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(Vanity) Why are so many liberal women "mean girls"?
11/24/04 | Yankeedame

Posted on 11/24/2004 4:40:17 PM PST by yankeedame

Have just finished reading the numerous replies -- some of them truly heart breaking -- of this evening's post "Lost an Old Friend Today. Politics and the Personal"; and I find that far and away most of these intense,friendship-breaking liberals mentioned in these posts are women. (Obviously, not all.)

Add to this that in many news stories it seems to be chiefly women who protest this or that by climbing trees or running around with their blouses off; or that when it come to really off-the-wall legal ruling(s), college admin. decisions, local government declarations, etc. odds are pretty darn good that,well, cherchez le femme (Once again, obviously not all.)

So that got me wondering why are so many "everyday" (non-MSM types) female liberals so intense/noisy/nasty/passionate/insistent/mean spirited? The MSM types I can understand. After all, bad manners make good publicity, and good publicity sells more books, gets one more TV appearances, more time on the lecture circuit, etc.

But I'm talking about everyday liberal women who have nothing to gain, and so very much to lose.... Why do they do what they do and act the way they act?*

I'd sure like to here some opinions on that.

*(And IMHO not that many of them seem to mellow with age.)


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1 posted on 11/24/2004 4:40:17 PM PST by yankeedame
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To: yankeedame

Where are they running around with their blouses off?

Could get a good roll-up if we decide to freep them.


2 posted on 11/24/2004 4:42:16 PM PST by Aussie Dasher (Stop Hillary - PEGGY NOONAN '08)
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To: yankeedame
Because "payback" as they say "is a bitch."
3 posted on 11/24/2004 4:42:44 PM PST by pipecorp (this space no longer exists)
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To: yankeedame

They want the attention.


4 posted on 11/24/2004 4:42:59 PM PST by jimthewiz (California conservative in a bright red county)
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To: yankeedame

In a related question, why are the women who are most vocal about women being treated as sex-objects the least in danger of such treatment?


5 posted on 11/24/2004 4:44:38 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: yankeedame
Perhaps for the same reason that so many liberal men are "sissy boys."

Worth looking into.

6 posted on 11/24/2004 4:44:48 PM PST by SamAdams76 (Red Sox Win The World Series...And Bush Wins Re-election Too!)
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To: yankeedame

Far too many of them just can't get a date with a real man. Their careers aren't going as well as they hoped, and lesbian experimentation is getting boring. Life has passed them by, and they just can't stand it.


7 posted on 11/24/2004 4:46:31 PM PST by Bryan
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To: yankeedame
IMO, women are crazy, liberal women are REAL crazy.
9 posted on 11/24/2004 4:46:41 PM PST by Benrand
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To: yankeedame

I think that liberal women are more psychotic than conservative women. Liberalism is a mental illness.


10 posted on 11/24/2004 4:46:45 PM PST by MisterRepublican ("I must go. I must be elusive.")
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To: yankeedame

Savage is correct on this. It's a mental disease, perhaps compounded by hormonal imbalance.


11 posted on 11/24/2004 4:46:45 PM PST by Freebird Forever
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To: yankeedame
Nothing new.

"The man is on the Court. You know, I hope his wife feeds him lots of eggs and butter and he dies early like many black men do, of heart disease. Well, that’s how I feel. He is an absolutely reprehensible person."

Juliann Malveaux, on Clarence Thomas

12 posted on 11/24/2004 4:47:23 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: yankeedame

I think a lot of people--male and female, but with an edge to the women--feel powerless toward certain power figures in their lives they cannot lash out against (bosses, spuses, parents), so they invest their attitudes toward power in politics.


13 posted on 11/24/2004 4:48:20 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Enough with the Blue/Red State stuff already, it's inaccurate, lazy thinking.)
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To: Freebird Forever

Savage is on to something. I liken liberalism with a sort of psychosis brought on by years of self loathing, guilt, and brainwashing through the popular culture.


14 posted on 11/24/2004 4:48:36 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: yankeedame

Remember, most women are neither left, right, or even political. However, the Leftist females I've known have been hideously amoral.


15 posted on 11/24/2004 4:48:41 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: Benrand

"IMO, women are crazy"

I resemble that remark.


