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Bush The Insurgent (Fred Barnes On Why Bush Is Turning D.C Upside Down Alert)
Opinionjournal.com ^ | 11/23/04 | Fred Barnes

Posted on 11/22/2004 9:28:44 PM PST by goldstategop

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To: Richard Kimball
they have no problem with fake faith, but can't stand the genuine article.

My theory is that a lot of them believe that all faith is fake. They dislike Bush because he acts on his faith, particularly tenets of his faith that contradict their "lifestyles."

101 posted on 11/23/2004 6:05:36 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Aquinasfan

But it's not necessary to accomplish that in a church every Sunday.


102 posted on 11/23/2004 6:05:40 AM PST by alnick
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To: goldstategop
That blast was followed three days later by one from Mr. Gergen. Having worked for three Republican presidents and a Democratic one, taught at Duke and Harvard, and worked in the media in Washington, Mr. Gergen reliably embodies establishment thinking. He is cautious. He was leery about the Iraq war. Now, he wrote in the New York Times, "the immediate danger" facing Mr. Bush is "hubris," or overreaching. He likened Mr. Bush's plans to FDR's attempts to pack the Supreme Court and purge Southern Democratic senators. FDR famously failed.

And there-in lies Mr. Gergen's problem. HE HAS NOT BEEN ASKED TO "ADVISE" PRESIDENT BUSH. He's Pi$$ed.

103 posted on 11/23/2004 6:07:20 AM PST by jackbill
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To: TADSLOS

What were they doing in that picture? dancing?


104 posted on 11/23/2004 6:10:00 AM PST by CaraM
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To: sevry

To see the clueless speak with arrogance makes some people laugh.


105 posted on 11/23/2004 6:13:53 AM PST by Matchett-PI (All DemocRATS are either religious moral relativists, libertines or anarchists.)
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To: Charliehorse
Port Out Starboard Home = POSH, which meant they had the money and prestige to demand this arrangement that they viewed as advantages for some reason such as where the sun was in the mornings or the view, etc.

This was the sticker put on luggage and tickets of the elite sailing from England across the Atlantic. The port side going west and the starboard side going east are the southern exposures on each voyage, therefore the side with the sun. Much better, particularly in the north Atlantic where these trans-Atlantic ships traveled (think Titanic). Particularly when cabin heating was still a hit or miss thing. Having a sunny exposure was much more comfrotable.

Of course, for Americans making the reverse arrangments would apply, the "good" cabins would have been SOPH. Wonder why that didn't catch on over here? You wonder if some gauche Americans insisted on POSH accomodations, since they were the "good" ones, without realizing what it was about?

106 posted on 11/23/2004 6:14:49 AM PST by Phsstpok (often wrong, but never in doubt)
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To: alnick
But it's not necessary to accomplish that in a church every Sunday.

Go back and look at the practice of the early Church, the practice of the believers who were alive during the time of Christ and shortly thereafter.

In addition to the fact that the members of the early Christian Church lived close in time to the Apostles (sometimes with firsthand knowledge of Apostolic teaching), the early Church's testimony is also important because Scripture calls the Church "the pillar and foundation of truth (1 Tim 3:15)." Jesus also says that those who will not listen to the Church should be treated as pagans and tax collectors (Mat 18:17).

107 posted on 11/23/2004 6:16:55 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: goldstategop

Thats one reason why he was reelected. He recognizes that business as usual isn't working.


108 posted on 11/23/2004 6:18:00 AM PST by El Buscador (Speak softly but carry a big stick and use it.)
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To: goldstategop
"One tux a term," a White House official said. "That's our idea of outreach to the Washington community."

Ya just gotta love this guy....

109 posted on 11/23/2004 6:21:11 AM PST by Gritty ("One tux a term. That's our idea of outreach to the Washington community"-Bush White House Official)
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To: narses
One of the things that the left has always done is they've driven the "narrative" through their ownership of the press. The 2000 Florida problem was Republicans suppressing votes, not Democrats trying to invent votes to cheat. The impeachment was "just about sex" so perjury wasn't really perjury. For four years they've tried to sell the idea that Bush was a dunce and now they're pushing the notion that he only got elected because of religious fundamentalist wing nuts.

And it ain't working.

Now a narrative is emerging that doesn't spring from THEM. Barnes article is part of it. The stories about the Sharansky visit to the White House are another big part. The quote from Joel Rosenberg's piece in New Republic are starting to define the Bush Presidency in a different way:

"I told the president, 'There is a great difference between politicians and dissidents. Politicians are focused on polls and the press. They are constantly making compromises. But dissidents focus on ideas. They have a message burning inside of them. They would stand up for their convictions no matter what the consequences.'

"I told the president, 'In spite of all the polls warning you that talking about spreading democracy in the Middle East might be a losing issue — despite all the critics and the resistance you faced — you kept talking about the importance of free societies and free elections. You kept explaining that democracy is for everybody. You kept saying that only democracy will truly pave the way to peace and security. You, Mr. President, are a dissident among the leaders of the free world.'"

From one of the most famous dissidents of era of the Evil Empire, such is not faint praise.

Bush is a dissident.  He's an anti-establishment reformer.  He disdains the elite "power brokers" and, in fact, is here to take away their power, because they are the ones who have caused all these problems.

I like this narrative.  Now we have to follow the Democrats tactic of endless repetition until it is accepted as dogma.  We do have one great advantage for this narrative compared to what the Democrats always sell.  This narrative happens to be the truth.

