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Bush to Arrogant Chileans: Hands Off My Guards
Newsmax.com | Nov. 21, 2004

Posted on 11/21/2004 9:55:13 AM PST by ArmyBratproud

In an extraordinary display of physical bravado, President Bush personally overrode Chilean security officials Saturday night who were blocking his Secret Service bodyguards from accompanying him to a state dinner in Santiago.

As Bush stepped inside the cultural center where the dinner was held, Chilean agents closed ranks at the door, blocking the president's agents from following, according to the Associated Press.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: apec; bush43; usss
Bush is out reliving his Rugby days when he would walk into a crowd and kick somebody's .....
1 posted on 11/21/2004 9:55:13 AM PST by ArmyBratproud
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To: ArmyBratproud

are there any video's of our beloved President kicking some butt?? I've only seen still photo's. Thanks


2 posted on 11/21/2004 10:01:30 AM PST by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: God luvs America

A good, concise video link is at http://www.foxreno.com/news/3937064/detail.html#

...just click the link under the photo. (It's a pop-up video window-- disable any pop-up protector first.) A brief ad plays, then boom: you're in the action.


3 posted on 11/21/2004 10:03:56 AM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast (You're it)
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To: God luvs America

Watch the cable news channels...I'm sure they will run it.

It is not as big as they make it out to be.

Bush walked over...parted some waters.

He looked better that Presidential....He looked Texan!


4 posted on 11/21/2004 10:06:18 AM PST by ArmyBratproud (Ashcroft and Evans served us well....Can't Thank them enough)
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To: ArmyBratproud

Were the Chileans arrogant? Maybe this is a sign of extremely high security there.


5 posted on 11/21/2004 10:07:17 AM PST by Vision ("When you trust in yourself, you're trusting in the same wisdom that created you")
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To: God luvs America

Are there reports out as to WHY the Chilean police were blocking Bush's security detail from entering the building? I've heard lots of recounts of this whole thing, have seen the footage replayed several times, but as yet have not heard anyone explain what was really going on, and why the Chilean police were doing this.


6 posted on 11/21/2004 10:07:54 AM PST by Rosie405
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To: God luvs America

FOX news has shone the fracus several times. It was great to see how he handle this event.


7 posted on 11/21/2004 10:08:54 AM PST by hambran
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To: ArmyBratproud

WOW....That's why people elected bush. He's a real man that know's how to get things done, even if he has to get his own hands dirty. I wonder what the french poodle jean-francois kerry would have done? Called the UN?


8 posted on 11/21/2004 10:09:33 AM PST by jakerobins
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To: Rosie405

Rumor is the cooks only had appetizers for 47


9 posted on 11/21/2004 10:09:43 AM PST by Xcoastie (If you think education is expensive, try ignorance)
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To: ArmyBratproud
HERE'S A GOOD PIC
10 posted on 11/21/2004 10:13:01 AM PST by ArmyBratproud (Ashcroft and Evans served us well....Can't Thank them enough)
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To: ArmyBratproud
Bush to Arrogant Chileans: Hands Off My Guards

In an extraordinary display of physical bravado, President Bush personally overrode Chilean security officials Saturday night who were blocking his Secret Service bodyguards from accompanying him to a state dinner in Santiago.

As Bush stepped inside the cultural center where the dinner was held, Chilean agents closed ranks at the door, blocking the president's agents from following, according to the Associated Press.

While posing inside for pictures with Chilean President Ricardo Lagos and his wife, Luisa Duran, Bush noticed that a shoving match had erupted between his security team and the Chilean guards.

Confronting the Chilean guards head-on, Bush returned to the door and reached through group to pull his agent from the scrum and into the building.

Looking annoyed, Bush proceeded to straighten his shirt cuffs and returned to the dinner.

"Chilean security tried to stop the president's Secret Service from accompanying him," White House deputy press secretary Claire Buchan told the AP. "He told them they were with him and the issue was resolved."

The presidential altercation was widely broadcast on Chilean TV.

Bush was in Chile for the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation summit.

11 posted on 11/21/2004 10:14:33 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: jakerobins

Kerry would have ran, hidden, and asked for a purple heart.


I saw at that Clinton LIEbrary...he had someone holding his umbrella for him as he walked around.

what a punk.


12 posted on 11/21/2004 10:14:48 AM PST by ArmyBratproud (Ashcroft and Evans served us well....Can't Thank them enough)
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To: ArmyBratproud

I LOVE 'W'

HOWEVER, to make it sound like he rode on his white horse and rescued a damsel in distress is FOOLISH.

He just pulled the Chilean Agent to get his attention, who was NOT stopping the American Agent because he is arrogant, but because in South-America, an American President is always in 'more' danger than any other place (except for middle east), and especially for an un-popular President, that risk even goes higher and every one is anxious.