16 posted on 11/24/2004 4:49:17 PM PST by Salamander (Vanity, vanity. All is vanity.....)
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To: yankeedame
Good manners and ladylike behavior are traditions in the oppressive and backwards male-dominated culture. The femnazis consider them to be submissive behaviors and thus reject them.

(A femnazi told me this back in college.)

17 posted on 11/24/2004 4:49:44 PM PST by Lil'freeper (Error 404. The page you requested was not found.)
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To: yankeedame

They've been trained to do so from a very young age by our public education system.


18 posted on 11/24/2004 4:50:18 PM PST by thoughtomator (The Era of Old Media is over! Long live the Pajamasphere!)
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To: yankeedame
Why are so many liberal women "mean girls?"

Because there aren't any Red State men around to tame them.

19 posted on 11/24/2004 4:50:20 PM PST by Uncle Vlad
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To: Bryan
Life has passed them by, and they just can't stand it.

In short, they are pretty much angry with themselves. When they cannot accept the idea that they are their biggest problem, they lash out.

Conservetive women on the other hand are comfortable with themselves and don't have to go around making excuses for thier failings. They face them like adults and GROW UP.

20 posted on 11/24/2004 4:51:21 PM PST by Only1choice____Freedom ("Do not pray for tasks equal to your powers; pray for powers equal to your tasks,"-President Bush)
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To: SpaceBar

hehehe...


21 posted on 11/24/2004 4:51:46 PM PST by dakine
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To: yankeedame
Liberalism is about moral superiority. They pursue the 'enlightened path.' Therefore, they are justified in castigating the non-believer.
22 posted on 11/24/2004 4:51:51 PM PST by atomicpossum (I am the Cat that walks by himself, and all places are alike to me.)
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To: yankeedame

Why? Because they have been taking in the radical feminist agenda for years - and that only leads to bitterness because it is filled with lies and false assumptions.


23 posted on 11/24/2004 4:52:10 PM PST by DennisR (Look around - there are countless unmistakable hints that God exists)
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To: yankeedame

I'm in Seattle and the Democratic runner for Governor - Christine Gregoire was on talking about the recount (Republican Dino Rossi won the recount by 42 votes!).

She would smile and nod her head at the question so sweet. Then would scowl and loudly say how EVERY vote must count. When asked if the count was only going to be done King County (60+ percent democrat) she would loudly say how they are looking at all options. And every vote needs to be counted. Like some how the evil Republicans are stealing ballots, etc.


24 posted on 11/24/2004 4:52:27 PM PST by geopyg (Peace..................through decisive and ultimate VICTORY. (Democracy, whiskey, sexy))
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To: yankeedame

Women tend to worry more than men.
Liberals worry about everything, nothing is ever right.
Therefore liberal women are a mess.

W + L = M

A mathmetical surety.


25 posted on 11/24/2004 4:53:40 PM PST by Ramcat (Thank You American Veterans)
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To: yankeedame
Um.. maybe because the only "sex" they've ever had involved the mental gymnastics required to justify untenable positions, and the sudden realization of being unmercifully brainwashed by sadistic educrats - and coming to grips with real gut-level anger being unpalatable in their belief system.....
26 posted on 11/24/2004 4:54:40 PM PST by xcamel (W2: Four more years of Tax Cuts and Dead Terrorists)
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To: anniegetyourgun

Remember, most women are neither left, right, or even political. However, the Leftist females I've known have been hideously amoral.



Funny, my friend is one of the most amoral human beings I have ever met, except when it comes to her politics. Then she is shrill, entitled and demanding.


27 posted on 11/24/2004 4:54:42 PM PST by mlmr (Rubbing it in Leftist faces since 1994)
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To: Benrand

"IMO, women are crazy, liberal women are REAL crazy."

I think you've hit on something there mate. LOL


28 posted on 11/24/2004 4:55:11 PM PST by EEDUDE (Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.)
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To: yankeedame

The Liberal Psychology is like this.

Father and or Mother issues....(Authority Issues) usually equate to a political or spiritual level...(Angry at God)
God didn't do what I thought He should so I will pretend He doesn't exist...or I will change His existence to fit my world view.

In short....Liberals are blatently DISHONEST....in denial!


29 posted on 11/24/2004 4:55:14 PM PST by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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To: yankeedame

Why are so many "liberal" girls, mean?