110 posted on 11/23/2004 6:23:52 AM PST by Phsstpok (often wrong, but never in doubt)
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To: Aquinasfan
Go back and look at the practice of the early Church, the practice of the believers who were alive during the time of Christ and shortly thereafter.

The question was, "Isn't Sunday attendance sort of a mandantory part of the Christian faith?"

It is not mandatory. Jesus Christ did not say, "Ye shall attend church services every Sunday in order to be saved."

It's desirable, sure, but not mandatory.

111 posted on 11/23/2004 6:27:33 AM PST by alnick
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To: goldstategop
"One tux a term," a White House official said. "That's our idea of outreach to the Washington community."

Sounds about right to me.

112 posted on 11/23/2004 6:30:35 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: goldstategop
"One tux a term," a White House official said. "That's our idea of outreach to the Washington community."

I love this President!

113 posted on 11/23/2004 6:32:11 AM PST by SuziQ (W STILL the President)
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To: devolve; goldstategop
I like Fred Barnes a lot. My favorite FOX News show is Special Report with Brit Hume. When Brit Hume or Fred Barnes isn't there, it's a disappointment to me. If Charles Krauthammer is, that is a good consolation. I like CK also.


From the article:

Mr. Bush's agenda is post-Reagan in its conservatism, which means it's more far-reaching and thus more threatening to the establishment. Mr. Bush would not only reform Social Security and allow individuals to invest a portion of their payroll taxes in financial markets, he would also revamp the entire federal tax code and fill the Supreme Court with judicial conservatives. And those are only his domestic plans. In foreign affairs, Mr. Bush would make aggressive efforts to spread democracy around the world the centerpiece. The foreign policy élite is aghast.

From the start of his first term, Mr. Bush has been immune to the blandishments of the establishment. When Reagan came to Washington in 1980, he made a point of attending a welcoming party at the home of the late Katherine Graham, publisher of the Washington Post. It signified his desire for cordial relations with the establishment. Reagan mostly got along fine, while still pursuing policies (tax cuts, fervent anti-communism) frowned on in Washington. His wife Nancy became his ambassador to the establishment. If Mr. Bush had an ambassador, it was Secretary of State Colin Powell, and he's leaving the administration.


You tell 'em, Fred!!



114 posted on 11/23/2004 6:32:50 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: CBart95
This little tale reveals more about who Fred Barnes is and who he isn't.

Oh, I don't think Fred has a problem with the President's attitudes. He's commenting more on the hysteria in the 'establishment' that their favored position holds no water with the Bush Administration. The President is neither impressed with, nor cowed by the DC 'movers and shakers', so he doesn't feel the need to coddle them as other Presidents have done.

115 posted on 11/23/2004 6:36:25 AM PST by SuziQ (W STILL the President)
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To: alnick
It is not mandatory. Jesus Christ did not say, "Ye shall attend church services every Sunday in order to be saved."

I don't mean to be contentious, just explaining my position. If the Bible tells us to "listen to the Church," and the Church mandates Sunday worship, then Sunday worship is mandatory.

You're correct that Scripture doesn't record Jesus explicitly mandating Sunday worship, but keep in mind that Saturday worship was mandated for the Jews, and that Jesus didn't come to abolish the Law, but to fulfill it. And Old Testament types prefigure their superior, New Testament counterparts.

Hebrews 10:24-25

And let us consider how we may spur one another on toward love and good deeds. Let us not give up meeting together, as some are in the habit of doing, but let us encourage one another--and all the more as you see the Day approaching.

See the surrounding context especially.
116 posted on 11/23/2004 6:39:18 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: goldstategop
A big difference from Clinton, who faked religious sincerity and carried a bible prominently with him to and from Sunday worship services.

Always carrying the bible in the hand closest to the camera ...

117 posted on 11/23/2004 6:44:20 AM PST by BluH2o
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To: dagnabbit

Kind of hard to bash your host too hard in your newspaper when you've just left the man's mansion with a bellyfull of his food and drink. Gee, tell that to Teddy Kennedy.


118 posted on 11/23/2004 6:44:31 AM PST by Safetgiver (Mud slung is ground lost.)
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To: narses
the Catholic doctrine that we have an OBLIGATION to attend services every Sunday is "posh"?

Not to start a flame-war, but do not confuse Catholic doctrine for requirements for Christianity.

119 posted on 11/23/2004 6:47:29 AM PST by kevkrom (Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. But it rocks absolutely, too.)
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To: Aquinasfan

The President of the United States is a target, and has special security concerns which are often burdensome, every time he goes out in public, especially now that we are at war. He didn't attend his daughters' college graduation because of it, it does not mean he doesn't love them or wish he could have been there. It means he thinks more of who he would be inconviencing than he thinks of himself.

If you are trying to make the point that Bush is a bad Christian because he doesn't attend services in a public church every Sunday, give it up. It just isn't true. You do not know that Bush does not worship PRIVATELY with others at Camp David or in Crawford.

I am assuming you are not trying to start a war between Catholics' views of services and Protestants' views of services. In the Protestant view, PUBLIC Sunday worship is NOT mandatory, since salvation rests on faith, not works. Protestants realize Catholics believe differently about this. Bush is a Protestant, not a Catholic, that is no shock to anyone.

Only on FR could a post about Bush shaking up establishment Washington turn into an issue between Catholics and Protestants.


120 posted on 11/23/2004 6:58:27 AM PST by Rocky Mountain Mama (four more years of tax cuts and dead terrorists)
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