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Reporter: Wounded Iraqi made no movements [NBC's Kevin Sites condemns Marine]
ASSOCIATED PRESS ^ | November 22, 2004 | By EDWARD HARRIS

Posted on 11/22/2004 4:05:26 AM PST by johnny7

BAGHDAD, Iraq -- The NBC correspondent who filmed the fatal shooting by a Marine of an apparently injured and unarmed Iraqi by a U.S. Marine inside a Fallujah mosque has written on his Web site that the wounded man made no sudden movements before the Marine opened fire on him.

Before the opening of the Nov. 8 assault on the rebel-held city, Marine commanders told infantrymen that the rules of engagement allowed for use of deadly force against men of military age deemed holding hostile intent, even if the enemy didn't fire on the Marines first.

In a posting on his Web blog dated Sunday, Kevin Sites, a freelancer on assignment for NBC, wrote that he didn't see the wounded Iraqi make any movement before the Marine shot him - but that only the Marine can explain his mental state before the shooting. "Through my viewfinder I can see him (Marine) raise the muzzle of his rifle in the direction of the wounded Iraqi. There are no sudden movements, no reaching or lunging," Sites writes. "However, the Marine could legitimately believe the man poses some kind of danger. Maybe he's going to cover him while another Marine searches for weapons. Instead, he pulls the trigger. There is a small splatter against the back wall and the man's leg slumps down," Sites writes. "'Well he's dead now,'" says another Marine in the background. "I was not watching from a hundred feet away. I was in the same room," Sites writes. "Aside from breathing, I did not observe any movement at all." "I can't know what was in the mind of that Marine," the posting reads. "He is the only one who does."

The U.S. military is investigating the Nov. 13 incident by a member of the 3rd Battalion, 1st Marine Division, footage of which has been broadcast worldwide, inflaming anti-American passions in the Arab world and among Iraq's Sunni minority. Military investigators also are looking into whether more than one wounded insurgent was shot in the mosque. Two other men visible on the NBC video appear to be suffering from what the network described in a broadcast as fresh and fatal gunshot wounds.

The shooting occurred when a Marine unit entered the mosque and found five men wounded in fighting at the site the day before, when another Marine unit clashed with gunmen apparently using the mosque to fire from, according to Sites' broadcast. In the video, as the cameraman moved into the mosque, a Marine can be heard shouting obscenities in the background, yelling that one of the men was only pretending to be dead. The Marine then raises his rifle toward an Iraqi lying on the floor of the mosque and shoots the man. Two other men are seen slumped by a wall. Sites' account said the men, who were hurt in the previous day's attack, had been shot again by the Marines. Earlier in the footage, as the Marine unit that Sites was accompanying approached the mosque, gunfire can be heard from inside.

Sites writes in his Web diary that the Marine, angry moments before firing, quickly became apologetic when he realized the incident had been caught on camera. "The Marine who fired the shot became aware that I was in the room. He came up to me and said, 'I didn't know sir - I didn't know.' The anger that seemed present just moments before turned to fear and dread." Sites - a well-built, goateed man who jogged around U.S. military bases near Fallujah that frequently come under mortar and rocket attack - wrote that perceptions of him as an agitator for peace are incorrect. "This week I've even been shocked to see myself painted as some kind of anti-war activist. Anyone who has seen my reporting on television or has read the dispatches on this Web site is fully aware of the lengths I've gone to play it straight down the middle - not to become a tool of propaganda for the left or the right."

Sites wrote that he considered destroying tape of the incident, rather than sharing it with the pool that shared footage among networks covering the fight in Fallujah. "I considered not feeding the tape to the pool - or even, for a moment, destroying it. But that thought created the same pit in my stomach that witnessing the shooting had ... I would be faced with the fact that I had betrayed truth as well as a life supposedly spent in pursuit of it."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: deadterrorists; fallujahmarine; kevinsites
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1 posted on 11/22/2004 4:05:26 AM PST by johnny7
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To: johnny7
has written on his Web site

He has a website?

2 posted on 11/22/2004 4:07:10 AM PST by SunnyUsa
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To: johnny7

If the man didn't move, he must have already been DEAD, case closed.


3 posted on 11/22/2004 4:08:26 AM PST by stockpirate (Not we must take our mandate and do the deed.)
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To: johnny7

Shocking, breaking news: "MARINES HAD MILK & COOKIES, BUT DIDN'T OFFER ANY TO INSURGENTS"

Barf bags at 11:00...


5 posted on 11/22/2004 4:10:32 AM PST by DJ Frisat (Hand me the duct tape before my head explodes...)
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To: johnny7
You cant see that through a video camera while shooting....and from the angle he was standing at he could only see him from one side.

