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SECURITY RULES ANNOY, HUMILIATE PASSENGERS
Miami Herald ^ | Nov. 24, 2004 | Editorial Staff

Posted on 11/24/2004 8:02:30 AM PST by JesseHousman

OUR OPINION: TIGHTEN GUIDELINES OR DITCH INVASIVE SEARCHES

In the brief existence of the Transportation Security Administration since the 9/11 terror attacks, airport-security screeners have been endured more than beloved. Now TSA agents have sunk to a new low of public loathing.

Some screeners have used new rules that allow pat-down searches of passengers to turn the airport check-in process into a humiliating invasion of personal privacy. Scores of women have complained of unnecessary touching and fondling, of searches that resemble ''breast exams'' and of wands placed too vigorously between their legs. The TSA needs to either impose stricter guidelines that eliminate these excesses or abolish the pat-down procedures altogether. We prefer the latter.

Invasive searches

The agency has received more than 250 complaints -- most of them from women, but some from men, too -- since the pat-down procedures began in September. The procedures were begun shortly after two Russian airliners exploded last summer in what authorities believe were the detonations from explosives hidden in the bras of two women passengers. But no definitive causes of the blasts have been determined.

The TSA is concerned enough about the problem that it posted a notice on its website at www.tsa.gov saying that searches are being performed in a professional, respectful manner and that it takes seriously passengers' complaints about invasive searches. Considering the experiences of some passengers, the TSA should add hundreds more unreported ''situations'' to the complaints already received.

Even experienced travelers have been too shaken and embarrassed by the searches to report a problem or think clearly enough to jot down the offending screener's name. Patti LuPone, the singer and actress, says she was forced to remove her belt, shoes, jacket and blouse -- revealing a see-through camisole -- at the security checkpoint at Fort Lauderdale/Hollywood Airport. She said that the ''pat down'' included her groin area and breasts, and that the screener ``was all over me with her hands.''

Humiliating delays

Worse for passengers, a pat-down search exposes them to a Catch-22. If they refuse the search or protest too much, they will be delayed and often miss their flight; or they could be subject to arrest. Forced to choose between a missed flight or personal dignity, most choose to endure the humiliation.

TSA agents can single out for a pat-down search anyone who sets off an alarm -- triggered sometimes by metal supports in bras -- or for any passenger at all based on the screener's ''visual observations.'' That's too much discretion in the hands of sometimes poorly trained screeners. Rather than use this hit-miss approach, the TSA should use more scanning devices that can identify even trace amounts of explosives.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: searches; stunedbeebers; tsa
...after two Russian airliners exploded last summer in what authorities believe were the detonations from explosives hidden in the bras of two women...

There's nothing these muslim women won't do for the cause.

We need to profile passengers and, in cases where the passenger is a possible terrorist, subject the passenger to extensive interview as the Israeli security forces do.

The typical TSA fondler is at best very dumb.

1 posted on 11/24/2004 8:02:32 AM PST by JesseHousman
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To: JesseHousman

Annoo, yo!


2 posted on 11/24/2004 8:04:07 AM PST by TheBigB (<----still tired and red-eyed from this weekend's BAYWATCH marathon on TV Land.)
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To: JesseHousman

I hate to be annooyo'ed


3 posted on 11/24/2004 8:04:48 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Izzy Dunne

It's a painful procedure for any male over 30, as everyone knows.


4 posted on 11/24/2004 8:06:06 AM PST by TheBigB (<----still tired and red-eyed from this weekend's BAYWATCH marathon on TV Land.)
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To: JesseHousman

Ooops. Too early to blame it on martinis.


5 posted on 11/24/2004 8:06:10 AM PST by JesseHousman
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To: JesseHousman
SECURITY RULES ANNOOYO

Annooyo sounds like a place I would like to visit. At least the streetcars run on time there.

6 posted on 11/24/2004 8:06:28 AM PST by asgardshill (November 2004 - The Month That Just Kept On Giving)
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To: JesseHousman
ANNOOYO

That's Latin for "Happy New Year," right?

7 posted on 11/24/2004 8:06:59 AM PST by JennysCool
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To: JesseHousman
People need to get over themselves.. I'm getting really tired of the hyper-sensitivity..

Maybe they should read
8 posted on 11/24/2004 8:07:12 AM PST by jasoncann
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To: JesseHousman

as always, the left's easy accusations of authority and easy solutions.

no doubt they'd prefer less searches and have the plane blown up.

then they could bitch about the lax security of the bush administration.


