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To: Mrs Ian Thorpe

You are totally right~ Chastity Bono, daughter of Sonny Bono and Cher is lesbian, and she said she would NOT wish being gay on anyone. It is a difficult life. Looking back I now realize that there were always gay people around. We called them bachelors and old maids. But they were really old and never married. Now I find out that many of them WERE gay. They were very discreet about it.

IF gays could change, they would change VERY early on. Like my three friends from high school who were gay and made a suicide pact. For them, that was easier than living with being gay.

I think most gays just want to be left alone.


23 posted on 11/22/2004 3:07:08 PM PST by buffyt (SOB Clinton mocks impeachment blaming Republicans for engaging in politics of personal destruction)
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To: buffyt
Reorientation-Therapy Psychologists Host APA Panel
September 18, 2004
- Drs. Warren Throckmorton and Mark Yarhouse led an American Psychological Association panel to discuss sexual-orientation theories and the possibility of change. The panel, held in late July, was part of the APA's annual conference, which took place this year in Honolulu, Hawaii.
Dr. Throckmorton and Dr. Yarhouse presented evidence from their research that indicated that individuals could overcome same-sex attractions--especially those clients with a religious background.
According to Dr. Throckmorton, "Mark and I presented the side that argued that a same-sex attraction does not obligate a person to declare a gay identity. We argued that sexual identity management was a very viable option for young people whose beliefs and values do not endorse homosexuality."
Throckmorton and Yarhouse view success in changing a person's sexual orientation not as something quickly achieved, but as a process over time.
During the Q&A session, both psychologists were treated cordially and with respect. "It was the kind of response that I think a professional association ought to be known for," said Throckmorton. He noted that when he spoke four years ago at an APA conference in Washington, DC, the audience was decidedly hostile to his message. This year was different. He expressed appreciation to the APA for allowing such a panel to be conducted.
Throckmorton was also encouraged that a number of psychology graduate students were in the audience, and he expressed gratitude that they had been exposed to his views. "These graduate students were exposed to a perspective they had never heard before," said Throckmorton.
Dr. Brent Scharman, past president of the Utah Psychological Association, told Throckmorton that this was the best presentation he had heard in 20 years.

27 posted on 11/22/2004 3:11:05 PM PST by Ed Current
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To: buffyt

I beg your pardon, but I am 45, never married, no girlfriend, and I am not gay.

Being a batchelor does not make a man gay.


65 posted on 11/22/2004 4:18:20 PM PST by RaceBannon (Arab Media pulled out of Fallujah; Could we get the MSM to pull out of America??)
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To: buffyt

>>I think most gays just want to be left alone.<<

Sorry but my experience with gay friends and my own sister says that Gays are in your face kind of people. They don't want to be left alone, they want to be accepted where they should be treated. The head of the APA that took the Homosexual diagnosis out of the DSM was gay himself according to a report on NPR. He went against his entire group to do it. If homosexuals could be treated we would see less of them.

And please do not assume that every "Old Maid" or "Bachelor" was gay. I was accused of that until I shocked many people and married at 36. Sex is not everything and some of us do not feel that we should put out for everyone because society says if it feels good, do it.


71 posted on 11/22/2004 4:27:37 PM PST by netmilsmom (Zell on DEM Christianity, "They can hum the tune, but can't sing the song.")
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To: buffyt
Do you believe that people who have the desire to have sex with children are born that way.

What about a desire to have sex with animals?

Many times these desires start in childhood, does that make is normal?

The way they have sex is abnormal, and harmful to their own bodies.

They were not naturally made for that type of sex.
107 posted on 11/22/2004 11:49:47 PM PST by Delphinium
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