Skip to comments.Again: Chileans Offend Bush
Posted on 11/21/2004 8:46:42 AM PST by LouAvul
Hours after President Bush dove into a fracas to rescue his lead Secret Service agent from a confrontation with Chilean security officials, word surfaced of another security dispute. This time, an elaborate state dinner Sunday night was the casualty.
The dinner planned for Bush and 200 others by Chilean President Ricardo Lagos was reportedly scrapped after Chile was unwilling to accept security measures sought by the U.S. Secret Service, including a demand that all guests pass through metal detectors.
Leading Chilean newspaper El Mercurio reported that the disagreement led Bush and Lagos to instead hold a small "social dinner" with a handful of aides from each side.
On Saturday night, Chilean security barred Bush's bodyguards from accompanying the president into a dinner for Asia-Pacific leaders. As a pushing and shoving match ensued, Bush strode over to the melee, reached into the group and pulled mustachioed agent Nick Trotta out by the lapel and into the dinner.
Trotta has been taking good-natured ribbing for having to be rescued by the man he's charged with protecting.
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I couldn't agree more, Lou.
I certainly hope the USSS has taken this seriously. This should have never happened, It really gets me tight to see this cheap crap. It's like they are testing the water's as how far things an be pushed. Don't like it, Just Don't like it!
Trotta has been taking good-natured ribbing for having to be rescued by the man he's charged with protecting.
Wow...talk about a story to tell everyone back home...
...Now where have I heard that before?
Shouldn't he have gone to the UN for global approval before rescuing his SS agent?
There's something that should be stated clearly on one of these threads.
When the Free Trade Agreement of the Americas (FTAA) is completely implemented, these yahoo nations in Central and South America will be given the right to help determine our nation's policies.
The FTAA is the second step toward something the equivelant of the E.U., only it will be the A.U.
People better start waking up and speaking out in objection to this nonsense. Our nation's interests are best determined by the citizens of the United States, not some trade or governance tribunal filled 90% by people who do not answer to us in any manor.
On Saturday night, Chilean security barred Bush's bodyguards from accompanying the president into a dinner for Asia-Pacific leaders. As a pushing and shoving match ensued, Bush strode over to the melee, reached into the group and pulled mustachioed agent Nick Trotta out by the lapel and into the dinner.Can you imagine a Clinton or a Kerry even caring enough to know that one of their security detal were in trouble, let alone "rescue" him personally?
Ok - I'll put my tin foil hat on. But attempts to interfere with security arrangements for the President worry me and make me deeply suspicious.
1) Chile has been drifting left.
2) They had an estimated 40,000 protestors in the street over the last few days.
3) These street protestors focused on Bush in their shouts and signs.
4) How could anyone in the Chilean government not be worried over security at a dinner or social mixer?
5) If the Chileans wouldn't allow a metal detector to be put in place, they must not be concerned over security.
Response: The Third Worlders smell a kill. I had one little hispanic lawyerette tell me "We are taking over."
Comment: Love, tolerance, the big tent, room at the table, discussion, debate, expression of different points of view, equality, equal opportunity are all symptoms of our decrepitude, such ideas are not manifestations of life and growth.
You are walking on the fighting side of a Texan, when you pick on his body guard-fools!!!! A Texans bodyguard is for your protection. What part of "Don't mess with Texas", do you idiots not understand??????
It does have an odd smell, don't it?
You're not the only one with the tin foil. I had the same suspicion
I believe these piss-ant countries would never push this far without the open support of ex-presidents and elected officials who attack George W. Bush viciously in public, before world organizations. Count Jimmah "Peace With Terrorists" Carter, Bubba Clinton, and Teddy "Can She Float" Kennedy among these back-stabbing, traitorous men.
I have watched Trotta and other Secret Service agents guard and watch over President Bush, especially during the campaign. They not only do a terrific job, the love the guy. Just look at their faces, how focused they are when he is out shaking hands and such. The eyes and facial features tell the whole story.
Security details for events like this are put in place months in advance of the events. Too many questions...did Chile pledge security and then pull it?
How about the leaders from the other countries (Australia, Brunei, Canada, Chile, China, Chinese Hong Kong, Indonesia, Japan, South Korea, Malaysia, Mexico, New Zealand, Papua New Guinea, Peru, Philippines, Russia, Singapore, Chinese Taipei, Thailand, Vietnam)? Did they agree that 200 others be let in without proper security precautions?
I think Chile tried to pull a fast one.
Kerry would have told his BG-"IT'S EVERY MAN FOR HIMSELF-AH-I-i-I-I-E-E-E!!!!!!" And to the Chilean Gestapho, "Do you know whose husband I am-Te-e-e-e-e-e-s-a-a-a-a-a-h-h-h-h-h-h!!!!!!!!!!!"
They all want to replace our Constitutional Republic with their Socialist agenda. Just like FRANCE!!!
You gotta love this President.
With that said, he needs to get the hell out of there if they dont take his security seriously.
Repost my earlier comment on another thread:
I keep thinking of Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid.
