing on the fanboyish order of "they suck, M$ sucks!" I mainly wish Microsoft would hire some competent, inspired artists to pretty Windows up. Luna is the worst theme I've ever seen in my life, just a step up from the Spartan Win95 theme. At least uxtheme allows for some skinning, which is a plus.
41 posted on 11/18/2004 8:08:01 AM PST by Terpfen (Gore/Sharpton '08: it's Al-right!)
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To: rockrr
He has an unpublished account that is used internally and maintained by underlings. All his stuff is triaged, sorted, and prioritized before he gets to work, and is waiting for him when he finds his way there (his sense of (mis)direction while driving is notorious ;'}

Bingo!
And in addition to the "private" account that's maintained by underlings, who would ever believe that Gates hasn't figured out that he can have a truly secret email address? You know, something like richgeek@HotMail.com?

42 posted on 11/18/2004 9:09:52 AM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Terpfen
Would you like to tell me why Win2000 and WinXP aren't great operating systems?

We can start there. Calling them operating systems is pretty generous, don't you think? Program facilitator? Sure. Application launcher. Of course. Virus propagation mechanism. You betcha. Any similarity between Windows and an operating system is purely unintentional and coincidental.

Unix is an operating system. VMS is an operating system. Heck, even OS-X is an operating system. Windows wanted to be one, but it failed.

Windows memory management system is neither a system nor management. Even a freshman CS student knows better than to allow application space code cause the system to lose track of a resource. Allowing a user space application to exhaust enough system resources that it causes the system to hang or crash is not exactly a hallmark of a decent operating system. Neither is giving unfettered access to the system primitives via the network. Don't buy Microsoft's male bovine offal about Windoze being the premiere target for virii simply because it is the most widely used desktop. It is mostly because it is just so easy. Most of the virii being spread around these days were created by High School kids in their spare time. Windows networking is a hacked up kludge that sits as an afterthought to the system's operating mechanisms. Internet users still have to tiptoe around the NetBIOS and NetBEUI primitives that made up the sorry excuse for a network stack in Windows 3.11. Windows multi-processing and multithreading are absolute jokes. The fact that Outlook or IE can choke on something and cause the entire system to freeze is a good indicator that the Windows multitasking mechanisms are just a tad on the weak side. There's more, but that should suffice for now.

Windows is a wonderful system if you are going to balance your checkbook or play Star Craft. For serious use, you need to move to an actual computer operating system.

43 posted on 11/18/2004 9:13:20 AM PST by NCSteve
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To: NCSteve
"Don't buy Microsoft's male bovine offal about Windoze being the premiere target for virii simply because it is the most widely used desktop. It is mostly because it is just so easy. Most of the virii being spread around these days were created by High School kids in their spare time. Windows networking is a hacked up kludge that sits as an afterthought to the system's operating mechanisms. Internet users still have to tiptoe around the NetBIOS and NetBEUI primitives that made up the sorry excuse for a network stack in Windows 3.11. Windows multi-processing and multithreading are absolute jokes. The fact that Outlook or IE can choke on something and cause the entire system to freeze is a good indicator that the Windows multitasking mechanisms are just a tad on the weak side. There's more, but that should suffice for now."

I agree completely, which is why I don't run Microsoft programs on this thing. I really do think Linux is coming into its own as a great OS, but it still lacks enough support for my tastes. I can't run games on it (particularly Steam, which is how I bought Half-life 2), and I'm not familiar with its theming ability, or availablility of Trillian-like IM software. I'm also not sure I could live without Winamp.

But it's got the basic stability issues covered, it's a pretty good workplace solution (OpenOffice is really nice), but it still needs to bake for a while longer, IMO. Windows isn't perfect--and I never said it was--but I can still do things with it that I can't on Linux, which is why I'm still using it.
44 posted on 11/18/2004 9:32:13 AM PST by Terpfen (Gore/Sharpton '08: it's Al-right!)
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To: Rebelbase

Yeah! Sign me up. I'll take 4 million spams a day for even a measly $1 billion!


45 posted on 11/18/2004 9:34:13 AM PST by TChris (You keep using that word. I don't think it means what yHello, I'm a TAGLINE vir)
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To: Terpfen
Windows isn't perfect--and I never said it was--but I can still do things with it that I can't on Linux...

Linux is the greatest thing since sliced bread for those of us in geekdom. However, for the masses, as you say, it has a long way to go. For starters, desktop users are going to have to have something better than X. The Xorg fork from XFree86 shows promise, but right now it is mostly just getting on its feet.

I will give Microsoft one thing, they vastly improved the windowed desktop system. Sadly, they layered it over mediocre crap, which accounts for the fact that it is all style and no substance. Too bad they take such a proprietary stance. If they opened up their architecture (if one could call it that), there is a massive user community out there to whip it into shape. Better yet, they could go the way Apple did and begin to integrate in tried-and-true open source operating system mechanisms. That way they could leverage the existing open source community to improve their product.

46 posted on 11/18/2004 9:55:10 AM PST by NCSteve
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To: NCSteve

Well, I consider myself a geek, just one who's more interested in the hardware side than the software. I don't know how to program, though I'm in the first of three Java classes for my CIS major. I can see why people like Linux, but it really just bothers me when it's pushed forward as something that's ready for Joe User and his grandparents--it isn't. It might be in a couple of years, but then Longhorn will come along and steal whatever ripples Linux could generate on the "hey, we're finally ready for average user" front.

I really am looking forward to the day when Linux becomes a true alternative, though. If nothing else, it will turn the heat up under Microsoft, resulting in a better Windows, which can only be a good thing.


47 posted on 11/18/2004 10:03:23 AM PST by Terpfen (Gore/Sharpton '08: it's Al-right!)
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To: Mike Bates
>>>>Should have used special service, which I use for all my lawsuits.

Special Service! When it absolutely, positively needs to jammed up somebody's @$$-hole!
48 posted on 11/18/2004 10:42:35 AM PST by .cnI redruM (Idiots so love to bury a god. - Charles Buckowski)
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To: angkor
Fair point. But I do emailing campaigns (opt-in, establish client stuff) for my business, so I send along an HTML formatted emails (allows for some color, graphics, etc.).

I can't do that from a web-based email service.

Thunderbird is very easy-to-use, powerful, and a lot better (IMHO) than using web-based email.

49 posted on 11/18/2004 11:09:06 AM PST by mattdono ("Crush the democrats, drive them before you, and hear the lamentations of the scumbags" -Big Arnie)
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To: stainlessbanner
Hey... maybe Bill actually likes to read them all.
50 posted on 11/18/2004 2:03:48 PM PST by TechJunkYard
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