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Texas woman charged in gruesome murder of baby daughter
courttv.com; AP | Updated Nov. 23, 2004, 8:24 a.m. ET | AP

Posted on 11/23/2004 11:57:32 AM PST by Jersey Republican Biker Chick

PLANO, Texas (AP) — With a calm and dispassionate voice and a hymn playing in the background, Dena Schlosser confessed to the unthinkable, telling a 911 operator she'd cut off the arms of her baby girl.

The woman was sitting in her living room covered with blood when police arrived Monday. Her nearly 11-month-old daughter lay fatally injured in a crib in a bedroom of the family's apartment in Plano. The child died shortly afterward at a nearby hospital.

Police have charged the 35-year-old mother with capital murder, but declined to reveal where she is being held.

Schlosser, who had a history of postpartum depression, had been investigated on child neglect allegations earlier this year, but Texas Child Protective Services had recently closed a seven-month investigation, concluding that Schlosser did not pose a risk to her children. Neighbors said she seemed to be a loving, attentive mother.

"There were never any indications of violence with this family," agency spokeswoman Marissa Gonzales said. "The children had always been healthy, happy and cared for."

But, on Monday, authorities discovered a grisly scene at the family's apartment after the child's father called a day-care center, and asked them to check on his wife and daughter.

Day-care workers called 911 after talking to the mother; an operator then called Schlosser.

Asked if there was an emergency, Schlosser calmly responded "Yes," according to 911 tapes released by police.

"Exactly what happened?" the 911 operator asked.

"I cut her arms off," Schlosser replied, as the hymn "He Touched Me" played in the background.

"You cut her arms off?" he repeated.

"Uh huh," she answered.

It was not immediately clear what instrument was used to sever the baby's arms or why the child's father called a day-care center to check on his family.

Schlosser lived at the apartment with other family members, including her two older daughters. Authorities said the girls, ages 6 and 9, were at school when police arrived, and that their father was at work.

No one answered the door Monday night at the family's apartment in suburban Dallas. Children's bicycles rested near the entrance along with angel garden statues.

Neighbors said Schlosser took her children swimming in the summer, had picnics in the courtyard and walked her baby around the complex the same time each afternoon.

Dena Livingston, 43, said she saw Schlosser making her rounds with the stroller on Sunday. Two days earlier, she saw Schlosser waiting with the baby outside the elementary school where her two other daughters attend.

"She didn't give off like she was in a distant world or didn't care about the baby," Livingston said.

Livingston's husband, Brad, added: "To see her with the girls, you would just think she was a great mother."

Child-protective officials were interviewing Schlosser's daughters and would talk to the father before deciding whether to remove the girls from the home.

In January, the agency was called to the home after Schlosser was seen running down the street, with one of her daughters bicycling after her, authorities said. When officials arrived, the child told them her mother had left her 6-day-old sister alone in the apartment.

Schlosser appeared at the time to be suffering from postpartum depression and having a psychotic episode, Gonzales said.

Schlosser was hospitalized, and later agreed to seek counseling and saw a psychiatrist, Gonzales said.

"At the time we closed the case, we had been assured that Mom was stabilized and that she was not a risk to herself or her children," Geoff Wool, spokesman for the Family and Protective Services Department, said.


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A very sad story and a horrible end to a young life.
1 posted on 11/23/2004 11:57:32 AM PST by Jersey Republican Biker Chick
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

Just shoot her. Really, this is going to be a big drag only to arrive at the inevitable conclusion that she's nuts and beyond repair. Just put her in the ground now and save the taxpayers some money. People like can;t go into the rehabilitation system because the moment they do, there's always the chance some moron of a doctor will declare her "cured" after a few years.


2 posted on 11/23/2004 11:59:50 AM PST by Trippin
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick
Schlosser appeared at the time to be suffering from postpartum depression and having a psychotic episode, Gonzales said.

Duly noted. Now, hang her.
3 posted on 11/23/2004 12:00:27 PM PST by wasp69 (Hey, DUmmies! Can ya feel it? Does it hurt?)
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

The cops need to drag the woman outside and shoot her in the head before NOW starts squawk'n about how the mom is the real victim.


4 posted on 11/23/2004 12:00:41 PM PST by mlbford2 ("Never wrestle with a pig; you can't win, you just get filthy, and the pig loves it...")
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To: Trippin; wasp69; mlbford2

At least it is Texas, maybe she will get the death penalty! I am all for eliminating the middle man and killing her now!


