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HOLLYWOOD IS TAKING BEATING AT BOX OFFICE
New York Post ^ | 11/24/04 | BILL HOFFMANN

Posted on 11/23/2004 11:24:10 PM PST by kattracks

Lights! Camera! Agita!

Despite monster hits like "The Incredibles" and "Shark Tale," Hollywood is hurting this season, with overall box-office earnings down well below the take in the same period for the previous two years.

In the 10 weeks from Labor Day to just before Thanksgiving, the film industry grossed $1.39 billion, down 14 percent from last year's record of $1.63 billion and off 12 percent from $1.59 billion in 2002.

Fall ticket sales were a bust as well, dropping 18 percent from last year's figure, from 268.3 million ducats to 219.9 million. This year's sales also were below the 222.8 million reported in 1998.

Analysts lamented that the first part of the post-summer season was, to put it in movie terms, a colossal bomb.

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The Hollywood Reporter blames a shorter-than-usual season for some of the drop in income. This year's fall season was one of the more frequently occurring 10-week periods, while the previous two years were both 11-week seasons.

But the industry mag concluded the dramatic decline was caused by a combination of bad movies and bad buzz about them.


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: boxoffice; haha; hollywood; hooray; money; movies; sharktale; skid; theincredibles
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1 posted on 11/23/2004 11:24:10 PM PST by kattracks
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To: kattracks

They are missing the hobbits now!


2 posted on 11/23/2004 11:28:59 PM PST by Lawdoc
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To: kattracks

It appears that it's time to Pay the Price for past indiscretions towards the country and our President. Lets hope that the RED STATES will punish all those Hollywood types who crossed the line by Bashing our President.


3 posted on 11/23/2004 11:30:35 PM PST by Rabble (Arlen Specter -- Betraying America and his party for 24 Years)
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To: kattracks
The Hollywood Reporter blames a shorter-than-usual season for some of the drop in income. This year's fall season was one of the more frequently occurring 10-week periods, while the previous two years were both 11-week seasons.

Plus all the movies suck.

4 posted on 11/23/2004 11:33:15 PM PST by Question Liberal Authority (RE-DEFEAT KERRY in 2008!)
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To: kattracks
Alexander will sink them even further. It's getting BAD reviews. A couple of quotes from one review:

The movie forms a narrative that for a large part, doesn't make sense. And then, an hour later, scenes that should have been present early within the film are added back in to almost no effect.

. . .

I sat next to a VP of a major national theater chain who walked out of the screening, yelled back to the camera person "Jesus, are they trying to kill us? Who thought this piece of s*** would make money? I've got much better things to do."

. . .

This film lays there like an underpaid hooker and never seems to get up.
5 posted on 11/23/2004 11:33:45 PM PST by Rastus
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To: Rabble
this is true for me....I just don't care to spend money seeing imbeciles who have shown nothing but contempt for our Prez......

I'd just as soon stay home and watch reruns....

6 posted on 11/23/2004 11:36:33 PM PST by cherry
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To: kattracks
HOLLYWOOD IS TAKING BEATING AT BOX OFFICE

Give it 3 months and I bet there's a movie made about it....

7 posted on 11/23/2004 11:37:23 PM PST by EGPWS
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To: kattracks

After a while people just tire of paying $10-15 to be assaulted for 2 hours by vulgarities,murders,incest,and all sorts of deviant behaviors all without decent dialogue or acting talent.Now for that money you can rent an arm load of oldies but goodies that everybody in the family can watch.


8 posted on 11/23/2004 11:37:23 PM PST by nothernlights
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To: nothernlights
After a while people just tire of paying $10-15 to be assaulted for 2 hours by vulgarities,murders,incest,and all sorts of deviant behaviors all without decent dialog or acting talent.

Exactly!

After all why spend money on something that one can get for free just by driving to work?

9 posted on 11/23/2004 11:40:16 PM PST by EGPWS
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To: kattracks

When entertainment figures trade on their celebrity status
to make political statements, why would they be surprised
when the audience turns its entertainment dollars into
political statements.

Hollywood is mostly in the business of filling the
screen with lies (fiction) that is biased to support a
philosophy that if achieved, would get the audience
impoverished, enslaved and ultimately killed. We would
want to pay for this precisely why?


