Wisconsin Town in Shock Over Shootings

Monterey Herald ^ | November 22, 2004 | Duluth News Tribune

[holymoly]

Summary Box: Deer Hunting Turns Deadly
Newsday.com - AP

TENSION: Locals have complained that Hmong hunters do not understand the concept of private property, and previous fights have broken out among the Asian refugees and white hunters.

[MeneMeneTekelUpharsin]

Could have told you that. I grew up in Asia. I am sick and tired of Americans who know nothing and don't want to learn anything. Then, they get in leadership positions. Then, they let millions of immigrants come in who have no business living here and do NOT share our values. Then, everyone gets upset when something like this happens.

[holymoly]

I am sick and tired of Americans who know nothing and don't want to learn anything.

I don't know that the victims had the opportunity to learn about the Hmong. For all I know, this may have been the first encounter with a Hmong they had. Either way, these people are not responsible for what happened to them.

[dennisw]

Think this might bring back the death penalty?.......


Not in a state like Wisconsin which in other ways is a pretty honest and decently run state. People in Wisc. believe too much in the perfectibility of all men and won't admit to real evil and punish it accordingly.

[Eric in the Ozarks]

Hmong.

[Moose4]

Nope, I don't own any long guns. My brother had something that I *thought* was an SKS, that actually looked somewhat like a military weapon with a ten-round magazine, and he'd told me that it was pretty much a piece of junk, but he still took it with him if the remote burglar alarm went off at night in his business down the hill from his house. I guess I got my guns mixed up.

}:-)4

[MeneMeneTekelUpharsin]

Either way, these people are not responsible for what happened to them.

Sorry, still in class mode. American YOUTH don't want to learn much. If they would read and try to stay up with what is going on -- I've given them the FR link, they would know about these cultures. I know those individuals are NOT responsible for the fellow going psycho.

He is an unremorseful, cold-blooded killer. The Vietnamese in the same situation are identical. People should learn the background of some of these peoples and INSIST that they be deported. We do NOT need their religious values, rather lack of religious values, here.

[ArrogantBustard]

It probably is an SKS ...

Russian

Chinese

The Russian, Yugo, East German, and some Chinese rifles were made for actual military use, and tend to be of fairly high quality. Some Chinese rifles were made specifically for export to the USA, and are often of lesser quality. The internal parts on some of the Chinese rifles, particularly in the gas system, are not as robust as in the Russian rifles.

[ArrogantBustard]

My 1954 Tula Arsenal (Russki) is similar ... can't say as much for my Chicom...

Then there's my M1 ... Now that's quality manufacture.

[Kozak]

Now the Wisconsin taxpayers will get doubly screwed, paying for this upcoming media circus trial, paying for Hmong translators and for Chai Vang's lifetime room and board in prison

Maybe not. If he's an immigrant he may claim PTSD from his experience in Southeast Asia and make an insanity plea.

[Kozak]

True of some Chicom rifles; NOT true of Russian, Yugoslavian, and East German.M

Agree. got mine in the original Soviet box, never issued. Got it a gun show in Sacramento. Funny story. Bought it cash, in the box, with the spike bayonet on it. As I'm walking out of the gun show, along with about 500 rounds of ammo, a county sheriff goes " where the hell you going with that?" I tell him it's a collectable, no "cooling off period", another sheriff goes " yup, he's right, he can take it." Can't buy a 22 pistol and bring it home, but a semiauto mil rifle with the bayonet was OK. Loved the look on the first sheriffs face.

[ArrogantBustard]

Ah, the good ol' days. I recall walking out of a gunshow in MD with a "brand-new" SKS and 1000 rds, for under $150. There was a significant "cooling off" period, though, of about five hours ... cleaning the cosmoline off of it. Gack! I wore a ratty T-shirt and busted up sweatpants ... which went straight to the trash when I was done.

[TaxRelief]

Guilty on 6 counts murder, 3 counts attempted murder.

http://crime.about.com/b/a/203191.htm