Posted on 11/21/2004 6:16:48 AM PST by NYer
Gibson has given the world a timeless classic; a film that will endure forever, despite the ballyhooing Hollyweirdos.
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I don't think Gibson ought to submit this movie for the Oscars at all.
Knida of like winning the Nobel Peace Prize now.
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"The PASSION of the Christ"
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"WE WERE SOLDIERS"
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Don't forget, he already won Best Picture (and best director?) for Braveheart. I was completely astonished when that happened.
I can't wait to see the hatred on all the faces of those angry liberal hollyweird idots. I wonder how many hate speeches we will hear.
Considering that Mikey Mooreon's piece of garbage is likely to be nominated for Best Picture, I think we all know where Hollyweird stands on a good movie ever winning an award for anything.
Hey Ronnie, how are ya buddy?
Same here. Especially after the queer got tossed out of the window.
I find it all about as meaningful as our political campaigns anymore ... where that same Talent is trotted out either to Opinionate as necessary to cause a firestorm or, even worse, glorify or desecrate as required the very real lives and issues allegedly the purview of politics such as Cider House Rules ... or WORST OF ALL, used to play a "conservative" used to capture the governorship of Hollywood's own home state.
It's rather sad to live in the Age of the Fueilleton and just one more reason I truly admire Gibson's erring on the side of privacy where his personal opinions of politics and such are concerned.
since the end of the Middle Ages, intellectual life in Europe seems to have evolved alone two major lines. The first of these was the liberation of thought and belief from the sway of all authority. In practice this meant the struggle of Reason, which at last felt it had come of age and won its independence, against the domination of the Roman Church. The second trend, on the other hand, was the covert but passionate search for a means to confer legitimacy on this freedom, for a new and sufficient authority arising out of Reason itself. We can probably generalize and say that Mind has by and large won this often strangely contradictory battle for two aims basically at odds with each other. Has the gain been worth the countless victims? Has our present structure of the life of the mind been sufficiently developed, and is it likely to endure long enough, to justify as worthwhile sacrifices all the sufferings, convulsions, and abnormalities: the trials of heretics, the burnings at stake, the many "geniuses" who ended in madness or suicide? For us, it is not permissible to ask these questions. History is as it has happened. Whether it was good, whether it would have been better not to have happened, whether we will or will not acknowledge that it has had "meaning"--all this is irrelevant. Thus those struggles for the "freedom" of the human intellect likewise "happened," and subsequently, in the course of the aforementioned Age of the Feuilleton, men came to enjoy an incredible degree of intellectual freedom, more than they could stand. For while they had overthrown the tutelage of the Church completely, and that of the State partially, they had not succeeded in formulating an authentic law they could respect, a genuinely new authority and legitimacy. Ziegenhalss recounts some truly astonishing examples of the intellect's debasement, venality, and self-betrayal during that period. We must confess that we cannot provide an unequivocal definition of those products from which the age takes its name, the feuilletons. They seem to have formed an uncommonly popular section of the daily newspapers, were produced by the millions, and were a major source of mental pabulum for the reader in want of culture. They reported on, or rather "chatted' about, a thousand-and-one items of knowledge. It would seem, moreover, that the cleverer among the writers of them poked fun at their own work. Ziegenhalss, at any rate, contends that many such pieces are so incomprehensible that they can only be viewed as self-persiflage on the part of the authors. Quite possibly these manufactured articles do indeed contain a quantity of irony and self-mockery which cannot be understood until the key is found again. The producers of these trivia were in some cases attached to the staffs of the newspapers; in other cases they were free-lance scriveners. Frequently they enjoyed the high-sounding title of "writer," but a great many of them seem to have belonged to the scholar class. Quite a few were celebrated university professors. Among the favorite subjects of such essays were anecdotes taken from the lives or correspondence of famous men and women. They bore such titles as "Friedrich Nietzsche and Women's Fashions of 1870," or "The Composer Rossini's Favorite Dishes," or "The Role of the Lapdog in the Lives of Great Courtesans," and so on. Another popular type of article was the historical background piece on what was currently being talked about among the well-to-do, such as "The Dream of Creating Gold Through the Centuries," or "Physico-chemical Experiments in Influencing the Weather," and hundreds of similar subjects. When we look at the titles that Ziegenhalss cites, we feel surprise that there should have been people who devoured such chitchat for their daily reading; but what astonishes us far more is that authors of repute and of decent education should have helped to "service" this gigantic consumption of empty whimsies. Significantly, "service" was the expression used; it was also the word denoting the relationship of man to the machine at that time. In some periods interviews with well-known personalities on current problems were particularly popular. Ziegenhalss devotes a separate chapter to these. Noted chemists or piano virtuosos would be queried about politics, for example, or popular actors, dancers, gymnasts, aviators, or even poets would be drawn out on the benefits and drawbacks of being a bachelor, or on the presumptive causes of financial crises, and so on. All that mattered in these pieces was to link a well-known name with a subject of current topical interest. The reader may consult Ziegenhalss for some truly startling examples; he gives hundreds. As we have said, no doubt a goodly dash of irony was mixed in with all this busy productivity; it may even have been a demonic irony, the irony of desperation--it is very hard indeed for us to put ourselves in the place of those people so that we can truly understand them. But the great majority, who seem to have been strikingly fond of reading, must have accepted all these grotesque things with credulous earnestness. If a famous painting changed owners, if a precious manuscript was sold at auction, if an old palace burned down, if the bearer of an aristocratic name was involved in a scandal, the readers of many thousands of feature articles at once learned the facts. What is more, on that same day or by the next day at the latest they received an additional dose of anecdotal, historical, psychological, erotic, and other stuff on the catchword of the moment. A torrent of zealous scribbling poured out over every ephemeral incident, and in quality, assortment, and phraseology all this material bore the mark of mass goods rapidly and irresponsibly turned out. |
Herman Hesse (from introduction to "The Glass Bead Game")
as posted within Will Hollywood Actors Become Extinct in our Life time?
A torrent of zealous scribbling poured out over every ephemeral incident, and in quality, assortment, and phraseology all this material bore the mark of mass goods rapidly and irresponsibly turned out.
Just another reason Gibson's film doesn't belong among the Rove-ish propaganda or casually immoral and often wholly gratuitously "bloodsoaked" images and stories used to shock, amuse and sex the masses.
Micheal Moore director of the year, best screenplay, and best documentary, but will lose best picture.
The movie has stood on its own merit without the support or backing from Hollywood.
Why would the Oscars be any different?
"The Passion" has little to gain commercially from Oscar recognition "
In fact I would be tickled if Passion did not win and Monster Moore's F911 wins something. The left has been playing the wrong cards for 4 years now and I say "Why change things?".
The Soviets' system was moronic for years and it finally broke-with a little help from Ronaldus Maximus mind you. Nevertheless, it's own weight was a large part of it's own demise. There is a great parralell with Liberalism. Let them show the Center what an amoral pile of sickos the left is filled with. Let them do our work for us.
The "Passion" is one of the greatest pieces of cinematic art ever made. With the greatest story to tell. It will be around for years, if not centuries.
especially after that UGLY scene when Michael Moore accepted for winning Bowling for Columbine a couple of years ago.
Oh but it's only ugly if you are a ultra-extremist-radical-fundamentalist living in Jesusland. In Hollweird it was no big deal.
Me too...
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