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NBA suspends Artest for rest of season; eight players get shorter bans
Yahoo! News ^ | November 21, 2004 | CHRIS SHERIDAN

Posted on 11/21/2004 4:05:38 PM PST by El Conservador

NEW YORK (AP) -- Ron Artest was suspended for the rest of the season Sunday as the NBA came down hard on three members of the Indiana Pacers for fighting with fans when a melee broke out at the end of a game against the Detroit Pistons.

Overall, nine players from the teams were banned for more than 140 games, including some of the harshest penalties the league ever issued. Artest is the first player to be suspended for nearly an entire season for a fight during a game.

``The message the league sent was so powerful to players that they'll never do that again,'' Pistons CEO Tom Wilson said.

Indiana's Stephen Jackson was suspended for 30 games and Jermaine O'Neal for 25. Detroit's Ben Wallace -- whose shove of Artest after a foul led to the 5-minute fracas -- drew a six-game ban, while Pacers guard Anthony Johnson got five games.

``I'm sick about that for Indiana. I'm devastated for them,'' Pistons coach Larry Brown said. ``And we lost our heart and soul.''

Four players were suspended for a game apiece: Indiana's Reggie Miller, and Detroit's Chauncey Billups, Elden Campbell and Derrick Coleman.

All of the suspensions are without pay.

Artest, O'Neal and Jackson -- who all threw punches at fans in the stands or on the court at the end of the nationally televised Pacers-Pistons game Friday night -- began serving their suspensions Saturday. Indiana, limited to just six players because of the suspensions and injuries, dropped an 86-83 decision to Orlando.

``The actions of the players involved wildly exceeded the professionalism and self-control that should fairly be expected from NBA players,'' NBA commissioner David Stern said in a statement, adding that the league must not ``allow our sport to be debased by what seem to be declining expectations.''

The NBA also has to ``redefine the bounds of acceptable conduct for fans attending our games and resolve to permanently exclude those who overstep those bounds,'' Stern said.

He added that security procedures in all NBA arenas will be reviewed and rules need to be added to prevent a repeat of what happened at Auburn Hills, Mich., on Friday.

For Sunday night's home game against the Charlotte Bobcats -- Detroit's first outing since the melee -- the Pistons doubled the number of armed police to about 20 in the arena and increased other arena security personnel by about 25 percent.

When some spectators lined up to take pictures with Pistons guard Lindsey Hunter on the court before the game, two police officers stood just a few feet away.

The brawl was particularly violent, with Artest and Jackson bolting into the stands near center court and throwing punches at fans after debris was tossed at the players.

Later, fans who came onto the court were punched in the face by Artest and O'Neal.

Nine people were treated for injuries, and police are investigating possible criminal charges.

Wallace began the fracas by delivering a hard, two-handed shove to Artest after Wallace was fouled on a drive to the basket with 45.9 seconds remaining. After the fight ended, the referees called off the rest of the game.

The initial skirmish wasn't all that bad, with Artest retreating to the scorer's table and lying atop it after Wallace sent him reeling backward. But when a fan tossed a cup at Artest, he stormed into the stands, throwing punches as he climbed over seats.

Jackson joined Artest and threw punches at fans, who punched back. At one point, a chair was tossed into the fray.

The most recent example of an NBA player going into the stands and punching a fan came in February 1995, when Vernon Maxwell of the Houston Rockets pummeled a spectator in Portland. The league suspended him for 10 games and fined him $20,000.

Among the harshest non-drug-related penalties in NBA history was a one-year suspension of Latrell Sprewell -- later reduced to 68 games -- for choking Golden State Warriors coach P.J. Carlesimo at practice.

Kermit Washington of the Los Angeles Lakers drew a 60-day (26-game) suspension in 1977 for a punch that broke the jaw of the Houston Rockets' Rudy Tomjanovich during a game, while Dennis Rodman was suspended 11 games for kicking a courtside cameraman in the groin and six games for head-butting a referee.

Artest was benched for two games this month for asking Pacers coach Rick Carlisle for time off because of a busy schedule that included promoting a rap album.

Artest was suspended twice by the NBA last season, once for leaving the bench during a fracas at a Pacers-Celtics playoff game; the other for elbowing Portland's Derek Anderson. During the 2002-03 season, Artest was suspended five times by the NBA and once by the Pacers for a total of 12 games.