He's a pariah right now and surrounded by marines, he's reaching for every excuse imaginable.

6 posted on 11/22/2004 4:12:30 AM PST by DainBramage (Next!)
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To: johnny7

"If he stands still, he's a well-disciplined VC" Shoot them all, Marines.


7 posted on 11/22/2004 4:12:34 AM PST by SirLurkedalot (Kevin Sites is an a**hole.)
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To: stockpirate

OR, if you are faking death you don't move. Boom-case closed.


8 posted on 11/22/2004 4:12:55 AM PST by shubi (Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom,must undergo the fatigues of supporting it.)
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To: johnny7
"This week I've even been shocked to see myself painted as some kind of anti-war activist. Anyone who has seen my reporting on television or has read the dispatches on this Web site is fully aware of the lengths I've gone to play it straight down the middle - not to become a tool of propaganda for the left or the right."

Spoken like a leftist. You never hear someone from the right talking of "the lengths" they've gone to "play it straight." What scum Sites is.

9 posted on 11/22/2004 4:13:47 AM PST by laredo44 (Liberty is not the problem)
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To: laredo44

He thinks being nuetral is going to buy him a pass.
We need journalists who are Americans first and publicists for terrorists second.


10 posted on 11/22/2004 4:15:08 AM PST by shubi (Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom,must undergo the fatigues of supporting it.)
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To: shubi

Right, if you are faking death than you have bad intent and deserve to be SHOT, case closed.


11 posted on 11/22/2004 4:15:54 AM PST by stockpirate (Not we must take our mandate and do the deed.)
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To: laredo44
Sounds a lot like the lying libs in the media.

Oh, I get complaints that I'm biased to the left and complaints that I'm biased to the right so that means I'm objective.

LOLOL.....sure it does!

12 posted on 11/22/2004 4:16:34 AM PST by OldFriend (PRAY FOR POWERS EQUAL TO THE TASKS)
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To: johnny7
You should have seen the coverage on CNN this morning at 0545...they were going on and on about how Sites felt he was being hounded and receiving death threats. The CNN international reporter was explaining Sites' webblog and saying that Sites was only doing his job and now he feels he is being persecuted by the public. CNN is going to keep this story alive since it doesn't serve their purpose to let it go...CNN/Al Jazerra - anti-American, anti-military, anti-war agenda.
13 posted on 11/22/2004 4:17:02 AM PST by Ginifer
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To: DainBramage

I will take this reporters word on this, because if he didn't move he was already dead! This reporter just let this MArine off the hook!

If he was faking death he had bad intent, and deserved to be shot!


14 posted on 11/22/2004 4:17:41 AM PST by stockpirate (Not we must take our mandate and do the deed.)
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To: SunnyUsa

http://www.kevinsites.net


15 posted on 11/22/2004 4:17:49 AM PST by Ginifer
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To: SunnyUsa

http://www.kevinsites.net/


16 posted on 11/22/2004 4:18:18 AM PST by boxerblues
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To: johnny7

Why all the fuss about this, and nothing about John F. Kerry pursuing a wounded Viet Cong and executing him?


17 posted on 11/22/2004 4:19:33 AM PST by noDixieCan
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To: DainBramage
...You cant see that through a video camera while shooting...

Can't see what?

Not defending Sites but many professional videographers (of which I was one once) shoot with the right eye in the viewfinder and the left eye open taking in the whole scene in order not to miss an event. Easy to do with practice.

18 posted on 11/22/2004 4:21:33 AM PST by FReepaholic (Proud FReeper since 1998. Proud monthly donor.)
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To: boxerblues; Ginifer

Thanks!


19 posted on 11/22/2004 4:21:57 AM PST by SunnyUsa
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To: johnny7
Too bad the man wasn't holding a white flag; that would have been immediate justification for shooting him.
20 posted on 11/22/2004 4:22:12 AM PST by Jeff Blogworthy
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To: johnny7

Kevin Sites holding camera

21 posted on 11/22/2004 4:22:16 AM PST by AmericanMade1776
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To: johnny7
"I can't know what was in the mind of that Marine," the posting reads. "He is the only one who does."

We think that terrorists are our only enemy. This idiot and his equipment is no different than a 'moo-la' calling the 'bots' for a frenzied blood letting.
22 posted on 11/22/2004 4:22:42 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: johnny7
I can't know what was in the mind of that Marine

No you can't Mr. Sites, but you do know what was in your mind. You do know whether or not you felt trepidation, whether you worried that one of the Iraqi terrorists might blow everyone in that room to smithereens. You do know if you were concerned about booby trapped bodies. And you know, and I know you were. As an imbed you know how concerned the marines were as well. That you make no reference to these concerns lets us all know you a hiding things, are being less than honest, are promoting something you'd rather we not know.