30 posted on 11/24/2004 4:55:20 PM PST by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: Benrand

Only because men MAKE us that way! Lol!


31 posted on 11/24/2004 4:55:55 PM PST by derllak
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To: yankeedame

Part of the problem is that liberalism is now more of a club than a political philosophy. Libs view themselves as the "cool kids." Therefore, if you are a conservative, you can be attacked, mocked, humiliated or shunned without any guilt.

It is much like the Muslim idea of dhimmitude applied to high school cliques.


32 posted on 11/24/2004 4:56:51 PM PST by MediaMole
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To: yankeedame
So that got me wondering why are so many "everyday" (non-MSM types) female liberals so intense/noisy/nasty/passionate/insistent/mean spirited?

I asked my husband this many times during the lead up to the last election. It seemed like every woman representing the democrats side during the various newstainment shows were shrieking banshees. I couldn't pay attention to any argument they had for their position because I was usually so disconcerted by their yelling and rude behavior.

I don't know much about Jackie Kennedy but I heard once that the reason she spoke so softly was so that the listener would have to lean in and really pay attention to what she was saying. I don't have any idea if that's true or not but I wish they would teach other women in the democratic party that technique since proper manners and civility seem to be to difficult for them to grasp.

33 posted on 11/24/2004 4:57:03 PM PST by JanetteS (My Heroes Have Always Been Cowboys!)
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To: yankeedame
Being a male stoat, I may not be able to provide the perspective that you seek. I can, however, convey some notions that may, at least tangentially, relate to your question.

My experience suggests to me that for many people, men and women alike, politics has come to substitute faith in their lives. Liberalism, being emotionally and not rationally-based, appeals to those who are confused and are looking for a belief system that can be endlessly argued and justified, without the bother of dealing with factual evidence.

For men, this can address their spiritual needs to some extent, but for women the attraction is multilayered in that in addition to a thin veneer of spiritual comfort it provides a justification for militant feminism and a host of other Leftist "women's issues". For women, it can not only supplant a true spiritual life but a home life as well. Women who have failed in dating, life and love find comfort in an ideology that tells them that it's all the man's fault.

I have lost all friends of my youth as I came to study history more and more and discovered how utterly bankrupt the modern liberal (Socialist) ideology is. None cited a reason for their disaffection to me; they just stopped returning my calls and letters. I suppose communicating becomes difficult when you have nothing of substance to say, and it's so very much easier when you can surround yourself with those who engage in mindless chatter pertaining to feelings rather than substance.
34 posted on 11/24/2004 4:57:51 PM PST by Stoat
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I used to hold to a few liberal ideas in my college days but smartened up over a 22+ marriage and the same in the working world.

There is a certain subset of women who believe that their emotions are equivalent to facts. These women, liberal or conservative, make life heck for all they encounter. Essentially, they are divas.

Because they are relatively selfless in their personal lives, they are catered to by their family and friends. The high maintenance bill comes due so much later that people are duped.

Women really ARE much more vicious on emotional level than most men. These divas just use it to manipulate others politically (more or less).

I have a friend of 15 years who has not called me since July because of politics. We never have political discussions because we are polar opposites so she never had a reason to cut me off. She is simply incensed that I am a Libertarian with conserative values. I expect she will call shortly when she needs a shoulder to cry on about her chaotic personal life.
35 posted on 11/24/2004 4:57:53 PM PST by Gingersnap
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To: yankeedame

Maybe it's because so many of them are BULL DYKES and the liberal men are girlie-men.


36 posted on 11/24/2004 4:58:29 PM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: yankeedame
So that got me wondering why are so many "everyday" (non-MSM types) female liberals so intense/noisy/nasty/passionate/insistent/mean spirited? The MSM types I can understand.

They hate themselves for not daring to be Outed Lesbians. They hate men, and of course the feelings are returned. They hate happy women, and the feelings are returned. They hate their lives; The ones that are married know they are living a script written by someone else, and the script has no plot, and soon, they will be forty+.

Then, there is nothing left for them but to drive a Volvo covered with "Godess" stickers, Stickers that proclaim "Women need Men Like a Fish Needs a Bicycle", "When God Made Man, She Was Joking".

Thye go home, mumbing to themselves, to their 200 cats.

They die alone.