That guy was simply doing his job.


13 posted on 11/21/2004 10:16:37 AM PST by The_Republican
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To: ArmyBratproud

BTTT


14 posted on 11/21/2004 10:17:45 AM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: ArmyBratproud

I love the Chileans, but these guys were a--holes.


15 posted on 11/21/2004 10:17:51 AM PST by Clemenza (Gabba Gabba Hey!)
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To: Vision

No, this sounds like arrogance or incompetence, probably on the part of Chili. These things are usually ironed out way in advance.


16 posted on 11/21/2004 10:20:01 AM PST by Tribune7
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To: ArmyBratproud
"He looked better that Presidential....He looked Texan!"

Absolutely!

17 posted on 11/21/2004 10:20:50 AM PST by lormand (Dead People Vote DemocRAT)
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To: ArmyBratproud

Bush is my hero.

John


18 posted on 11/21/2004 10:22:05 AM PST by jrfaug06
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To: God luvs America
It's been on all morning on the Cable channels. Fox is still showing it off and on and have really discussed it.

There is a separate thread about this where I have commented. It was on Drudge last night late. I emailed all my friends and family and advised them to click on the article.\

But if you haven't seen the video you have missed a Real sight.

All I can say to all of you, as I stated in my emails last night, 'What a MAN'!!!!!!

Frannie
















Frannie
19 posted on 11/21/2004 10:23:50 AM PST by frannie (I REPEAT --THE TRUTH WILL SET US ALL FREE--)
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To: ArmyBratproud
This occurs at a state dinner?

The only way this could have been anymore embarrassing, is if this turned into what happened in the basketball game the other night.

This is like something that would happen at a drug dealers convention.

Is there no planning that goes into these events for the leader of the free world? Or does everyone just show up?

LOL!

20 posted on 11/21/2004 10:27:42 AM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: ArmyBratproud

I saw the photo(s) of the incident and I saw the eyes of one of the Chilean police officer eyes on the aol picture , and he seem to me to have assassin eyes.

I think deep inside that this event was a assassination attempt. Taking the S.S. out and away from our President would of left him alone and open.

This is what I feel. I think it would be a good idea to get out of Chile as soon as possible. I have a bad feeling about this.


21 posted on 11/21/2004 10:28:25 AM PST by Orlando (www.mensnewsdaily.com, www.mensactivism.org (Support Fathers/Veteran Rights)
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To: ArmyBratproud
He looked better that Presidential....He looked Texan!

Oh yeah! he's the Man.

The little indicators that pop up and tell the metal of the man...

copy/pasted/emailed to everyone.

waiting for the "Bush creates International faux pas" crappola

22 posted on 11/21/2004 10:28:36 AM PST by maine-iac7 ( Pray without doubt..."Ask and you SHALL receive")
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast
...just click the link under the photo.

A forewarning for folks who might want to click the link...you need RealPlayer which is spyware extraordinaire. I won't have it on my PC. Just a note to folks who don't want it either.

23 posted on 11/21/2004 10:31:22 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (May the wings of Liberty never lose so much as a feather.)
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To: lormand

In other news.....I am watching NBC and they just showed an on board camera view of a NASCAR Driver spinning off the track into the in field.

I'm not impressed. Looks like any weekday morning or afternoon on 635 in Dallas.


24 posted on 11/21/2004 10:34:00 AM PST by ArmyBratproud (Ashcroft and Evans served us well....Can't Thank them enough)
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To: Orlando
I think deep inside that this event was a assassination attempt. Taking the S.S. out and away from our President would of left him alone and open.

this is exactly how it would go down - who knows what plans Bush may have foiled - we will never know -

One thing Bush knows: he has had the biggest bullseye on him than anyone world wide - and it just got a lot bigger with the election - with the inside enemy at the top of the assassination list of characters.

Let's don't forget skeerry's involvement in the group that was planning the assassination of senators back in the 70's. These people are still around - many in high level positions now.

It wouldn't be the first pres. to be assassinated by opposition 'forces" - EVEN of their own party. If they'll take out one of thier own, how much more dedicated to an oppositon pres.

25 posted on 11/21/2004 10:38:02 AM PST by maine-iac7 ( Pray without doubt..."Ask and you SHALL receive")
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To: Orlando

Look at image(pic) number 2 and #3 on aol news :

http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/news/article.adp?id=20041121054009990005

Look closely at his eyes, and what do you think ?


26 posted on 11/21/2004 10:38:52 AM PST by Orlando (www.mensnewsdaily.com, www.mensactivism.org (Support Fathers/Veteran Rights)
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To: ArmyBratproud
Kerry would have ran, hidden, and asked for a purple heart.