23 posted on 11/22/2004 4:23:37 AM PST by laredo44 (Liberty is not the problem)
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To: johnny7

Kevin Sites, the NBC cameraman who shot video of the controversial shooting of a Fallujah insurgent by a U.S. Marine, is an anti-war activist whose photographs of Iraqi prisoners are featured on at least one anti-war website.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=41506


24 posted on 11/22/2004 4:24:28 AM PST by AmericanMade1776
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To: SunnyUsa

I don't think from 20 feet away he culd tell the man was breathing!


25 posted on 11/22/2004 4:24:35 AM PST by stockpirate (Not we must take our mandate and do the deed.)
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To: johnny7

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=41506

http://www.kevinsites.net/


26 posted on 11/22/2004 4:24:54 AM PST by TaxRelief (out-of-the-closet conservative)
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To: tscislaw

And you can see every movement from both sides? BS


He assumes his viewpoint is the only one. His first verbal reaction was "it was murder".

Them man had an agenda from the get go.


27 posted on 11/22/2004 4:25:50 AM PST by DainBramage (Next!)
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To: laredo44

Bullseye.


28 posted on 11/22/2004 4:26:15 AM PST by SirLurkedalot (Kevin Sites is an a**hole.)
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To: johnny7

The marine did the right thing. Now leave him alone.


29 posted on 11/22/2004 4:28:19 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: johnny7
Another "Blame America First Liberal" seeking his fifteen minutes of fame.
30 posted on 11/22/2004 4:28:22 AM PST by True Grit
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To: shubi

Sites is not now, nor has he ever been, neutral.


31 posted on 11/22/2004 4:28:25 AM PST by Bahbah
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To: johnny7

I'm surprised that Sites hasn't claimed the dead terrorist was a member of a wedding party.


32 posted on 11/22/2004 4:29:27 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Kevin Sites is a coward and a terrorist sympathizer.)
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To: johnny7
It looks like he is preparing his defense. I wonder what else we are going to learn about Kevin Sites?

(I mean, other than that he's really special and morally superior to the rest of us.)

33 posted on 11/22/2004 4:29:31 AM PST by niteowl77 (No more NBC or MSNBC... ever.)
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To: shubi
Yeah, this "reporter" is another terrorist mouth piece. Why can't this reporter be "kidnapped"? Then he'd better understand that we shouldn't take ANY prisoners.
34 posted on 11/22/2004 4:30:06 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Ginifer
receiving death threats

The first thing out of every leftist's mouth: they're getting death threats from the brutish right. News flash to the left, especially to somebody like Sites who thinks he's "passin," as soon as you drag out the "death threats" (notice it's never one death threat, always plural) we KNOW your a lefty. It's a dead (get it) give away. Ha Ha. You've been outed.

35 posted on 11/22/2004 4:32:07 AM PST by laredo44 (Liberty is not the problem)
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To: Just mythoughts

"I can't know what was in the mind of that Marine," the posting reads. "He is the only one who does."

Horse hockey. The video makes if very clear the marine thought the guy was faking death - that was the motive plain and clear and he did the right thing by removing a possible threat. The video CLEARS him - case closed.


36 posted on 11/22/2004 4:32:08 AM PST by Texas Deb
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To: AmericanMade1776
Look at that dude. I'm usually not one to make assessments just on looks, but this "pretty boy" ain't no HAWK that's for sure!

The asswipe is playing this for all it's worth, pure scumbag!

37 posted on 11/22/2004 4:32:21 AM PST by sirchtruth (Words Mean Things...)
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To: SunnyUsa
Sites, Nov. 21, 2004: This week I've even been shocked to see myself painted as some kind of anti-war activist. Anyone who has seen my reporting on television or has read the dispatches on this website is fully aware of the lengths I've gone to play it straight down the middle -- not to become a tool of propaganda for the left or the right.

Someone should tell Mr. Sites that "down the middle" means he's not on our side. And if he is not on the side of his own country, what is he doing hanging around, listening to our strategies and plans? How dare he expect the soldiers who he does not support to defend him?

38 posted on 11/22/2004 4:32:25 AM PST by TaxRelief (out-of-the-closet conservative)
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To: Ginifer
Sites is feeling the heat of our anger over his treatment of this Marine. My question to Sites - if I could find an email address for him - is "Why wasn't your camera rolling the day before when this Marine's friend was blown up when he tried to help an "injured" terrorist who just happened to have an explosive on his body?" "Why wasn't your camera rolling when our troops found the hacked up body of a white female - hacked up with no arms, legs or head?" "Where are your pictures of the slaughter/beheading rooms our troops are now finding?"