Artest also once grabbed a television camera and smashed it to the ground after a loss to the Knicks two years ago.

Updated on Sunday, Nov 21, 2004 6:42 pm EST


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Indiana; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: artest; keepinitreal; nba; pacers; pistons; ronartest; thugs
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1 posted on 11/21/2004 4:05:38 PM PST by El Conservador
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To: El Conservador

I know.. it really is a slow news day.


2 posted on 11/21/2004 4:07:48 PM PST by dc-zoo
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To: El Conservador

Yet, no whites suspended. Call Jesse and Al Sharpton. This is racism ipso facto.


3 posted on 11/21/2004 4:07:52 PM PST by elhombrelibre (Liberalism is proof that intelligent people can ignore as much as the ignorant.)
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To: El Conservador
the NBA

Nothing But A$$holes

4 posted on 11/21/2004 4:08:02 PM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Puppage
The NBA has become a degenerate group of hyperpituitary psychopathic out-of-control freaks.

It has been years since I got the slightest enjoyment out of watching the NBA. I have no interest in basketball whatsoever.

5 posted on 11/21/2004 4:13:10 PM PST by FormerACLUmember (Free Republic is 21st Century Samizdat)
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To: El Conservador

Artest will have plenty of time to promote his rap album now.


6 posted on 11/21/2004 4:13:35 PM PST by Huntress
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To: El Conservador

Just boycott the Criminal NBA....

They are a bunch of thugs anyway.

How many have College Degrees?
How many have criminal records?

They are not role models they are nothing but criminals run amok.

Stern is a pathetic excuse for a leader. Artest & O'neil should have been banned for life....

Again, all he does is blame the fans....

Well, as a former fan, you won't have to worry about my family, sons, et al paying to see any games, we'll stay home where it is safe.

Screw the NBA, it is no longer basketball, it is all about individuals out for themselves.

And screw the Auburn hills Police MORONS.... They saw crimes being committed and arrested no players, none.... Where is their integrity, their duty to arrest criminals in the commission of a crime. Bunch of paid off moron union thugs that didn't bother doing their jobs again...

Must be more revenue in speeding tickets huh, Auburn Hills... Panzies....

Just turn it off, and go play with your children.

regards,
Joe


7 posted on 11/21/2004 4:14:33 PM PST by Sonar5 (60+ Million have Spoken Clearly - "We Want Our Country Back")
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To: El Conservador

Hey did you hear? I went to a Basketball game and a Music Awards Ceremony broke out?


8 posted on 11/21/2004 4:15:12 PM PST by discipler
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To: El Conservador
I wonder if I slugged the NBA commissioner ... would he just bar me from attending games for the remainder of the year or would he have my rump prosecuted by the law?

The NBA commissioner is a joke. He should be fired.

9 posted on 11/21/2004 4:16:18 PM PST by Common Tator
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To: El Conservador

For Ben Wallace to only get a 6 game suspension is a travesty.

1. Ben Wallace unjustifiably shoved Ron Artest after a hard, but not flagrant foul.

2. Ben Wallace then threw a towel at Ron Artest after Artest had stopped arguing and had lain down on the tables.

3. The throwing of the towel incited the fan to throw the beer at Artest.

But for Ben Wallace's actions, the ugly incident would not have occurred.

Ben Wallaced deserved at least a 25 game suspension.


10 posted on 11/21/2004 4:18:06 PM PST by Doctorlawyer
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To: El Conservador
...the Pistons doubled the number of armed police to about 20...

And who are they supposed to shoot - the perp players?

11 posted on 11/21/2004 4:18:47 PM PST by Libloather (RED REGIONS ROCK!)
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To: Common Tator

Stern won't be fired, he is protecting the game, his dollars and job...

The only thing that will work is a MASSIVE BOYCOTT of all things NBA, games, TV, advertisers, merchandise, etc....


12 posted on 11/21/2004 4:18:57 PM PST by Sonar5 (60+ Million have Spoken Clearly - "We Want Our Country Back")
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To: El Conservador

Why didn't the police officers on duty go to the locker room and arrest those involved for assault & battery?