10 posted on 11/23/2004 11:40:39 PM PST by Boundless (The Galaxy Quest conjecture: if space aliens arrived, would they have fiction?)
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To: kattracks
Few in Hollywood seem to grasp that what people want are movies they can see with their families. Look at the top 10 grossing movies ever and, as I recall, 9 of the 10 were PG or G...but Hollywood would rather make soft core porn movies or massively bloody, plot-less movies.
11 posted on 11/23/2004 11:44:44 PM PST by highlander_UW (Democrat - the party of racism, disenfranchisement and hatred)
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To: kattracks

Well!! Well!! Well!! Jollywood, They must be Sodomizing each other, hoping to reach a higher plain of understanding to find out why no one wants to see their stupid, disfunctional, ignorant, foulmouthed, gross picture with no talent acting. They tell each other how great they are, that's how they are great!!

I've got movies on tape. Movies that were made when movies were worth watching. I getting so sick of TV and all the commercials, I think I'll join a book club!!


12 posted on 11/23/2004 11:44:59 PM PST by 26lemoncharlie (Defending America)
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To: Rabble

Actually, I thought National Treasure was a fun movie that showed a lot of reverence for American History and the Founding Fathers. I wouldn't mind seeing it crush Fahrenheit 911 at the Box Office.


13 posted on 11/23/2004 11:46:16 PM PST by Question Liberal Authority (RE-DEFEAT KERRY in 2008!)
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To: nothernlights

You're talking about "Kinsey", right?

A more execrable "hero" for a movie I can't imagine.


14 posted on 11/23/2004 11:46:20 PM PST by little jeremiah (Moral absolutes are what make humans human.)
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To: kattracks
Well, I liked the Incredibles. Quite libertarian movie and surely was anti-PC, IMO.

Polar Express is financed by Steve Bing. He invested about 80 mil on it. So far, the movie has made 53 mil in its 13th day. His other investment: Kerry. Bing gave about 15 mil.

15 posted on 11/23/2004 11:50:04 PM PST by paudio (Four More Years..... Let's Use Them Wisely...)
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To: Rastus

Alexander the Great is now dubbed Oliver Stone's Alexander the Gay. (per fox news) Mothers and Fathers are not going to take their children to see a movie depicting San Francisco homosexuality.

The commercials now rapidly show the nobody reviewers in order to create the illusion for positive reviews. (remember when sony was caught MAKING UP reviewers for films with no positive reviews.)

Definitly NOT for family or holiday viewing.


16 posted on 11/24/2004 12:00:39 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: paudio

The Incredibles was great! I have seen it three times and plan to go again.

Even though my husband and I try to go to the movies a few times a month, we refused to see the slasher flicks they had out; refused to see that Susan Sarandan dance movie because I will not support her no matter what; we refused to see the new Pierce Brosnan movie because he is another stupid lib who can't keep his mouth shut about politics, and we WILL NOT go see the upcoming movie that is a sequel to Meet the Parents ... because Babs is in that one. We did see Mel Gibson's Paparazzi movie, that was the last one we saw before the Incredibles.

Another good one was Ladder 49, if anyone hadn't seen it.

Thanks for the info on Steve Bing; I won't see Polar Express now. We went to National Treasure tonight; it was a fun escapist movie. But I wonder when Hollywood is going to figure it out, that we don't want to give more money to the people who keep telling us what stupid repugnant (Julia Roberts) morons we are because we are Republicans or support our President.


17 posted on 11/24/2004 12:03:24 AM PST by Rocky Mountain Mama (four more years of tax cuts and dead terrorists)
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To: longtermmemmory

When will they learn that people just won't pay to see crap no matter who is in it.


18 posted on 11/24/2004 12:05:11 AM PST by derllak
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To: longtermmemmory

David Manning, fictional reviewer of The Animal.

They used three quotes from darkhorizons.com. I haven't been there in years, but they used to post "regular guy" reviews--real Usenet-level stuff. That's what it's come down to for Alexander. If they had to scrape any deeper, they'd be quoting AICN talk-backers.