9 posted on 11/24/2004 8:07:23 AM PST by ken21 (against the democrat plantation.)
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To: JesseHousman
People need to get over themselves.. I'm getting really tired of the hyper-sensitivity..

Maybe they should read
10 posted on 11/24/2004 8:07:37 AM PST by jasoncann
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To: TheBigB

I just asked our Moderator to fix that.


11 posted on 11/24/2004 8:07:51 AM PST by JesseHousman
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To: JesseHousman

I hope he says no. LOL


12 posted on 11/24/2004 8:09:23 AM PST by TheBigB (<----still tired and red-eyed from this weekend's BAYWATCH marathon on TV Land.)
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To: JesseHousman
The typical TSA fondler is at best very dumb.

I heard a similar remark from a UK security type when I asked about not having to remove the laptop from its bag for the x-ray scan there.

13 posted on 11/24/2004 8:10:08 AM PST by sionnsar (NYT/Cbs: "It's fake but true!" | Iran Azadi | † Traditional Anglicans: trad-anglican.faithweb.com)
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To: JesseHousman
SECURITY RULES ANNOOYO, HUMILIATE PASSENGERS

Just to preserve it for the record. *\;-)

14 posted on 11/24/2004 8:11:03 AM PST by sionnsar (NYT/Cbs: "It's fake but true!" | Iran Azadi | † Traditional Anglicans: trad-anglican.faithweb.com)
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To: TheBigB

But it makes me look dumber than I actually am.


15 posted on 11/24/2004 8:12:05 AM PST by JesseHousman
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To: JesseHousman

I understand. It must really be annooyoing.


16 posted on 11/24/2004 8:13:07 AM PST by SlowBoat407 ( Just drive away and remove the piece of paper that is stuck to window later.)
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To: JesseHousman

Most of my posts do that to me. Accept the inevitable. :-)


17 posted on 11/24/2004 8:13:15 AM PST by TheBigB (<----still tired and red-eyed from this weekend's BAYWATCH marathon on TV Land.)
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To: SlowBoat407

I knew a fellow once whose name was Ardoyno.


18 posted on 11/24/2004 8:13:41 AM PST by JesseHousman
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To: sionnsar

I was trying to figure this one out. I flew to London with my husband this weekend. On the way there, I had to take my laptop out of the case. Waiting in the security line at Heathrow, I start to remove the laptop again when my husband (who travels to the UK often for business) tells me "You don't need to take it out here." What's up with that? Laptops are seen as threatening leaving the US, but not going to the US?


19 posted on 11/24/2004 8:15:41 AM PST by laurav
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To: Constitution Day; martin_fierro; Tijeras_Slim; TomServo; Owl_Eagle; HenryLeeII

A ping, just to annooyo all of you! ;-)


20 posted on 11/24/2004 8:16:14 AM PST by TheBigB (<----still tired and red-eyed from this weekend's BAYWATCH marathon on TV Land.)
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To: JesseHousman

An instant FR classic: ANOOOOOOOOOOYO!


21 posted on 11/24/2004 8:19:13 AM PST by Rutles4Ever ("...upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.")
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To: TheBigB

I'm not anoooyoed. I'm just a little irtiritateed.


22 posted on 11/24/2004 8:21:21 AM PST by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: Rutles4Ever

"ANNOOOOOYO!"
23 posted on 11/24/2004 8:22:31 AM PST by TheBigB (<----still tired and red-eyed from this weekend's BAYWATCH marathon on TV Land.)
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To: TheBigB

I'm annoyed.


24 posted on 11/24/2004 8:23:23 AM PST by JesseHousman
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To: JesseHousman

Aw, we're just playin' witcha. It happens every time someone misspells a word. :) (see: "Beeber, stuned")


25 posted on 11/24/2004 8:24:58 AM PST by TheBigB (<----still tired and red-eyed from this weekend's BAYWATCH marathon on TV Land.)
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To: Admin Moderator

Please, please change that headline.


26 posted on 11/24/2004 8:25:19 AM PST by JesseHousman
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To: TheBigB

Ha! I know. Just kidding.


27 posted on 11/24/2004 8:26:12 AM PST by JesseHousman
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To: JesseHousman

The mod will get with you as soon as he answers his beeber.


28 posted on 11/24/2004 8:28:58 AM PST by AxelPaulsenJr (Pray Daily For Our Troops and President Bush)
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To: JesseHousman

One TV News program showed, last night, a 70 year old grandmonther who was carring a 22 derringer in a hollowed out BOOK!! This is what causes screeners to get weird.