13 posted on 11/21/2004 4:21:48 PM PST by blam
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To: Puppage
the NBA. Nothing But A$$holes

Led by the king of all A$$holes, David Stern. He has presided over the degenration of this league, which is in the thrall of the music, alcohol, broadcast and sportswear industries. The league's marketing panders to gangsta lifestyles.

Did you hear his press conference? He was so lawyerly in parsing his words he reminded me of a dumbed-down Bill Clinton.

If he was actually accountable to someone (he's not), I would have his a$$ over this.

During the jackass's 21 years, the league has gone from Magic and Bird to Allen Iverson, Ron Artest, Latrell Sprewell, Ben Wallace, Kobe Bryant, Carmelo Anthony........oh, geez. It is me-first thuggism instead of the unselfish team ball that created fan loyalty. Good riddance, NBA. Nice legacy, Commissioner.

14 posted on 11/21/2004 4:23:12 PM PST by Zebra
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To: El Conservador

Well deserved suspensions. I congratulate Commissioner Stern.


15 posted on 11/21/2004 4:23:16 PM PST by Enterprise (The left hates the Constitution. Islamic Fascism hates America. Natural allies.)
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To: blam

"Why didn't the police officers on duty go to the locker room and arrest those involved for assault & battery?"

Exactly... More UNION THUGS protecting other union thugs.

Pathetic scumbags observe crimes being committed and do nothing.....

Fans are not safe, so don't go. The only ones I saw being hauled off were fans...


16 posted on 11/21/2004 4:27:12 PM PST by Sonar5 (60+ Million have Spoken Clearly - "We Want Our Country Back")
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To: El Conservador

These guys make so much money and part of their job is putting up with fan behavior. Fans have always shouted comments during during sporting event. The sudden rash of beating them up is disgusting. These players are spoiled rotten.


17 posted on 11/21/2004 4:40:26 PM PST by foolscap
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To: FormerACLUmember
The NBA has become a degenerate group of hyperpituitary psychopathic out-of-control freaks.

I couldn't agree more!

18 posted on 11/21/2004 4:50:18 PM PST by Rummyfan
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To: All

The players are nothing but a bunch of thugs and the majority of the fans of the NBA are just as thuggish as the players.

They deserve each other and the NBA is a total joke.


19 posted on 11/21/2004 4:54:21 PM PST by incubus
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To: Doctorlawyer

Shoving another player is not criminal, smacking a fan in the mouth with your fist is a criminal act. No comparison.


21 posted on 11/21/2004 4:56:36 PM PST by kempo
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"Ron Artest was suspended for the rest of the season"... it's a step in the right direction.


22 posted on 11/21/2004 4:57:12 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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To: discipler
BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

I really needed a new tagline!

23 posted on 11/21/2004 5:03:21 PM PST by grellis ("I went to a Basketball game and a Music Awards Ceremony broke out"--discipler)
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To: Doctorlawyer
I hope these suspensions are appeal-able. While Artest can be explosive, Ben Wallace and the Detroit fans are to blame for the whole thing. Artest was only defending himself as was the rest of the Pacers who got involved.

I'm tired of this "holier than thou" attitude by the rest of the Pacers who didn't get involved, the Detroit Pistons, the Detroit press, and the NBA. A man defends himself and gets tossed for the season or 25-30 games?? I don't think so.

24 posted on 11/21/2004 5:12:24 PM PST by pctech
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To: Hartranft
The punishments are not enough. LIFETIME bans for Artest and O'Neal

Let me guess, you're a Piston's fan right? I couldn't disagree more with your assessment.

25 posted on 11/21/2004 5:13:42 PM PST by pctech
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To: El Conservador
Look for the NBA to go the way of the NHL if this stands.

ML/NJ

26 posted on 11/21/2004 5:14:10 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: El Conservador
Not enough. Artest should be banned from the NBA for life with forfeiture of any and all monies he may receive in compensation for any duties he has or will perform for the NBA. Stern should tell this POS that he does not want this kind of trash wearing an NBA logo. Now or ever.
If Stern really wanted to send a message he'd have delivered a message. As it is, Artest will be back on the gravy train next season and except for a mention from ESPN on Sports Center when he hits the floor for the first pre-season game, it'll all be forgotten.
27 posted on 11/21/2004 5:18:08 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (May the wings of Liberty never lose so much as a feather.)
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To: El Conservador
For the last few years it seems as if our societal morals were mirroring professional sports, especially the NBA. I hope and pray that this is another incident that shows how out of touch pro sports are. I cheered when Artest got axed for the season. They all should have, plus they ALL need to be arrested and prosecuted for assult.