You want to prove your "middle of the road coverage" Mr. Sites? Let's see some of these pictures, then MAYBE we'll listening to your whining.

39 posted on 11/22/2004 4:32:29 AM PST by Elkiejg (HE'S WITH ME!!!!!)
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To: AmericanMade1776

Kevin sites.

40 posted on 11/22/2004 4:33:29 AM PST by AmericanMade1776
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To: johnny7

***Sites writes in his Web diary that the Marine, angry moments before firing, quickly became apologetic when he realized the incident had been caught on camera.***

This is from AP, the liars!!!!!!!! What Sites said is that HE yelled that the man was a prisoner from a previous raid, and that was when the Marine said, "I didn't know, sir." He did NOT say that the Marine apologized when he realized the incident had been caught on camera."

Rush is right. The AP is just an extension of the DNC.

However, what this article didn't say is that Sites claims the man was breathing. If that's correct (WE ONLY HAVE SITES WORD FOR IT), then he wasn't dead.

And why does a Marine have to call a reporter "sir"? Sites is a maggot.


41 posted on 11/22/2004 4:33:41 AM PST by kitkat
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To: johnny7
"I can't know what was in the mind of that Marine," the posting reads. "He is the only one who does."

My guess is that the Marine was probably thinking, "Not only do I have to secure this f%#king building a second time, but I also have to protect this candy-assed press parasite from getting a boo boo."

42 posted on 11/22/2004 4:34:19 AM PST by Alouette (When the wicked perish, there is jubilation! Proverbs 11:10)
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To: AmericanMade1776

Traitor NBC photographer email addresses:

kevinsites@hotmail.com

kevin@kevinsites.net

http://www.kevinsites.net/


43 posted on 11/22/2004 4:34:43 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: AmericanMade1776
Kevin Sites, the NBC cameraman who shot video of the controversial shooting of a Fallujah insurgent by a U.S. Marine, is an anti-war activist whose photographs of Iraqi prisoners are featured on at least one anti-war website. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=41506 total crap. I for one am a DEFENDER of the marine who shot this possum playing raghead, who is also disgusted with the unthinking hysteria that goes on over at World Net Daily. Kevin Sites has NO control over what anti war (or pro war) site picks up his photos and highlights them. He has openly stated that he does NOT endorse the site nor their use of his pics on their site.
44 posted on 11/22/2004 4:34:56 AM PST by chronic_loser (Yeah? so what do I know?)
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To: johnny7
Fine. Now Kevin Sites can be the one to go in and check every body and wounded person. If he refuses to do it, he admits the danger.
45 posted on 11/22/2004 4:35:14 AM PST by atomicpossum (I am the Cat that walks by himself, and all places are alike to me.)
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To: sirchtruth

Kevin Sites is also a Talking Head, has worked for CNN, MSNBC, and ABC. Not just a photographer, but a writer.


46 posted on 11/22/2004 4:35:22 AM PST by AmericanMade1776
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To: AmericanMade1776
Kevin Sites, the NBC cameraman who shot video of the controversial shooting of a Fallujah insurgent by a U.S. Marine, is an anti-war activist whose photographs of Iraqi prisoners are featured on at least one anti-war website. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=41506 total crap. I for one am a DEFENDER of the marine who shot this possum playing raghead, who is also disgusted with the unthinking hysteria that goes on over at World Net Daily. Kevin Sites has NO control over what anti war (or pro war) site picks up his photos and highlights them. He has openly stated that he does NOT endorse the site nor their use of his pics on their site.
47 posted on 11/22/2004 4:35:24 AM PST by chronic_loser (Yeah? so what do I know?)
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To: Just mythoughts

And you are right, the MSM is also our enemy, and the closer it comes to election time in Iraq, the more the terrorists and the MSM are going to try to derail our progress and the elections. Our MSM and the terrorists have the same goal - our defeat in Iraq.


48 posted on 11/22/2004 4:36:00 AM PST by Texas Deb
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To: Pookyhead

Right! Remember how many of those "innocent" Afgans that we had to release from the Gitmo facility that were later greased fighting in Afganistan.


49 posted on 11/22/2004 4:36:35 AM PST by Redleg Duke (Pass Tort Reform Now! Make the bottom clean for the catfish!)
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To: AmericanMade1776

Kevin Sites talking to Paula Zahn at CNN from Iraq http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/03/08/btsc.sites/

50 posted on 11/22/2004 4:36:50 AM PST by AmericanMade1776
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