29 posted on 11/24/2004 8:29:21 AM PST by q_an_a
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To: JesseHousman

Gesundheit!


30 posted on 11/24/2004 8:30:46 AM PST by petitfour
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To: q_an_a
I read that. I believed that the story was a similar miscue as was the Texas coach who had a gun in his briefcase.

Actually I'm for arming all passengers. That way we get a chance to defend ourselves from crazed islamists.

31 posted on 11/24/2004 8:36:46 AM PST by JesseHousman
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To: q_an_a

What's weird about packing heat. I'll bet she carries it for self-defense.


32 posted on 11/24/2004 8:37:28 AM PST by ampat
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To: JesseHousman
We need to profile passengers and, in cases where the passenger is a possible terrorist, subject the passenger to extensive interview as the Israeli security forces do.

Israeli Security does not limit the "extensive interview" to possible terrorists. Everyone is subject to the interview, which is why passengers often arrive for flights to, from, and within Israel three to four hours in advance. The Amercian public would never tolerate that. Nor would they tolerate the invasive questions that Israeli security routinly asks. I can see the headline now: "TSA Questions Humilate Air Travelers"

BTW, how are you going to profile blonde haired blue eyed women who decide to take up a violent cause?

33 posted on 11/24/2004 8:44:50 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: Labyrinthos

I don't think blonde, blue-eyed passengers are not carrying explosives in their bras.


34 posted on 11/24/2004 8:49:27 AM PST by JesseHousman
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To: JesseHousman

Many of these Russian/Chechnian terroerist are blonde haired blue eyed fems.


35 posted on 11/24/2004 8:52:39 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: Labyrinthos
Everyone is subject to the interview, which is why passengers often arrive for flights to, from, and within Israel three to four hours in advance.

That's what the TSA, and airlines, advise you to do now.
In the USA you just don't get the interview. You just sit around outside the security area for 3 hours because, of course, there are no amenities inside the security areas at Kansas City international, not even bathrooms.

36 posted on 11/24/2004 8:53:12 AM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Just another Joe

I have flown 12 times since 01.01.04. I arrive one hour in advance and with one exception, I've passed through security in five minutes or less. Not a big deal.


37 posted on 11/24/2004 9:00:08 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: Labyrinthos
I agree, you can do that with no problem.
But that's NOT what the TSA and the airlines advise.

And, just to warn you, if you ever fly out of Vegas, come at least 2 hours early. It takes that long just to get to the security checkpoint.

38 posted on 11/24/2004 9:03:54 AM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Labyrinthos

A blonde woman was speeding down the road in her little red sports car and was pulled over by a woman police officer that was also a blonde. The cop asked to see the blonde's driver's license. She dug through her purse and was getting progressively more agitated.

"What does it look like?" she finally asked. The policewoman replied, "It's square and it has your picture on it." The driver finally found a square mirror, looked at it and handed it to the policewoman. "Here it is," she said. The blonde officer looked at the mirror, then handed it back saying, "Okay, you can go. I didn't realize you were a cop.


39 posted on 11/24/2004 9:17:40 AM PST by JesseHousman
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To: laurav
I was trying to figure this one out. I flew to London with my husband this weekend. On the way there, I had to take my laptop out of the case. Waiting in the security line at Heathrow, I start to remove the laptop again when my husband (who travels to the UK often for business) tells me "You don't need to take it out here." What's up with that? Laptops are seen as threatening leaving the US, but not going to the US?

As the fellow in the UK told me, "We're much smarter than your people over there..."

40 posted on 11/24/2004 10:21:50 AM PST by sionnsar (NYT/Cbs: "It's fake but true!" | Iran Azadi | † Traditional Anglicans: trad-anglican.faithweb.com)
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To: JesseHousman

LOLOL


41 posted on 11/24/2004 10:22:48 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: JesseHousman

LOLOL


42 posted on 11/24/2004 10:22:52 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: Admin Moderator

Am I being punished?


43 posted on 11/24/2004 11:25:57 AM PST by JesseHousman
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To: TheBigB; Constitution Day; martin_fierro; Tijeras_Slim; TomServo; Owl_Eagle

Heck, there are weekends when I head over to the airport and buy a ticket just so I can get felt up in the security line! I've had an application in with TSA for several months now, so hopefully I'll get an interview sometime soon!


44 posted on 11/24/2004 4:39:28 PM PST by HenryLeeII ("How do you ask a goose to be the last goose to die for a shameless political stunt?" -Tony in Ohio)
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