5 posted on 11/23/2004 12:03:21 PM PST by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (Never play leapfrog with a unicorn!)
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick; 2nd amendment mama; A2J; Agitate; Alouette; Annie03; aposiopetic; ...
Well, it's not much different than what Planned Parenthood does.

ProLife Ping!

If anyone wants on or off my ProLife Ping List, please notify me here or by freepmail.

6 posted on 11/23/2004 12:03:52 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (The people walking in darkness have seen a great light...)
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To: All
but Texas Child Protective Services had recently closed a seven-month investigation, concluding that Schlosser did not pose a risk to her children.

Unbelievable how absolutely incompetent Social Services are - in every state, not just Texas. This caseworker should be charged and go to jail along with mama.

7 posted on 11/23/2004 12:03:57 PM PST by michaelbfree
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

Why is this woman still breathing?


8 posted on 11/23/2004 12:04:31 PM PST by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

That poor baby...


9 posted on 11/23/2004 12:07:15 PM PST by Arpege92 (Modern liberalism requires everyone to look different but think the same. - Lizavetta)
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick
I think I heard WBAP mention something about the gospel hymn "He Touched Me" being played in the background in her apartment.

That's nice.

10 posted on 11/23/2004 12:07:24 PM PST by harbinger of doom (Last time I checked)
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To: Bikers4Bush

Cut her arms off and let her bleed out.


11 posted on 11/23/2004 12:10:36 PM PST by tai-pan (mainstream WHAT?)
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To: harbinger of doom
I heard this on the radio on the way to work this morning. I found it on Court TV on my lunch break. I didn't find it posted by anyone else, so I decided to post it. I did hear that the hymn "He Touched Me" was playing in the background of the 911 call.
12 posted on 11/23/2004 12:10:52 PM PST by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (Never play leapfrog with a unicorn!)
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To: Arpege92

We should send her to Iraq and let the insane terrorists cut her limbs off. At least they would be doing us a favor.


What the hell is wrong with people.

That baby never did anything to deserve such a gruesome death.


13 posted on 11/23/2004 12:11:38 PM PST by t-1000
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

Folks need to read about saline abortions and dismemberment and extraction, etc. The abortion industry has been serially killing alive children for decades. The outrage and sadness over this murder is what is surprising. I've often thought it was impossible to prosecute a female who kills a child she is in the process of brithing. What part of 'a woman's right to choose' gets misinterpreted?


14 posted on 11/23/2004 12:13:29 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick
I didn't know Andrea Yates had a twin sister.

I'm sitting here now with my 10-day-old grandson. I think that I would rip the arms off of anyone who tried to hurt him. I felt the same way about his mother when she was a little baby.

15 posted on 11/23/2004 12:15:30 PM PST by Alouette (When the wicked perish, there is jubilation! Proverbs 11:10)
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To: MHGinTN

14 posts & no one has blamed dad yet.


16 posted on 11/23/2004 12:15:52 PM PST by skeeter
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To: tai-pan

Exactly.


17 posted on 11/23/2004 12:15:58 PM PST by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

"At least it is Texas, maybe she will get the death penalty! I am all for eliminating the middle man and killing her now!"

Doubt she'll get the death penalty. Andrea Yates killed her five kids in Texas and she didn't get the death sentence. Unfortunately when it comes to women killing their kids, Texas hasn't lived up to it's reputation.


18 posted on 11/23/2004 12:17:27 PM PST by blaquebyrd
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To: blaquebyrd

Then i guess someone should find a way to make an example of her.

I could not guard this woman in jail, because I don't think I could resist doing unto her what she did unto her baby!!


19 posted on 11/23/2004 12:20:41 PM PST by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (Never play leapfrog with a unicorn!)
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To: MHGinTN
Your bring up an valid point my friend.
She is only guilty of murder by 10 months. Before that she could have dismembered her child with the governments blessing. What is it now? Around 3300 a day?

Regards,
GE
20 posted on 11/23/2004 12:22:45 PM PST by GrandEagle
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To: All

Speaking of Texas killer moms.
Has anyone heard anything about Darlie Routier lately?
Been awhile and would think her time to ride the magic needle is close


21 posted on 11/23/2004 12:25:07 PM PST by 76834
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To: blaquebyrd
Unfortunately when it comes to women killing their kids, Texas hasn't lived up to it's reputation.