Did you see what Ron Zook did to # 61 in the Fla- Fla St game. Zook took him out after he threw a cheap shot and I don't think he got back in. These folks must understand that there are consequences for behavior. Hire Ron Zook!
28 posted on 11/21/2004 5:18:14 PM PST by bamabound (a teacher with a REAL job! Teaching kids to be good citizens of the USA)
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To: pctech

I am sure you would feel the same way if you were the guy Artest sucker-punched in the face.


29 posted on 11/21/2004 5:19:01 PM PST by ardara
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To: Hartranft

What would you recommend for the fan that tossed the drink?


30 posted on 11/21/2004 5:19:07 PM PST by Gimme
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To: El Conservador

At least they didn't rape anyone.


31 posted on 11/21/2004 5:20:12 PM PST by RtWngr (Being tolerant of the intolerant is pretty stupid actually.)
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To: El Conservador
The NBA also has to ``redefine the bounds of acceptable conduct for fans attending our games and resolve to permanently exclude those who overstep those bounds,'' Stern said.

Permanently ?

He should have permanently banned each NBA player who attacked a fan. The DA should prosecute everyone on film who committed a crime.

32 posted on 11/21/2004 5:20:49 PM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: FormerACLUmember

>>I have no interest in basketball whatsoever.

Neither do I, nor do I let my children.


33 posted on 11/21/2004 5:21:42 PM PST by Baraonda (I just paid all my taxes and am worried. I still have some money left.)
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To: blam
Why didn't the police officers on duty go to the locker room and arrest those involved for assault & battery?

Because these guys are all 'Plaaayuhs'...you know, Def Gangsta Wannabes. With no cameras around, they'd have kicked the cops asses righteous. And the cops knew it.

34 posted on 11/21/2004 5:21:52 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (May the wings of Liberty never lose so much as a feather.)
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To: El Conservador
Among the harshest non-drug-related penalties in NBA history was a one-year suspension of Latrell Sprewell -- later reduced to 68 games -- for choking Golden State Warriors coach P.J. Carlesimo at practice.

This coddling of Sprewell sent the wrong message. He should have been banned for life.

35 posted on 11/21/2004 5:23:09 PM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: ardara

Sure would, but I wouldn't get punched cuz I'm not that kind of guy. I don't go around throwing beer on opposing players. If you ask me the guy deserved the punch he got. If you can't take it, don't mead it out!


36 posted on 11/21/2004 5:23:53 PM PST by pctech
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To: pctech

Perhaps you should look at all the tapes.The victim I am refering to,wore a baseball cap and was not shown throwing beer.


37 posted on 11/21/2004 5:29:03 PM PST by ardara
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To: af_vet_1981
He should have permanently banned each NBA player who attacked a fan. The DA should prosecute everyone on film who committed a crime.

Exactly!

38 posted on 11/21/2004 5:29:12 PM PST by mcenedo (lying liberal media - our most dangerous and powerful enemy)
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To: pctech

Michigan law requires that you do everything possible to avoid a fight. Unless someone is ontop of you punching you, you are breaking the law by going into the stands and punching someone. I got this from my father who was a police officer for 29 years. He said that what Artest did was a criminal act. He did not have the right to go into the stands and assault someone.
And to whoever else it was who compared Ben Wallace to Ron Artest and Kobe Bryant obviously doesn't know what went on during the rest of the game. Artest was allowed to do some crazy things by rookie referees. Ben Wallace is a class act. Yes, he took things too far and deserves his suspension, but don't compare him to an accused Rapist.


39 posted on 11/21/2004 5:33:21 PM PST by rightwingmichigander (W2)
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To: Doctorlawyer

hmm Evidently the folks that count don't agree with you.


40 posted on 11/21/2004 5:33:54 PM PST by Gimme
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To: Sonar5
The only thing that will work is a MASSIVE BOYCOTT of all things NBA, games, TV, advertisers, merchandise, etc....

Already well underway in this household, and untold others. I heartily recommend the banishment of all tattooed gangsta morons from one's life ... it feels good.