BTW, Alexander's up to 14% at Rotten Tomatoes! Whoo hoo! Their "cream of the crop" reviewers are up to 15%. Dismal.


19 posted on 11/24/2004 12:06:09 AM PST by Rastus
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To: longtermmemmory; Boundless

I would loved to go see a film about Alexander the Great that just didn't discuss his sexuality at all. I think it would be fascinating!

But I will never see this film. Hollywood is stupid. As Boundless said, above: "When entertainment figures trade on their celebrity status
to make political statements, why would they be surprised
when the audience turns its entertainment dollars into
political statements."


20 posted on 11/24/2004 12:08:11 AM PST by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: Rocky Mountain Mama

What did Pierce Brosnan say or do? Hadn't heard his name mentioned before.


21 posted on 11/24/2004 12:09:55 AM PST by SAMS
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To: Question Liberal Authority
Plus all the movies suck.

Counting down the minutes until the MPAA issues a press release that blames Internet downloaders for causing the slump in revenue 5 ... 4 ... 3 ... 2 ... 1 ...

22 posted on 11/24/2004 12:12:04 AM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: kattracks
"Hollywood is hurting this season, with overall box-office earnings down . . . "

Maybe they should have spent more time pushing tickets at the ticket box than they did pushing crap down the ballot box.

23 posted on 11/24/2004 12:15:34 AM PST by Eastbound ("Neither a Scrooge nor a Patsy be")
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To: SAMS

"What did Pierce Brosnan say or do? Hadn't heard his name mentioned before."

When he was promoting the last Bond flick, whenever that was, I saw him on one of those talk shows on TV, and he said he was working on getting his American citizenship so he could vote in the next election, because Bush was such a disaster, and all the DNC talking points followed.


24 posted on 11/24/2004 12:22:01 AM PST by Rocky Mountain Mama (four more years of tax cuts and dead terrorists)
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To: kattracks

If they made more good movies instead of the standard "Summer of the Sequel" we get every year, they'd do better.

Me, I've been taking solace with Netflix. I've discovered Akira Kurosawa's films. He may very well be my favorite live-action film director.


25 posted on 11/24/2004 12:24:48 AM PST by baseballfanjm
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To: paudio
Polar Express is financed by Steve Bing. He invested about 80 mil on it. So far, the movie has made 53 mil in its 13th day. His other investment: Kerry. Bing gave about 15 mil.

Gosh, I am hoping and praying (snicker) that Bing-a-ling did not engage in icky Enron-style accounting procedures to hedge his huge losses on Polar Express, and his Kerry investment debacle, and maybe try to fool the IRS, the SEC, and the FEC.........stuff like that.

That's standard operating procedure in Follywood.....cooking the books. And it's time someone did something about it.

There's been numerous instances of Hollyweirdos book-cooking.....in one notorious case actor Robert Wagner was forced to sue Aaron Spelling (he of mega-hit fame) b/c Spelling cheated Wagner out of profits from an investment in a Spelling production. Many do not sue, fearing bad PR, loss of corner tables at Le Dome, and no invitations to A-list parties.

Same goes for Michael Moore. F/911 was supposed to be a big hit. But I am skeptical. Every store I shop for DVD's, I see piles of F/911 stacked up. Nobody's buying the trash. I do hope and pray Moore did not engage in sloppy bookeeping to show profits for 9/11 where none existed (smirk).

26 posted on 11/24/2004 12:29:22 AM PST by Liz
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To: kattracks

Great news!!


27 posted on 11/24/2004 12:36:39 AM PST by AnimalLover ((Are there special rules and regulations for the big guys?))
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To: Rocky Mountain Mama

Oh, too bad, I liked him in "Evelyn" Now I'll add him to my list...


28 posted on 11/24/2004 12:42:37 AM PST by SAMS
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To: kattracks
When a persons own life and reality becomes more interesting to them than what they see on the screen the poor quality movies don't have a chance to be seen. Film-making has almost reached its ultimate conclusion. As the saying goes "Pop will eat itself."
29 posted on 11/24/2004 12:52:56 AM PST by Bandaneira (The Third Temple/House for All Nations/World Peace Centre...Coming Soon...)
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To: nothernlights
After a while people just tire of paying $10-15 to be assaulted for 2 hours by vulgarities,murders,incest,and all sorts of deviant behaviors all without decent dialogue or acting talent.Now for that money you can rent an arm load of oldies but goodies that everybody in the family can watch.

