I'm sure the good folks of Washington County (along the Ohio River and our southern border with W. Virginia) were really impressed with Kerry's goose-huntin' expedition here...
Posted on 11/18/2004 4:22:57 PM PST by Bonaventure
U.S. Sen. John Kerry gained 67 votes on President Bush in Washington County after local board of elections officials certified the final results from the Nov. 2 general election.
But the change in vote totals was not enough to alter the outcome of the presidential race in Washington County. President Bush won.
All other election results in Washington County also remained unchanged from the unofficial results released election night.
While the 67 votes Kerry gained in Washington County may allow him to chip into Bush's nearly 136,000 vote victory in Ohio, it likely won't change the outcome of the Buckeye State.
(Excerpt) Read more at mariettatimes.com ...
Like Kerry said on November 3rd... He can't win.
Not unless Ohio has 2,030 counties:)
I'm sure the good folks of Washington County (along the Ohio River and our southern border with W. Virginia) were really impressed with Kerry's goose-huntin' expedition here...
sKERRY IS SO FUNNY I COULD BARF!!!
Isn't a bit odd that only the Presidential counts changed? Or did I misread something?
IF..........IF...........IF........this OHIO provisional ballot counting is beyond hysterical.
Anyone know what the % of GWB/kerri split was on 11/2?? Is Washington County rat or Republican??
Kerry who?
Geez, will the counting ever be over?
My theory is that some people voting provisional or absentee probably only voted for President. Bush seems to have picked up about 270, and Kerry around 340. Either way, a change of a couple hundred out of around 30,000 votes is not much one way or another.
I don't know what system of voting this county uses, but in Florida when the punch cards were run through a second time, they always got diffferent numbers, than the original count. Something to do with dislodging chads that might have been loose but not completely punched through...I just remember the numbers bounced around a lot during the recounting of punch cards.
And in Richland County, "on Tuesday the board tallied 1,212 validated provisional ballots. On election day, 1,357 were cast, but 145 were ruled invalid when they were reviewed by the board last week. Of those, 28 were from voters registered in Richland County but casting votes in the wrong precinct, 92 were not registered in Richland County and 25 were not registered in another county as they claimed.
The presidential vote on those provisional ballots reflected almost exactly the percentages of the general vote, with 610 favoring President Bush and 578 going for Sen. John Kerry.
The final vote tallies for major Richland County races are:
President: George Bush, 36,881; John Kerry, 24,641."
isnt he that guy who went to Vietnam?
We ought to be hearing from "you know who" pretty soon.
good to know.
Good to know Kerry certainly will not gain enough votes to change the outcome of OH. But isnt this county unusual in that Kerry won the provisionals while losing the election day vote? I read that in other counties the provisionals seemed to mirror the regular results.
I read on the Plain Dealer website that in a few other counties at least 10% and as many as 30% of ballots were being rejected.
I don't think any provisional or absentee ballots use punch cards. Most of them use the ballots where you have to fill in an oval with No 2 pencil.
A lot of people can't follow the directions - they will do something like make a check mark with a red pen instead.
In our county, ballots that are rejected by the counting machines for reasons like that are transcribed by Election workers onto ballots that will be counted by the machines.
The tallies change, depending on how many ballots have been "corrected"
In Montgomery County, Ohio, the absentee ballots are punchcards. I know this is also true for Cuyahoga County, as well as most rural Ohio counties.
Isn't a bit odd that only the Presidential counts changed? Or did I misread something?
Interesting. What kind of a punch tool do the voters need to have?
We used to have punch cards at the precincts - but those ballots didn't have any perforated sections. You had to use the voting booth to punch them.
We're given a little punch tool (basically a key ring that terminated in a point) in the absentee mailing. The ballot comes with a styrofoam backing behind it so you don't mess up the ballot or stab yourself while voting. It's really very easy to use and very wonderfully low-tech. -- I don't understand why people get so incredibly bent out of shape about punch cards.
Thanks - I've never seen that system. Sounds cool.
I think people just got their knickers in a wad over punched cards because gore lost. We used to have punch card voting. The punch machines would fold up and get stored in a warehouse for the 2 years between elections.
Now, we have electronic voting. Computers need more than a bit more care than punch machines. I don't even want to think about how much more it cost to buy these machines and protect them between elections.
I don't think for a minute that the electronic system is more accurate than the punch card system.
The absentee ballots are actually the same as the normal ballots where I'm from (Mont. Co., Ohio). Same candidate/issues booklet too, just that it comes separately instead of being an integral part of the punch card station. Simple, good system with little technical proficiency required. I don't understand any great advantages of an electronic system.
"Bush won the county by a wide margin, about 58.3% to 41.7%." Is Washington County Rat or Pub? Which does it look like it is?
Washington County includes Marietta, where the covered wagons used to cross the Ohio and take the National Road west.
Hill country folk don't take kindly to outsiders, heathens and revenuers. Never have. Never will.
Struggling for an answer - electronic systems are good for the economy. They cost a lot to buy. They're computers, so they can't just be stored in a small unheated warehouse. The storage costs are higher.
They need tech support - high paying jobs, vs. the low paid temps who mostly care for voting systems.
Most important, they aren't what was used in FL in 2000.
You might be able to tell that I'm not a fan of spending all that money to get a voting system that isn't any more accurate than what we had before.
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