Right, and if there was an actual security problem Bush had the guts to walk right into the middle of it. Though that does make me nervous its just the kind of man he is.

27 posted on 11/21/2004 10:41:12 AM PST by No Blue States
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To: Orlando

As far as I'm concerned, you are right on target, Orlando.
President Bush absolutely did the right thing in this situation. I feel some attempt on him may have been averted by his swift actions. My hope is he gets out of there soon.


28 posted on 11/21/2004 10:45:24 AM PST by luvmysuv
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To: luvmysuv

I agree. Get our President OUT ASAP !!!


29 posted on 11/21/2004 10:49:23 AM PST by Orlando (www.mensnewsdaily.com, www.mensactivism.org (Support Fathers/Veteran Rights)
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To: ArmyBratproud

Some twit on CNN was claiming that Bush had to "plead" for his agent to be released.


30 posted on 11/21/2004 10:50:38 AM PST by expatguy (Fallujah Delenda Est!!)
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To: ArmyBratproud

What a guy.


31 posted on 11/21/2004 10:51:03 AM PST by freekitty
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To: Tribune7

ok


32 posted on 11/21/2004 10:51:44 AM PST by Vision ("When you trust in yourself, you're trusting in the same wisdom that created you")
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To: Orlando

That's exactly what I thought!!


33 posted on 11/21/2004 10:55:41 AM PST by Jank
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To: expatguy
Some twit on CNN was claiming that Bush had to "plead" for his agent to be released.

Pleading TEXAS style - physically into the melee -

34 posted on 11/21/2004 10:56:40 AM PST by maine-iac7 ( Pray without doubt..."Ask and you SHALL receive")
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To: Orlando
"I saw the eyes of one of the Chilean police officer eyes on the aol picture , and he seem to me to have assassin eyes."...."This is what I feel"...." I have a bad feeling about this."



lol.......thanks for the entertaining post. Life would be so boring without the foil hat brigade.
35 posted on 11/21/2004 10:57:43 AM PST by monday
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To: ArmyBratproud
In an extraordinary display of physical bravado, President Bush personally overrode Chilean security officials Saturday night who were blocking his Secret Service bodyguards from accompanying him to a state dinner in Santiago.

Please. This was not an 'extraordinary display of physical bravado'.

36 posted on 11/21/2004 10:59:59 AM PST by Pahuanui (When a foolish man hears of the Tao, he laughs out loud)
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To: God luvs America

Video of Bush pulling Secret Service Agent away from the Chilean security agents, trying to stop him from getting in:

Go to this page, and click on the video icon:

http://teletrece.canal13.cl/

It's a 45 min video -- Bush's arrival starts at minute 18 and it goes for a few minutes.


37 posted on 11/21/2004 11:03:00 AM PST by FairOpinion (Thank you Swifties, POWs & Vets. We couldn't have done it without you.)
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To: Rosie405

In role reversal, president rescues Secret Service agent

http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20041120-113709-8651r.htm

Good detailed description in above article. The Chileans were just being nasty -- at the expense of the security of the President of the US.

"The Secret Service source, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, said the president's security detail and that the Chileans had argued about security procedures all day and that he wasn't surprised to see last night's skirmish unfold.

The Chileans, he said, were determined to take charge of security, but the president of the United States is the only world leader who takes his bodyguards with him wherever he goes. Normally, foreign countries defer to that demand. The Chilean security detail resisted, the source said, and was determined to take a stand at the dinner.
"That's what the argument this afternoon was about," he said. "I saw this coming."

Chilean security knew that the Secret Service always accompanies the president and knows how to identify them by the pins on their lapels, the source said, but blocked them anyway. "
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And a follow up, showing that the Chileans refuse to allow the necessary security precautions here:

***President Of Chile Cancels Guests Because Of USSS Demands: GWB BACKS THE USSS***

"The newspaper, citing high-level Chilean sources, said Chile was unwilling to accept security measures sought by the US secret service for today's official dinner in Santiago's ornate presidential palace.

The measures included a demand that all guests for the official dinner pass through metal detectors at the La Moneda palace, but the demand was rejected by Lagos, the newspaper and radio reports said.

Chilean media said the state dinner had been planned for 200 guests. About 20 will attend the working dinner, to be held in Lagos' private dining room in the same building. "

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We can't put our President at risk, to accomodate the delusions of the Chileans. Shame on them. All it takes is one mistake for an irrevocable tragedy to occur.