I can't recall the last time I paid to see a movie, but I think it cost about $2.50 in my small city.

I am just tired of their garbage- I haven't watched TV much since impeachment, either, when it became blatant that the Media- all of it- was in the tank for Democrats.

Why pay to be insulted?

30 posted on 11/24/2004 1:03:00 AM PST by backhoe
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To: Liz
/911 was supposed to be a big hit. But I am skeptical. Every store I shop for DVD's, I see piles of F/911 stacked up. Nobody's buying the trash.

Those who wanted to see this trash had watched. The rest, well, they're too smart to spend money on it.

31 posted on 11/24/2004 1:04:18 AM PST by paudio (Four More Years..... Let's Use Them Wisely...)
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To: paudio
.....they're too smart to spend money on it.....

Right, and if Moore is showing profits where there are none, Sarbanes-Oxley could be coming to a theatre near him.

32 posted on 11/24/2004 1:09:49 AM PST by Liz
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To: Liz
I hardly even bother with Hollywood Big-Flop crap and the last time I was in a theatre was the last LOTR...but Military History is a big interest for me and
I did catch an hour on Alexander the Great on the Discovery Channel last night. Terrific and extremely well done, a brief history of Alex, his father/mother & Macedonia and a superb discussion of the leadership and battle tactics of his victory over the King of Persiaeven tho he was outnumbered by 5-1 or more by the Persians. The show utilized several US Military & West Point historians and tacticians to talk about how the study of Alexander's tremendous leadership characteristics and abilities continues to permeate our military. Highly recommended.
33 posted on 11/24/2004 1:56:44 AM PST by iopscusa (El Vaquero)
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To: kattracks

When I saw "Shark Tales" I thought oboy Hollywood is jumping the shark!


34 posted on 11/24/2004 2:10:31 AM PST by 8mmMauser
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To: Question Liberal Authority
The Incredibles and National Treasure are about the only movies in theaters at the moment I'd recommend anyone seeing. Both were entertaining and didn't have the sex scenes that every Hollyweird production seems to have these days.

I have some vague hopes for Oceans 12, but I'm sure they'll blow that franchise away through some stupid scene or another.
35 posted on 11/24/2004 2:15:43 AM PST by kingu (Which would you bet on? Iraq and Afghanistan? Or Haiti and Kosovo?)
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To: longtermmemmory
Alexander the Great is now dubbed Oliver Stone's Alexander the Gay. (per fox news) Mothers and Fathers are not going to take their children to see a movie depicting San Francisco homosexuality.

Sounds like you summed it up better than FOX. I just got a mental imagine of the movie where Alex plans out his battle in a steamy bath house full of lisping soldiers in tight armor. He slowly to his general, "Leths go get thoth nasty Perthians!" Sounds more and more like a Mel Brooks comedy gone bad.

I think I'll see "The Incredibles".

36 posted on 11/24/2004 2:23:01 AM PST by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Question Liberal Authority

I believe the gent (Buckhalter maybe?) who produced National Treasure also produced Team America. He may be one of the good guys.


37 posted on 11/24/2004 2:38:53 AM PST by Quilla
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To: kingu
The Incredibles and National Treasure are about the only movies in theaters at the moment I'd recommend anyone seeing. Both were entertaining and didn't have the sex scenes that every Hollyweird production seems to have these days.

I can't abide Nicolas Cage. I don't think he has an ounce of charisma or stage presence. I could never understand why they keep making big budget movies with him. Then I found out his real name's Cuppola. Oh.

The Incredibles, however, deserves every dime of the zillions and zillions it's going to make.

38 posted on 11/24/2004 2:52:32 AM PST by prion (Yes, as a matter of fact, I AM the spelling police)
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To: kattracks
They could re-release Fahrenheit 9-11?
39 posted on 11/24/2004 2:54:18 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: Rabble

Any loss at the "Box Office" will be made up in DVD sales. Blackbird.


