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Compulsory voting means ignoring Election Day is not an option
Seattle Post Intelligencer ^ | Wednesday, November 24, 2004 | GREG BARNS

Posted on 11/24/2004 11:44:16 AM PST by freeparella

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To: freeparella

While our voter turn out is pathetic compulsory voting is not the answer. What you'll get is the people that currently don't vote will either pick their cadidates randomly, or will still find ways to not vote (turn in a blank ballot, double vote everything, whatever). You're not going to change the percentage of voters that are actually engaged and bother to learn about the candidates or the issues.


41 posted on 11/24/2004 12:06:27 PM PST by discostu (mime is money)
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To: freeparella

How does it save money? If Madonna and Puffy Colmes (or whatever) want to waste their money encouraging people to vote, where's the loss?


42 posted on 11/24/2004 12:06:31 PM PST by Austin Willard Wright
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To: NJ_gent

Well, what's so bad about being lazy and apathetic if the alternative is voting for some idiot!


43 posted on 11/24/2004 12:07:46 PM PST by Austin Willard Wright
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To: Graybeard58
I'm also in favor of IQ tests for qualification

Anyone in favor of that couldn't pass.

44 posted on 11/24/2004 12:08:31 PM PST by Protagoras (Asking God to bless gay "marriage" is like asking God to bless theft.)
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To: freeparella

We may not have every eligible voter voting, but we do have voters that vote more than once.


45 posted on 11/24/2004 12:08:45 PM PST by malia
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To: freeparella

Voter turnout in the United States is not "pathetic," it was at an all-time high for the last presidential election. I don't want an idiot forced into the ballot box at penalty of law flipping a coin and negating my vote, thanks. That isn't freedom, it's silliness.


46 posted on 11/24/2004 12:09:36 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: freeparella

So, if you had to choose between Hitler and Himmler, who would you vote for?


47 posted on 11/24/2004 12:11:07 PM PST by Protagoras (Asking God to bless gay "marriage" is like asking God to bless theft.)
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To: freeparella
"I know a lot of my peers are apathetic because they feel their votes don't matter."

That's because a lot of your peers enjoy believing themselves to be helpless victims of "the system". They'll eventually grow up. In the mean time, if they don't vote, it's not "the system's" fault; it's their own. Anyone 18 years and older can vote. If I recall correctly, the statistics say something along the lines of 90% of people under 25 don't vote? Were that statistic reversed, they'd have a huge amount of influence over elections. That they do not have a huge amount of influence is purely the result of widescale apathy and laziness among the age group. Tell them to get off their butts on election day. Their vote doesn't count because they don't bother to cast it.
48 posted on 11/24/2004 12:11:14 PM PST by NJ_gent (Conservatism begins at home. Security begins at the border. Please, someone, secure our borders.)
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To: freeparella

Candidates in Australia don't need as much money to run because Australia is smaller. We cover 6 time zones in this country, reaching 280 million people spread across that distance isn't cheap whether they all have to vote or not. This article isa large collection of poor assumptions.


49 posted on 11/24/2004 12:12:31 PM PST by discostu (mime is money)
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To: hellinahandcart

How is compulsory voting taking away a freedom? Being able to exercise the vote is part of freedom! We have a lot of things that are compulsory in the country that have no impact on our freedoms. It's compulsory that you be 16 before you get a license to drive, it's compulsory that you pay bills, any number of things that do not take away freedom. If voting were compulsory apathy would no longer be an option. It would mean more democracy and more freedom.


50 posted on 11/24/2004 12:15:05 PM PST by freeparella (I will always thank the Lord; I will never stop praising Him.)
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To: FreeKeys
But I don't want stupid people voting!!


A little less than half of Americans voted for Kerry, so um, TOO LATE.

51 posted on 11/24/2004 12:16:42 PM PST by freeparella (I will always thank the Lord; I will never stop praising Him.)
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To: BibChr

Only try that idea with Republicans in office.


52 posted on 11/24/2004 12:16:56 PM PST by July 4th (A vacant lot cancelled out my vote for Bush.)
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To: freeparella

People who aren't informed enough to make a choice, or aren't motivated enough to vote, should not vote! I don't want these people diluting the votes of other peoples. What good does it have us to force unmotivated, uninformed voters to the polls, it just adds noise to the result.

Plus it takes away the freedom not to vote! :)


53 posted on 11/24/2004 12:19:52 PM PST by Mount Athos
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To: Protagoras
Anyone in favor of that couldn't pass.

I am in the top two percentile. If we use me as a standard would you pass?

54 posted on 11/24/2004 12:19:55 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Ignoranus: A person who's both stupid and an a**hole)
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To: July 4th

...or just make it that the vote defaults to the Republican candidate!

(c;


55 posted on 11/24/2004 12:20:05 PM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: t_skoz
I hope you don't argue for removal of the Electoral College.


Oh, heck no. I believe in the wisdom of the founders. We have an Electoral College partly because they didn't want stupid people, i.e., the ignorant masses voting on their own.

56 posted on 11/24/2004 12:21:16 PM PST by freeparella (I will always thank the Lord; I will never stop praising Him.)
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To: Protagoras
So, if you had to choose between Hitler and Himmler, who would you vote for?


The gas chamber.

57 posted on 11/24/2004 12:22:57 PM PST by freeparella (I will always thank the Lord; I will never stop praising Him.)
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To: freeparella
but as a younger person I know a lot of my peers are apathetic because they feel their votes don't matter.

I have no patience with the stupid. Why should we change our laws and infringe on everyone's liberties in order to pander to the "feelings" of the stupid?

It seems under the compulsory system candidates pay more attention to everyone,

Fantasy. Our candidates pay too much attention TO "everyone" now, instead of talking about what they actually intend to DO to everyone after they get in.

and I feel if more people felt their needs were being addressed they would become more involved in the political process.

The only "need" of the people that is constitutionally appropriate for the federal government to address is security. Hell, my "needs" as a conservative haven't been addressed to my satisfaction, but I have never missed an election.

And yes, that does make me a better citizen and a better person than someone who sits home on election day nursing those vague "feelings" of futility and disenfranchisement that eventually become self-actualizing.

58 posted on 11/24/2004 12:24:29 PM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: Graybeard58
I am in the top two percentile.

Fourth or fifth grade?

If we use me as a standard would you pass?

If we used you as the standard, the whole world would be geniuses.

59 posted on 11/24/2004 12:24:37 PM PST by Protagoras (Asking God to bless gay "marriage" is like asking God to bless theft.)
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To: freeparella
The gas chamber.

I rest my case.

60 posted on 11/24/2004 12:25:21 PM PST by Protagoras (Asking God to bless gay "marriage" is like asking God to bless theft.)
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