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Blue states pay the red states.....
Fortune ^ | Nov. 29th issue | Matt Miller

Posted on 11/18/2004 7:36:39 PM PST by Imnotalib

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To: Imnotalib
When you consider payrolls and operating costs paid with Federal taxes:

Most military bases/facilities are in red states

Most national parks are in red states.

Most NASA facilities are in red states

Most weapons testing facilities (Redstone Arsenal, China Lake, Yuma Proving Grounds, et al) are in red states

Most Native American reservations are in red states

Most(?) major manufacturers of military equipment and weapons systems (aircraft, vehicles, weapons) are in red states

Many Wash DC Federal employees live in red states, e.g. VA

Many Federal agencies have major facilities in red states, e.g. West VA (thank you Senator Byrd)

Most VA hospitals are in red states

Most defense contractors are in red states

Most retirees (military and civilian) live in red states

However:

Most crime centers are in blue states

Cities with the highest murder rate are in blue states

More drug addicts live in blue states

Most psychologists & psychiatrists are in blue states.

Most gangs are in red states

Most Middle Eastern immigrants live in blue states

Most public housing projects are in blue states

Most riots take place in blue states

Most "likely" potential terrorist targets are in blue states

The cultural symbols of the Great Satan are in New York, California and possibly Chicago, not Iowa, Alabama and South Dakota

I guess the Left can only think of welfare & income redistribution when they think of Federal taxes. They "paid" for those votes, and got ripped off by us ingrates.

41 posted on 11/18/2004 9:20:35 PM PST by Socrates1
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To: Socrates1

I know how we'll fix the problem: we can locate a military base in Manhattan, and another in LA. We need realistic training space for urban combat. We can seize a fair section of Beverly Hills by eminent domain--we need a good simulation for fighting in the mansions of corrupt Muslim despots, and a section of the Upper East Side for simulations of generic urban combat. The folks in the 'Big Apple' can wake up to the sound of artillery practice the way we do here in its namesake, Manhattan, KS.

We can move an airbase from the heartland into the Boston suburbs and another near Redmond, WA.

While we're at it, we can thin out the air-traffic control facilities in 'fly-over county' just to handle the traffic that actually stops here, start charging the Blue cities the natural price for food with the premium for market risk now absorbed by Federal agricultural subsidies passed on to the consumer, auction off the National Parks, National Forests, and ANWAR and distribute the sales proceeds to urbanite and start private development to increase the tax base out here in the sticks, and give a few Indian tribes back their ancestral lands in New England and the upper Midwest so the BIA can spend its budget there.

Now I'm going to find a thread on DU on the topic and post this there. (A few fewer demonRATS due to apoplexy?)


42 posted on 11/18/2004 10:15:34 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know what this was)
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To: Socrates1

I know how we'll fix the problem: we can locate a military base in Manhattan, and another in LA. We need realistic training space for urban combat. We can seize a fair section of Beverly Hills by eminent domain--we need a good simulation for fighting in the mansions of corrupt Muslim despots, and a section of the Upper East Side for simulations of generic urban combat. The folks in the 'Big Apple' can wake up to the sound of artillery practice the way we do here in its namesake, Manhattan, KS.

We can move an airbase from the heartland into the Boston suburbs and another near Redmond, WA.

While we're at it, we can thin out the air-traffic control facilities in 'fly-over county' just to handle the traffic that actually stops here, start charging the Blue cities the natural price for food with the premium for market risk now absorbed by Federal agricultural subsidies passed on to the consumer, auction off the National Parks, National Forests, and ANWAR and distribute the sales proceeds to urbanite and start private development to increase the tax base out here in the sticks, and give a few Indian tribes back their ancestral lands in New England and the upper Midwest so the BIA can spend its budget there.

Now I'm going to find a thread on DU on the topic and post this there. (A few fewer demonRATS due to apoplexy?)


43 posted on 11/18/2004 10:16:52 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know what this was)
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To: Imnotalib

Lemme see if I got this straight: because the 'blue' states pay more than 'red' states, they're somehow BETTER? Don't they claim that the REPUBLICANS are the party of the rich?

