Skip to comments.Breaking News: Russian Troops Intervening in Ukraine Elections
Posted on 11/23/2004 4:38:52 PM PST by ModelBreaker
From: Bob Schaffer
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 12:10 PM
Friends: some of you know I am in Ukraine as an election monitor. The presidential election was Sunday. There was rampant cheating and falsification reported throughout the country. I can't go into all details of election. I'm using a blackberry to communicate with lots of USA people, news agencies and Ukrainians. Please check news sources on the Ukrainian election background if you're not familiar. Also, I'll be regularly updating the Denver Post. They're setting their web site to post my updates.
Here's the latest:
Russian special forces dressed in Ukrainian Special forces uniforms are in Kyiv. Ukrainian militia have been instructed by the mayor to protect the people from the Russian troops. Ukrainian militia have established a hotline for Ukrainians to report any incidents with the Russians and pledged to protect Ukrainians. These Russians flew into Ukraine this morning. They're now surrounding the administration buildings they say "to protect Kuchma (the outgoing president and his PM Yanukovich). Following is a chain of email messages I've been sending by blackberry. Please pass along to others. Bob Schaffer
PETER: PLEASE SEE UPDATES BELOW. GETTING QUITE SERIOUS NOW. OUR EMBASSY'S PHONES ARE DOWN AND WE'RE NOT SURE THEY'RE AWARE OF THE NEWS OF RUSSIANS (SEE BELOW). YES, PLEASE SEND INFO TO ANYONE YOU CAN, ESPECIALLY PRESS. BOB
---------- Dan: is there anything you can do to alert someone in the Denver media to look at news coming out of Ukraine? I know this isn't our normal "beat," but this seems quite serious here. I'll paste below a message I just sent to a ukrainian group. I've been updating several people by blackerrying them events from the street and from the local news. Bob
---------- Yes. I'm safe for now. Demonstrators are reassembling in Kyiv. They're coming back stronger than yesterday coming in from the rest of the country. The authorities are trying to stop them. Cars and busses are being stopped by police at the outskirts of the city. The authorities have scattered road spikes on inbound lanes to stop traffic/protesters. People are walking down the highways to protest. Trains into the city have been stopped.
The parliament is meeting now but without the president's supporters or the Communists. After several speeches, they called Yushchenko to the podium to swear him in as the new president (escorted to the podium with guards). The Rada Speaker Litvin walked out. Then the TV station (only one station covers anything about the election and it only covers 30% of the country) went off then cut to news and footage from earlier in the day. This is similar to the revolution in Georgia.
It seems the opposition has now claimed control of the parliament and most likely named Yushchenko as the president. He walked to the podium with a Bible and a copy of the oath in his hand. 300,000 pro-Yushchenko supporters are in the city square and watched what I described above on a jumbo TV. They're celebrating what they believe is their new president. Provocateurs are infiltrating the crowd. Special forces are said to be moving in to disband the crowd. This is now a clearly declared revolutionary effort. A confrontation seems unavoidable now.
It's very tense here. School has been cancled (again) for tomorrow. I'll report more as I learn it.
Now we hear Yushchenko is headed to the city center to address the masses. His lieutenants will be giving instructions to the people outside the Rada building on "what to do."
Telephones in the outlying towns have been shut off.
Now we hear there are Russians in Ukrainian special forces uniforms.
I'll report more as I learn it. May God bless and protect Ukraine and her people.
A representative of the Greek Catholic Church (a man who appeared to be a priest -- dressed as one) announced at the demonstration that he was speaking on behalf of the Greek Catholic Churchn the Kyiv Patriarchiat and several Protestant denominations (Lutheran was the only specific one I heard but there were several others). He said this coalition of churches recognizes Yushchenko as president.
Yuschenko is now leading 1 million people from the square and surrounding streets to the administration headquarters of the Ukrainian government. He is in front of the column and many fear he is vulnerable to getting shot. They should be at the steps in 15 mins. Keep in mind, this is where the Russian special forces are stationed, dresses in Ukrainian garb.
If violence comes to define this revolution it will likely be within minutes.
The Georgian President (surrounded by Orthodox priests) just appeared on Ukrainian TV congratulating and encouraging the opposition supporters and "President" Victor Yushchenko. He spoke in Ukrainian which is very significant.
The Russian special forces just stopped the crowd approaching the administration headquarters.
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JB6 and ELUMINATE are obvious lap dogs of Yanukovych, Russians, and are old commie propagandist, please disregard their drivel. Too much like Dan Rather.
Ukraine will shake the commie "protectorate" off, they had enough of it already.
So are you saying the goals of Soros - are one and the same as those of President Bush - ? Wow -
Interesting two articles - full of information but not sure how much to believe -
Would explain the illegals, the Bush support of Clinton - allowing the major media to work as they are - but how hard it is to believe that Soros and Bush are on the same page just going about the "goals" differently - Like take what you want - as long as it makes 'money' -
What good is money - when God gets through with them - ?
A lot of American citizens will either end up dead or in jail if this is true - in the end that is -
Well, these could be the players.
George Soros is attacked with mayonnaise before opening a forum on election rights protection. Hotel Rus, Kyiv, March 31
Viktor Yushchenko a Soros man.
A Ukrainian opposition weekly Svoboda has doubted the sincerity of the coming visit to Ukraine by former US Secretary of State Henry Kissinger at the invitation of magnate Viktor Pinchuk, the Ukrainian president's son-in-law.
It said the visit comes on the eve of the election and in the wake of a recent visit by US philanthropist and financier George Soros.
There is ethnic solidarity between the three mentioned persons of Jewish origin. Soros and Kissinger have been bought for dirty money "obtained" by Pinchuk in Ukraine thanks to his closeness to Kuchma.
What a Wild $ Crazy election!!!
Anyway, I'll be watching the Ukraninian Girls!
Please read the two article from link on post #75 -
Wow - really something - so much is put out these days -
No wonder all the nations of the world are in such a mess
Got a good idea there - much better than trying to figure out the power plays of the big boys of the world -
They certainly have changed also - can remember the pictures from long ago -
Have fun girl watching - with beer and/or popcorn -
You can always count on the Soviets (Putin's Russia) to act like Soviets (be sure to read original post on this thread):
Ping this thread to as many as you can think of--TTS
Have you seen this yet?
I wonder what the Putin Parade is going to say about this one--TTS
Hey - Tap - you are late on this -
Need to read a couple of articles at post #75 - interesting at the very least - puts a whole new light on things -
With all the information from both sides coming out - hard to know what is going on - and which side is correct - I'd hate to think we have another Yugo. going on -
If you hear anything new, please keep us updated.
It's just a reminder--countries have interests, not allies. Anyone who forgets that will be quickly reminded that they are wrong.
Funny how Yanukovitch has been as visible as Hitler in his bunker since the elections on Sunday. Meanwhile, Kuchma cannot even trust his own military, he has to be protected by specially flown in Russian Spetznaz forces.
I find it amazing that so many commies are crawling out of the woodwork on Free Republic today to support a mobster like Yanukovitch. Keep in mind, this guy has been convicted twice of very serious crimes, including rape of an 16 year old girl, and has had two other convictions suppressed.
I agree. Sounds like the Pro-Russian guy won the election and the Soros-backed liberal loser is whinning about 'exit polls'. I'm suprised that many Freepers on this thread are backing the Ukrainian DU/Soros loser.
One Freeper is even basing his support on what some liberal democrat "American" election observer has to say about it.
I will ping you to a thread where ANYBODY who is thinking like us is accused of being a RUSSIAN PLANT or spy or a dupe.