37 posted on 11/24/2004 4:59:28 PM PST by Gorzaloon (This tagline intentionally left blank.)
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To: yankeedame
Because all their role models since childhood have told them that they need to get in touch with their inner bitch if they want to get anywhere in life; that it's fun, interesting, and exciting to be a acid-tongued harpy; and by the time they learn that this technique only works for a very small minority of women who don't mind living alone, have no real friends, and for the most part only exist in movies or on TV, it's too late for them to learn self-control -- which in turn makes them only more lonely, bitter, and unpleasant.

Just a theory.

38 posted on 11/24/2004 4:59:35 PM PST by Flatus I. Maximus
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39 posted on 11/24/2004 5:02:08 PM PST by Flatus I. Maximus
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To: Allan

For your amusement:-)


40 posted on 11/24/2004 5:02:57 PM PST by ARridgerunner
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To: yankeedame
Feminist pigs can kiss my

in the


41 posted on 11/24/2004 5:03:18 PM PST by Righter-than-Rush
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To: yankeedame
Most of them are ugly as well. I got into a political argument with lib at a party this weekend when she said that conservatives are narrow minded... I in turn told her that libs were ugly as fence posts and on Prozac...
42 posted on 11/24/2004 5:03:38 PM PST by todd1
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To: yankeedame
You can't identify all liberal women by the same methods, but in the extreme cases, you can say certain things about them. They hate themselves for being women. They've bought into the liberal notion that being a woman makes you merely a sexual object. They believe that motherhood is demeaning and makes them second-class to men. So they hate anyone who perceives them as women first, instead of some other identity they have chosen for themselves (feminist, liberal, etc). Many of these women also do things to their appearance to make themselves less attractive to men. Some go so far as to reject their sexuality and choose lesbian lifestyles.
43 posted on 11/24/2004 5:04:38 PM PST by Kirkwood
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To: Halgr; All

Many good ideas on this thread, but there are some common themes. First it is generally accepted that for the most part women tend towards the emotional whilst men tend towards the analytical. Liberalism has many "feminine" attributes in this sense. You should feel guilty driving down the highway listening to music because some onion farmer in Bangladesh had his entire hovel washed away in the monsoon. Liberals do think they are morally superior. I've spoken to many of them and that is a common trait. The clippedhaired dyke types who are at the vocal forefront of radical sixties burnout socialist activist groups are trapped in a nightmarish world of being plumbed an "innie" with the chemical makeup of an "outie". That makes 'em mean.


44 posted on 11/24/2004 5:04:40 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: Only1choice____Freedom
In short, they are pretty much angry with themselves. When they cannot accept the idea that they are their biggest problem, they lash out.

Conservetive women on the other hand are comfortable with themselves and don't have to go around making excuses for thier failings. They face them like adults and GROW UP.




I think you're on to something here...

Liberals IN GENERAL feel that if something is WRONG, its SOMEBODY ELSE'S fault. That's why they spend so much time complaining and protesting.

You will never hear a liberal say "I got fired because I didn't do a very good job..."

Its always "I lost my job because the economy is bad because a republican is in the white house, or my boss was intimidated by my skills."
46 posted on 11/24/2004 5:05:15 PM PST by The Hollywood Conservative (I can't even make a tagline because I'm a GIANT IDIOT!!!)
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To: yankeedame

They're mean because they don't like the slim pickings in men they get. Liberal women are good for a roll in the sack but not much else.


48 posted on 11/24/2004 5:05:38 PM PST by cyborg
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To: yankeedame

"why are so many "everyday" (non-MSM types) female liberals so intense/noisy/nasty/passionate/insistent/mean spirited?"

I seriously believe the answer lies in who becomes liberal to begin with. My judgment is that liberalism exists to provide a platform of righteous indignation which justifies an otherwise indefensible level of resentment anger and hate.

In my experience watching these people for forty years, I am convinced that they are bitter, hateful people, for any of a myriad of personal historic reasons, who cannot simply face their own demons.

They have to externalize the enemy within; liberalism creates, and identifies, a set of demonized enemies against whom they can direct their corrosive aggression.

In other words, liberals are not nasty and angry because they are liberal; they are, rather, liberal because under the skin they are nasty and hateful people.

I have never met or interacted with an individual who did not fit this hypothesis, given enough information to make a determination.


50 posted on 11/24/2004 5:08:13 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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