Two words... Darlee Routier.

22 posted on 11/23/2004 12:27:29 PM PST by Stonedog (I don't know what your problem is, but I bet it's difficult to pronounce.)
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick; MeekOneGOP

Too bad Texas doesn't still use Old Sparky to execute prisoners rather than lethal injection.


23 posted on 11/23/2004 12:30:07 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: Paleo Conservative

LOL
Guess I'm more old fashioned than you.
A gallows on the courthouse square would be even better.


24 posted on 11/23/2004 12:32:00 PM PST by 76834
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick
Child-protective officials were interviewing Schlosser's daughters and would talk to the father before deciding whether to remove the girls from the home.

I'm speechless....no I'm not: What the heck has the father done? Where were you busybodies before the baby died? The father hasn't done a thing that we know of!

25 posted on 11/23/2004 12:35:35 PM PST by Ignatz (Getting a great tan in the sun of my own grandeur)
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To: Ignatz

As far as we know the father hasn't done anything. But, he must have been suspicious of something because he called the day care to check on the baby. Maybe he was checking if the mother had taken the baby there. He was unfortunately negligent for leaving a depressed and delusional woman alone with the baby. I do not think that he meant any harm to any of the children. But, if he knew his wife was a threat to the children, he should have done something.


26 posted on 11/23/2004 12:41:34 PM PST by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (Never play leapfrog with a unicorn!)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Good point! Baby killers all of 'em. Maybe this won't be the right case for the liberals to rally 'round.


27 posted on 11/23/2004 12:43:41 PM PST by uncitizen
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To: michaelbfree

Unbelievable how absolutely incompetent Social Services are - in every state, not just Texas. This caseworker should be charged and go to jail along with mama.""

I am convinced that this is an area of career that totally incompetant people seek out. JMO.


28 posted on 11/23/2004 12:51:09 PM PST by ridesthemiles (ridesthemiles)
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To: 76834

In this case draw and quarter would be the perfect punishment.


29 posted on 11/23/2004 1:06:15 PM PST by looscnnn ("Live free or die; death is not the worst of evils" Gen. John Stark 1809)
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To: Trippin

I have to agree. I am a Parent. It really sickens me to death. It would be better if she was shot. Sometimes I think people who do stuff like that need to have the same treatment as the people they hurt,especially children.


30 posted on 11/23/2004 1:06:43 PM PST by BigBlueJon
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To: skeeter

Why should the dad be to blame? Dad was at work and I kind of got the impression he was not living with her.


31 posted on 11/23/2004 1:07:28 PM PST by looscnnn ("Live free or die; death is not the worst of evils" Gen. John Stark 1809)
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

This story has sort of put me in shock. I keep thinking it can't be real - it's nightmarish.

God hold close the little one who suffered through this.


32 posted on 11/23/2004 1:10:42 PM PST by Puddleglum (Thank God the Boston blowhard lost)
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

she should be locked in a cell with Kathy Yates...who can give her a bath


33 posted on 11/23/2004 1:12:19 PM PST by Jon Alvarez
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To: Stonedog; 76834
Darlee Routier

It's so weird how this happens all the time on FR. Nearly identical back to back posts by different people.

Anyway, there was a FReeper a while back who had worked in her and her husbands company and was following the case closely. I can't seem to remember the FReepers name, but a search on Darlee Routier might bring it up.

34 posted on 11/23/2004 1:12:55 PM PST by retrokitten (Hell yeah!)
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

That's what I thought...thanks for the confirmation.


35 posted on 11/23/2004 1:13:12 PM PST by harbinger of doom (Last time I checked)
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To: michaelbfree

Yeah, this is what I posted when I first heard of this atrocity:



“She was doing well,” Ms. Gonzales said (The Child Services Caseworker commenting on this beast's ongoing therapy - leading up to this horrific act)

So much for 1) Our fully competent and caring governmental protectors and 2) So much for the psychiatrists who, for the most part, practice Voodoo medicine!

This just makes me sick.


36 posted on 11/23/2004 1:18:59 PM PST by drt1
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To: looscnnn

Hey I'm just anticipating the inevitable on a domestic violence thread.