Second, going to the pointlessness: won't this statistic always show a bias against poorer states?

Third, going to the pointlessness: aren't these folks the big fans of redistribution anyway?

I could go on, but it'd continue to pointlessness.


44 posted on 11/18/2004 11:02:05 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (NO BLOOD FOR CHOCOLATE! Get the UN-ignoring, unilateralist Frogs out of Ivory Coast!)
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To: Imnotalib

If you combine data on voter preference by income level (from exit poll data) and percent of taxes paid by income level (income, payroll, and excise taxes from IRS data), you find that Bush voters pay 57% of the taxes and Kerry voters pay 42% of the taxes.

% of taxes paid
Under $15,000 - 1.2%
$15,000-$29,999 - 4.3%
$30,000-$49,999 - 11.0%
$50,000-$74,999 - 14.6%
$75,000-$99,999 - 13.9%
$100,000-$199,999 - 23.3%
$200,000 or more - 31.7%

% voting for Bush
Under $15,000 - 36%
$15,000-$29,999 - 42%
$30,000-$49,999 - 49%
$50,000-$74,999 - 56%
$75,000-$99,999 - 55%
$100,000-$199,999 - 57%
$200,000 or more - 63%

For each income level, multiplying (% of taxes paid) X (% voting for Bush), gives you

% of taxes paid by Bush voters
Under $15,000 - 0.4%
$15,000-$29,999 - 1.8%
$30,000-$49,999 - 5.4%
$50,000-$74,999 - 8.2%
$75,000-$99,999 - 7.6%
$100,000-$199,999 - 13.3%
$200,000 or more - 20.0%

For a total of 57% of taxes paid by Bush voters. You can do the same exercise for Kerry and see that he gets 42%.

Exit poll source: http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/states/US/P/00/epolls.0.html
Tax data source: http://www.house.gov/jct/x-2-01.pdf


45 posted on 11/19/2004 3:10:58 AM PST by The Numbers Guy
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To: Ed_in_NJ
"Actually, it was the lies, hate-mongering and fear-mongering of the rats that sent their sheeple into the 'psychic tailspin.'"
~Ed in NJ~

Right on target, Ed!

And these lying, hate-mongering, and fear-mongering Democrat leaders are still at it. They haven't learned anything from the backhanding that the American people gave them on November 2. And they cannot understand that lying, hate-mongering, and fear-mongering are a large part of what the American people mean by "moral values".

And the morons who believed all that Democrat propaganda and voted for John Kerry (of all people) are now headed to the shrink because they can't reconcile the lies, hate, and fear that their sociopathic leaders fed them with reality.

Your's is the best observation yet on the election. The Democrats' depravity defeated them and sent them to the psychotherapists.


46 posted on 11/19/2004 5:44:50 AM PST by Savage Beast (PEST-sufferers unite! --in North Korea! You'll get a big kick out of Kim Jon-il.)
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To: Savage Beast

Thanks!


47 posted on 11/19/2004 7:08:23 AM PST by Ed_in_NJ (Who killed Suzanne Coleman?)
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To: maine-iac7; Tench_Coxe

How long would LA survive if the tap on the Colorado was turned off?


48 posted on 11/19/2004 9:24:16 AM PST by Oztrich Boy ("The true character of liberty is independence, maintained by force". - Voltaire)
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How long would LA survive if the tap on the Colorado was turned off?

exactly - and who knows...the ring of fire has been getting pretty active lately.

Maybe one good shake will turn of the tap ;o)

49 posted on 11/19/2004 11:18:39 AM PST by maine-iac7 ( Pray without doubt..."Ask and you SHALL receive")
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To: randog

Dude, look at the map. Nevada is a tax giver and not a tax consumer state. You guys are basically allowing the Feds to do all this crap and not even get any extra. I think someone needs to have a talk with Harry Reid.


50 posted on 11/19/2004 8:47:12 PM PST by Classicaliberalconservative
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