41 posted on 11/21/2004 5:35:50 PM PST by Jhensy
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To: pctech

Are you sure he punched the guy who threw the beer.Looked like he just picked the biggest loud mouth and attacked.If you look at the video while he was laying on the scorers table you can see the guy he attacked.His hands are empty.He also swung at the fat guy on the floor before the guy gave any indication of attacking him.Then his buddy sucker punched the fat guy.This has nothing to do with which team anyone supports, but I have to wonder about the ethics of anyone who tries to make excuses for these thugs.


42 posted on 11/21/2004 5:36:12 PM PST by Blessed
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To: blam

Professional athletes (figure skating is an exception)
are generally speaking above the law, especially regarding crimes involving violence or sex.

The police and prosecuting attorneys who allow this are a disgrace to their profession and our nation whose laws they are sworn to uphold (but I bet they get plenty of comps to athletic events, signed balls etc.)

This pattern frequently starts in high school.

Kudos to OSU for its recent going against the grain on the athlete crime issue.


43 posted on 11/21/2004 5:37:23 PM PST by rogator
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To: kempo

"Shoving another player is not criminal, smacking a fan in the mouth with your fist is a criminal act. No comparison."

Even worse if it's the wrong person one is assaulting!


44 posted on 11/21/2004 5:37:57 PM PST by Gimme
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To: Jhensy

Give me a break. Not all NBA players are like Allen Iverson. There are great players and a lot of all around good guys in the NBA. Just because there are some idiots in the NBA doesn't mean that all are bad. You don't call the entire Congress a bunch of idiots just because of Ted Kennedy and Nancy Pelosi.


45 posted on 11/21/2004 5:40:56 PM PST by rightwingmichigander (W2)
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To: Gimme; All

What would you recommend for the fan that tossed the drink?

I don't know, but as a longtime Lakers' fan, I have heard P.A. announcer Lawrence Tanter repeatedly give a pre-game address similar to the following:

"Ladies and gentlemen, in the spirit of good sportsmanship, and as a courtesy to players and spectators, the NBA requests that you please refrain from throwing any objects, either on the court, or in the stands. Such actions can cause serious injury; violators will be ejected and subject to criminal arrest.

"Also, the Forum (Staples Center) would like to remind you that any fan who goes on to the court, or otherwise disrupts play in any manner, will be ejected, and subject to criminal arrest."

Now, I don't exactly know what part of all that they don't get....

On an extremely sarcastic note (saving me the /sarcasm tag at the end), it's Bush's fault, Tom Daschle is deeply saddened, I find the timing suspicious, and there is no terrorist threat.


46 posted on 11/21/2004 5:43:05 PM PST by Christian4Bush (The drive for 60 in the Senate begins NOW: only 717 days left until the Midterm Elections!)
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To: Doctorlawyer
25 games!

So you are one of those who believes that Wallace should be penalized for the way somebody else acts? Wallace getting 7 games is a travesty because he shouldn't have got any. He pushed Artest-- that happens in 50% of NBA games---

please don't hold someone else accountable for another's actions--

Revise your moral code
47 posted on 11/21/2004 5:50:25 PM PST by ElRushbo (Harley Riders against Elton John)
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To: pctech

Yeah, running up into the stands and attacking the wrong guy is legitimate self-defense.


48 posted on 11/21/2004 5:52:56 PM PST by Rebelbase (Indiscriminate reprisals strengthen the terrorists. Targeted ones weaken them. Aim is everything.)
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To: El Conservador

My brother had an interesting take on all of this. Basically, Indiana's team is destroyed for the rest of the season. They are out of contention. Being that Detroit and Indiana were the top two teams, the Detroit fans, security, etc. actually succeeded in destroying the opposition. What kind of message does that sent to other nutty fans from other cities who might want to provoke opposition players. The guy who got the least amount of punishment is the guy who started it all. I don't really care, not an NBA fan, but I thought might be interesting to those of you who do.


49 posted on 11/21/2004 5:54:33 PM PST by Hildy (The really great men are always simple and true)
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To: ElRushbo

But Artest didn't fight Wallace back.


50 posted on 11/21/2004 5:55:34 PM PST by Hildy (The really great men are always simple and true)
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