37 posted on 11/23/2004 1:33:41 PM PST by skeeter
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To: Paleo Conservative; 76834
hahahaaaa!! That would get the Libs out and cranky!

I have no sympathy for these scum, either.


38 posted on 11/23/2004 1:45:56 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

I'm sure when the "lifetime network" re-creates this into one of their brainwashing movies,the father will be held at fault!The way women have degenerated i'm surprised they are not eating their young!Thanks to NOW,abortion and the government interfering in families,this will be the way of the future.


39 posted on 11/23/2004 2:40:10 PM PST by INSENSITIVE GUY
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To: Mr. Silverback
Well, it's not much different than what Planned Parenthood does.

Well, actually it is. Abortionists are sane and prefer to crush the baby's skull first before chopping up the entire body.

40 posted on 11/23/2004 2:44:07 PM PST by Slyfox
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perp

41 posted on 11/23/2004 3:07:45 PM PST by KneelBeforeZod (Deus Lo Volt!)
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

A horror story...a mom doing the unthinkable to her own baby....

Yet had she had an MD and did this in a nice clinical setting with the blessings of the state
she could do this 20 times a day...and be highly regarded socially and quite well off financially.
imo


42 posted on 11/23/2004 3:32:10 PM PST by joesnuffy ("The merit of our Constitution was, not that it promotes democracy, but checks it." Horatio Seymour)
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

Schlosser appeared at the time to be suffering from postpartum depression and having a psychotic episode, Gonzales said.

Schlosser was hospitalized, and later agreed to seek counseling and saw a psychiatrist, Gonzales said.

Someone needs to find out what drugs the fine folks at the hospital prescribed. Most of these horror-job, nut cases have been on some of the newer 'designer' drugs that the good doctors are prescribing.

43 posted on 11/23/2004 5:31:21 PM PST by freeatlast
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To: Trippin

BUMP to that. We know she did it. We know she's crazy. We know there is a chance she could get out if she's sent to an asylum. We know people can't be reliably cured of this kind of crazy.

Where is Jack Ruby when you need him!?!?


44 posted on 11/23/2004 5:35:13 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (NO BLOOD FOR CHOCOLATE! Get the UN-ignoring, unilateralist Frogs out of Ivory Coast!)
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To: skeeter

Why were you expecting that?


45 posted on 11/23/2004 5:35:59 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (NO BLOOD FOR CHOCOLATE! Get the UN-ignoring, unilateralist Frogs out of Ivory Coast!)
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

I wish you had not posted this. It makes me ache everytime I scroll past it.


46 posted on 11/23/2004 5:41:55 PM PST by Ditter
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick
There are a lot of very troubled people out there. This woman obviously is one and deserves to be incarcerated. I will not comment on the death penalty, as this woman is mentally deranged.

I was curious as to the dark sides take on this subject so I trolled over there. This is one response from "Garbage at DU" who seems to be arguing that this is somehow the government's, or the nations fault, because this could have been prevented with an abortion. Here is her post:

I was a child who would've been aborted if Roe had only occurred ten years sooner. My mother tried several times to get an abortion, but the damage the pregnancy was doing to her wasn't lethal (although it was permanent) and being raped by your husband wasn't rape in the sixties. She abused me for twenty years because she wanted to make me suffer for existing.

Abortion would've spared me. I wish the country had gotten a clue sooner.

Words fail me.

47 posted on 11/23/2004 5:55:36 PM PST by Michael.SF. (Paris Hilton and Anna Nicole Smith: living proof that one need not be poor to be white trash.)
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To: Ditter
"I wish you had not posted this. It makes me ache everytime I scroll past it."

I posted it because of the outrage I had at this gruesome crime. I don't understand what this world is coming to when something like this happens.

48 posted on 11/23/2004 6:15:06 PM PST by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (Never play leapfrog with a unicorn!)
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To: Michael.SF.

That is typical of the DU. They would blame everyone except for the monster that dismembered her baby. And as for wishing that you had been aborted, I can't fathom the self hatred that one must have to think that way.


49 posted on 11/23/2004 6:18:33 PM PST by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (Never play leapfrog with a unicorn!)
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

There have always been crazy people who do horrific things. This is not new. I am outraged too but I heard it on the radio, I saw it in the paper I don't want to think about it any more.


50 posted on 11/23/2004 6:19:46 PM PST by Ditter
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