40 posted on 11/24/2004 3:11:14 AM PST by BlackbirdSST
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To: SkyPilot

I think another big reason for the drop is computer games. Halo2 raked in huge amounts of cash. Kids are playing incredible games! The graphics are stunning, The game play excellent and the replay value is high. Why go to a movie for gods sake? You get so much more action and so much more story from a game at home.
I'm glad to indulge in some shadenfraude at hollywoods expense but I suspect other causes rather than Red State anger.
Having said that, I have not been to a theater since RoTK. The movies lately have been crap thrown out so that they can write off the loses. I plan to see the Incredibles this holiday weekend. The only movie I would like to see besides National Treasure is Ray. I am surpised how much excitement Ray did Not generate though.


41 posted on 11/24/2004 3:21:37 AM PST by SSR1
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To: Rocky Mountain Mama

Add Julia "republican is between reptile & repugnant" Roberts to your list of refusing to watch.


42 posted on 11/24/2004 3:22:41 AM PST by Alissa
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To: cherry

"I'd just as soon stay home and watch reruns...."


In the past movies about heroes were made by stars who, in many cases, actually were real life heroes, Glenn Ford for instance. Nowadays movies about heroes are mostly made by stars you wouldn't want to share space with.


43 posted on 11/24/2004 3:26:46 AM PST by RipSawyer ("Embed" Michael Moore with the 82nd airborne.)
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To: kattracks

I know I won't pay for anything with Sean Penn, Susan Sarandon, Cameron Diaz, Ben Affleck, or a whole host of others. I'm not rewarding anti-Americans with my consumer dollars.

I did buy Passion of the Christ, however.


44 posted on 11/24/2004 3:26:59 AM PST by ez (Let the tolerant tolerate my intolerance!)
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To: FreedomCalls

"Counting down the minutes until the MPAA issues a press release that blames Internet downloaders for causing the slump in revenue 5 ... 4 ... 3 ... 2 ... 1 ..."

Took the kids to see the Incredibles the other night.

Had to sit through a 5 minute header about how "downloading was stealing" and urging people not to buy pirated movies.

Seems they're quite concerned about this.

I can't find it in me to feel sorry for them.


45 posted on 11/24/2004 3:40:37 AM PST by EEDUDE (Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.)
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To: iopscusa

Yes I watched it myself and thought it was great. You could tell the military people they had for consultants had a very high regard for Alexander. To bad Stone didn't watch that before he decided to make Alexander the Gay. He might have had a hit.


46 posted on 11/24/2004 3:59:47 AM PST by El Buscador (Speak softly but carry a big stick and use it.)
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To: kattracks

I managed to break my own vow of supporting comic book movies by missing The Punisher at the theater. After I rented it, I was glad that I did, it was awful. These guys have the reverse Midas touch sometimes, and they seem to make movies that suck in some twisted attempt at commercial appeal. I really dont get it. The Dolph Lundgren Punisher movie was Oscar caliber by comparison...JFK


47 posted on 11/24/2004 4:03:42 AM PST by BADROTOFINGER (Life sucks. Get a helmet.)
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To: kattracks

The radio station that I listen to every morning has a Friday movie review done by a local critic. From his comments during the election campaigns, I believe the guy is a liberal. He is usually pretty fair with his critiques of the films he sees. He even said that everything coming out of Hollywood is pure junk.


48 posted on 11/24/2004 4:06:12 AM PST by PleaseNoMore
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To: Quilla
I believe the gent (Buckhalter maybe?) who produced National Treasure also produced Team America. He may be one of the good guys.

Actually it is Jerry Bruckheimer (sp?), but he didnt produce Team America. The South Park guys copied everything about Bruckheimer's style as sort of a tribute/mockery of his work...JFK

49 posted on 11/24/2004 4:06:35 AM PST by BADROTOFINGER (Life sucks. Get a helmet.)
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To: ez
I have only watched one movie with Jane Fonda in my life. The only reason I watched it is because my wife didn't tell me she was in it before we went to the theater. Oceans 11 has most all the big mouth whiners in it. I am surprised they didn't have the Dixie Chicks in it as well. I will not be watching it either.
50 posted on 11/24/2004 4:06:57 AM PST by El Buscador (Speak softly but carry a big stick and use it.)
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