Posted on 11/21/2004 11:45:29 AM PST by TapTheSource
Not also counting our NUKE SUBS , some armed with 24 silos of missiles.
Or Florida.
I was not speaking of military applications per se, I was speaking in general IT, high tech prowess. China is rolling in cash. Just because they don't share it with their billion plus people doesn't mean they don't have it. Practically everything you buy today(except food) is made in China, or somewhere in Asia, due to cheap labor. As for high tech, go to any electronics store in Malaysia, and you will see gadgets we don't even have yet.They had touch tone and plasma/hdtv more than 3 years before us. The average American doesn't know this because they don't travel much.
sure, but they are not gonna do it now, they will do it after the 2008 Beijing Olympics, in the meantime, look for rapid modernization and technologization of their armed forces.
Sound familiar???
Informative link.
Ty
"I found it odd - that once China was not held to human rights violations - all the voices speaking out on the other actions by China(South China Sea) fell silent. Money buys a lot these days"
You nailed it. That's why Red China is starting to throw its money around Latin America. This is madness, and we need to put a stop to our wishful thinking about the Eurasian Alliance, sooner rather than later.
International chess in some ways, and a global trading power struggle in another.
China is the new competition, but we have seen it coming for a long,long time.
I guess that is why I am not voicing any alarms. But we do need to stay fine tuned and "up on the wheel", so to speak.
They will take advantage of any weaknesses, real or perceived. I would not expect any less from them.
One day, it may come to pass that the situation goes critical mass, but that could happen with anyone at any time these days.
America is going to be "THE" target, no matter what.
They're sending their advanced invasion force over piecemeal. Haiti, Panama, Mexico. A little here, a little there, and before you know it - D DAY! And I wonder how much in bribes and DNC donations they paid to sneak truckloads of guns and ammunition over the border into Mexico while Clinton was in office.
"I don't think Taiwan is worth a drop of American blood. As far as I am concerned they (the Chinese) can have it."
Your thinking very much matches the thinking in our State Dept...and it's the very same reason why most of our allies no longer trust us.
What about nanotech or fusion, if they're workable as conceptualized? Those are really the only imminent technologies that seem like they would pose an actual military threat. A three year lead on HDTV and touch tone aren't exactly dire threats..
I don't see any sign of China likely to surpass America in the tech fields that actually matter. Space tech is another, and China isn't even close. Are there any I'm missing?
Most of these things are little more than a function of economic investment, anyhow, and for all our problems we still have a far more powerful economy than does China.
I also tend to agree with the person who thinks China is more likely to collapse into civil war (or an economic bust) long before it can become a global superpower.
Response: One of the factors determining the reopening of manufactures shall be the interim loss of "know how." I have seen this effect first hand.
How do you think he balanced the budget?
With what money, is the problem. The Chinese defense budget is (literally) one-tenth that of the United States, and it's been cut by nearly 10% over the last few years, partly as a result of expanding Chinese budget deficits. If they were to embark on a crash militarization program, they'd have to do it sooner rather than later, because the longer they wait, the less likely their own people are to sit still for it.
We will see No Korea implode in the next few years followed by the great Chinese totalitarian 'democratic republic'. It will be ugly. We are encircling China via Japan, Taiwan, India, even Russia, etc. We are keeping them contained and they know it. Economically their situation is fragile, the yuan is crap for example. Politically we all know how a rigid communist system can unravel in a hurry. Bush knows all this and in ratcheting up the pressure on No Korea who will soon crumble. Talk about a weak link!
In 3,000 years China has NOOOO history of foreign conquest- none- all this fearful speculation of a military threat to anyone but their immediate neighbors is ludicrous. Historically China has NO history of long distance aggression much less massive attacks around the world. For them it's always about their borders, pushing their neighbors around, seizing territory, immediate security needs.
It serves their interests to put it out on the street that they're big bad and ready to dominate the world. Psych warfare. This is a frightened country historically after umpteen invasions and occupations by foreign powers. It's part of the famous Chinese penchant for tough negotiations and pursuing a moving target. If China dares to attack us (they will not) we will incinerate them and they know this. They are nowhere as stupid and foolhardy as has been written here, nope
But yes we prop them up economically and they know that too. WE have the upper hand in all areas, IMHO
How about 200 million soldiers?
How about if we give them(meaning China) - California, New York, New Jersey, Oregon, Mass. etc. - And McCain - for good measure -
Freedom for just the ones certain people think worthy - ? Interesting way to look at things -
You think China is going to invade America with a platoon of MPs from Haiti and a couple loading docks in Panama?
"You think China is going to invade America with a platoon of MPs from Haiti and a couple loading docks in Panama?"
There is no one thing that worries me about Red China. It is the totality of what they are doing as part of the rapidly growing Eurasian Alliance (Russia, Red China, EU, Iran, etc.).
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