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1285249/posts


38 posted on 11/21/2004 11:09:31 AM PST by FairOpinion (Thank you Swifties, POWs & Vets. We couldn't have done it without you.)
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To: Orlando
I agree, first thing I thought of was an assassination attempt. Just as you said, first get the security guards out of the way. Also next day a dinner has to be scrapped because the Chilean's won't agree to security. Was the follow up attempt to take place at the dinner?

SANTIAGO, Chile -- President George W. Bush's hosts in Chile have scrapped plans for an elaborate formal dinner Sunday night in what local media say was a dispute over security.

A Santiago newspaper reports the Secret Service insisted that the 200 invited guests go through metal detectors, but Chilean President Ricardo Lagos wouldn't agree. Instead, the event will be a private working dinner for the two leaders and top aides. White House officials confirm the change of plans but won't say if security was an issue.

39 posted on 11/21/2004 11:20:14 AM PST by protest1
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To: ArmyBratproud

wouldn't be surprised if he lost lots of cardiac tissue
during his ordeal with heart disease. He may not be able
to muster much energy anymore. If you never see photo-ops
of him doing anything energetic it is very possible is that
he doesn't have the cardiac reserve anymore. Look for
staged events. I notice that most of his recent
appearances are rather sedentary in nature.


40 posted on 11/21/2004 11:21:04 AM PST by Getready ((...Fear not ...))
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To: protest1

Can somebody please post images number 2 and 3 from aol news ? Please

Thanks protest1 and your 100% right !


41 posted on 11/21/2004 11:29:34 AM PST by Orlando (www.mensnewsdaily.com, www.mensactivism.org (Support Fathers/Veteran Rights)
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To: No Blue States

Right, after Kerry wrote his own after action report.


42 posted on 11/21/2004 11:31:58 AM PST by Parley Baer
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
"you need RealPlayer which is spyware extraordinaire. I won't have it on my PC. Just a note to folks who don't want it either."

You're given the choice of Realplayer or Windows Media Player formats.
43 posted on 11/21/2004 2:20:58 PM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast (You're it)
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast
You're given the choice of Realplayer or Windows Media Player formats.

Really? I don't see it. Is the choice available before or after I click on the link that says "Bush Secret Service scuffle" just below the pic? The popup I get gives no such choice.

44 posted on 11/21/2004 2:29:32 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (May the wings of Liberty never lose so much as a feather.)
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To: Rosie405

I saw a report in Spanish on Chilean television that said that only the heads of state themselves were permitted to pass through that particular door, and that the security detail was supposed to go through a different door, on the side. However, they had been arguing about this all day, because Chilean security did not want to permit any entry at all to the security of any of the other countries in attendance; I think an agreement had probably been reached to let the US security pass, and the Chileans, either out of confusion or out of malice, suddenly decided to stop them.

IIRC, at the time of the Olympics, the Greeks tried to prevent US security from being armed. (They didn't get away with it, of course.)


45 posted on 11/21/2004 2:35:18 PM PST by livius
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To: ArmyBratproud

We know what would have happened. He'd flee down the river and once it was all under control would come back blame everyone who fixed it and then claim credit and hold a big press conference and tell us all how swell he was.

Man am I glad I don't have to see that for the next 4 years.


46 posted on 11/21/2004 2:36:52 PM PST by festus (Old growth timbers make the best campfires....)
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To: Orlando

This area is for AOL members only. My AOL provides members with the ability to get personalized content and features from AOL all on one page. My AOL lets members customize news, sports and weather; get local movies, TV and event information; access Mail, Portfolio, Alerts and more.

Although you have a valid Screen Name and password, you are not an AOL member.


47 posted on 11/21/2004 2:53:12 PM PST by Rain-maker
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
"Really? I don't see it. Is the choice available before or after I click on the link that says "Bush Secret Service scuffle" just below the pic? The popup I get gives no such choice."

The site sets a cookie on your system once you've made a selection. You won't see the preference-selector again after that. To change your preference, click on the video link and, when the player comes up, click the button labeled "Customize your Player".
48 posted on 11/21/2004 3:22:31 PM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast (You're it)
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To: ArmyBratproud
In an extraordinary display of physical bravado

leave it to newsmax to understate. before you flame, please see my other posts on the original threads.

49 posted on 11/21/2004 3:31:46 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (if a man lives long enough, he gets to see the same thing over and over.)
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast
"Customize your Player".

Thanks. The problem was with my Firefox browser. The customize choice never shows. When I use IE it shows all the extra garbage in the popup window.

Did you hear The President?
"Get your hands off him!"

Great stuff. I wish I could have him over to my place on Super Bowl Sunday to watch the Patriots kick somebody's ass. I'll bet he's a hoot with a couple of beers in him.

50 posted on 11/21/2004 4:46:10 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (May the wings of Liberty never lose so much as a feather.)
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