" I think Chile tried to pull a fast one."
Before I can offer a response, a little more clarification is in order.
After thirteen years of bilateral conversations and two of negotiations, the U.S. Chile Free Trade Agreement entered into force on January 1, 2004. On that date, tariffs on 90% of U.S. exports to Chile and 95% of Chilean exports to the United States were eliminated. Chile is currently ranked as the 36th largest export market for the United States.
U.S. Exports to Chile
- In the three months following the entry into force of the U.S.-Chile Free Trade Agreement, total U.S. exports to Chile increased by 24 percent compared to the same period of 2003, growing from $617.29 million to $766.79 million. This compares favorably to an increase of 13 percent in U.S. exports to the world in the first quarter of 2004.
- U.S. exports of manufactured goods to Chile increased by 19.5 percent January/March 2004, from $570.9 million to $682.3 million. Particularly strong growth was registered in exports of construction equipment, medical equipment, and paper.
- Exports of U.S. agricultural goods grew 22.6 percent from $22.66 million to $27.77 million.
The real story is this is unusual. Few other presidents, if any at all, would have done this.. its so apolitical.. Cudos to the shrub...
Maybe I've been a little too hard on the man that carries Alfred E. Neumans likeness.. I'm willing to take it all back some of the things I've said.. If he turns into a junk yard dog in the Capitol.. Cause if one thing is needed in the next four years in the Capitol. The democrats must get mauled.. and savaged like a burgular in the living room.. If he sends Laura to do it, thats OK too, but that would make him a junk yard CAT...
By the way, what ever happened to Sandy Burgular..?
Is he in JAIL YET.?...
What about the advance work? What I can't understand is why that wasn't all handled well in advance of Bush's going there. Typically, all the detail is ironed out by the security personnel from both countriese. It seems there has been a major lapse in presiential security that is unacceptable and it can't ALL be placed at the feet of the Chileans. If they had refused this level of security during the planning sessions, the trip could have been canceled, without this big brouhaha.
An agreement with a single state isn't the same as an agreement that sets up a body of governance between multiple states.
Trade is good as long as it is beneficial to both states, but more importantly to our nation.
Oh yea. Sandy Burgular. This guys name should posted daily & often. Justice must be served.
I agree. I would have thought all of the protocol would have been worked out in excruciating detail in advance.
I agree, if Chili wants to see the end of themselves, if they are that suicidal to risk the life of our popular president then they are obviously insane and need to be delt with in another manner more suiting their mental derangment.
The idiots need to realize they are in the same hemisphere, Americans can mobilize in a nano second and head their way, flags flying, and very determined to attain payback.
It is worrisome. Still, Lots of good can come from this. I imagine the bond between He and his security is tighter then ever. HE showed more regard for them then his own saftey...I'm feeling prouder then ever. :)
Clearly stated on this thread: All specifics of a treaty must be passed by congress, signed off by the president before it becomes law. The yahoos to our south have NOT been given any legal right to determine or nations policies.
You couldn't be more wrong with your statement about "third-worlders."
Phelps Dodge link to south American Mines. Check out Chile.
Phelps Dodge is an American international mineral resource and industrial manufacturing company with a proud history dating from 1834.
I could type all day about global industrialization however time is limited today. So I will give you one more tip.
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The past few years have been very good for "third-worlders" and investors. Those dividends pay many 401k's maybe yours.
The question is what was the Bush message to Chile?
One more thing:
Let's take a look at why mining stock are up.
Dollar's declining value economists and budget hawks fear that rising deficits are contributing to the steadily declining value of the dollar, which will increase consumer costs, and that those deficits eventually will drive up interest rates and slow the economy.
Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan and Snow have both called in the past for Congress to eliminate the debt ceiling, noting lawmakers determine the amount of debt that must be sold when they approve government spending measures.
WOW! Great Idea Alan...NOT!
Well, it looks like the spending will continue and copper and gold will rise and your dollar will buy less. However it is all part of the business cycle and if your invested correctly you will be OK.
I will be watching Congress looking for whispers of spending controls.
There is only one thing to do, "UNLEASH PINOCHET!!"
As previously stated, the FTAA is merely a stepping stone to an American Union. You don't have to buy into that. I don't really care.
The FTAA will itself give other nations through it's governing body, the ability to affect everything from tax policies to employment practices to health and safety issues.
Yes our Congress does have to sign off on this. Unfortunately, it has shown it's proclivity to parcel away self-governance on a number of occassions.
Thank you for the post.
'Cudos to the shrub...'
How very DU of you, BTW it's Kudos dolt.
Adds a whole new meaning to "Don't Mess With Texas".
Then I would have to wear that tin foil too. Some thing's not right in Chile and I'll be glad when W's back on American soil
I agree. They seem to be going out of their way to interfere with the President's security, and expose him to possible harm.
your Barney Fifeness,, I like Cudos..
Never been to "DU", ...... YOU?....
Well thats your one bullet.. MISSED.. NYAH...