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Rewriting the French Revolution
NewsMax ^ | 11/25/04 | Miguel A. Faria Jr., M.D.

Posted on 11/25/2004 7:05:48 PM PST by wagglebee

A book review of Leigh Ann Whaley’s “Radicals: Politics and Republicanism in the French Revolution” (2000, Sutton Publishing, 212 pp., ISBN: 07509-22389)

Contrasting Revolutions

Even though politicians and some historians in both America and Europe have likened the French and American Revolutions, these two landmark events of world history were as dissimilar as the men who forged them.

The American Revolution (1775-1783) was a war for independence from England, a war for self-governance, as well as a thunderous political event that led to the affirmation of the Natural Rights of men – namely, life, liberty, property and the pursuit of happiness. The American Civil War (1861-1865) freed the black slaves and extended civil rights that had been denied them since their arrival in chains to the New World.

Ordered liberty and self-determination enshrined in the American constitutional republic would endure and guide these United States of America through the turbulence of the last 200 years into the 21st century.

On the other side of the coin, the epochal episodes of the French Revolution, the storming of the Bastille (July 14, 1789), the fall of the monarchy (August 10, 1792), etc., were merely preludes to mob violence, the September Massacres (1792), the Reign of Terror – and ultimately, the dictatorship of the Committee of Public Safety and Maximilien Robespierre (July 1791-9 Thermidor, 1794).

Then came the Thermidorean Reaction, the Directory, the Consulate, and finally the Empire under the enlightened despotism of Napoleon Bonaparte (1799-1815). Mid- to late-19th-century French history continues the cycle of violence (although not of the same intensity as that of the Terror), insurrections, coups d’etat, revolutions and counterrevolutions, the rise and fall of "Republics" and "Empires," few victories – and many military defeats that would haunt France into the 20th century.

Rewriting History

In her book “Radicals: Politics and Republicanism in the French Revolution,” Leigh Ann Whaley, professor of European History at Acadia University, Nova Scotia, attempts to rewrite the history of the conflict between the radical Jacobins, the Montagnards, and the moderate republicans (i.e., the "right wing" of the National Convention), the Girondins or "Brissotins" (after one of their leaders, the journalist Pierre Brissot).

Whaley argues that the difference between these two groups was personal or tactical rather than ideological, and that this difference "was not discernible until at least December 1792." She "rewrites the history of factionalism" as to assert that the division of the Girondins and Montagnards had more to do with personal rivalries, unfulfilled ambitions and animosities than with ideology or political objectives.

Whaley believes that it was their seeking of political support in the political struggle that led to their contrary positions, positions that evolved and "were not there from the beginning."

Moreover, the author, contrary to all the available historical evidence (not to mention common sense!), asserts that "the uprising of 2 June [1793, when the Girondin Deputies were purged from the Convention] was not the decisive event in the downfall of the 'Brissotins' and the reason for their subsequent execution in the autumn of 1793."

And then she takes the final academic plunge into the realm of the implausible. Supported with flimsy and contrary evidence, and even less convincing argumentation, she continues: "Rather, it was a combination of the illegal [my emphasis] activities carried out by a majority of those expelled ... and other events, including the murder of Marat, which determined their sorry fate."

Thus, Whaley incredibly writes of "illegality" in reference to the National Convention, a governing body that had, in fact, already rescinded whatever claims it had to legitimate governance when it approved (albeit reluctantly and under pressure) the purging of the 21 Girondin Deputies.

The Convention had cowardly caved in to the Parisian mobs and expelled the Girondin opposition, whose heads had been repeatedly demanded by the dregs of the sans-culottes, the insurrectionary Commune, and the radical Sections of Paris.

As for the assassination of Marat on July 13, 1793, Whaley buys into the propaganda of the radical Jacobins themselves, Fabre d’Eglantine, Georges Couthon, the corrupt ex-priest Chabot, and Robespierre, who used the episode as the needed, final excuse to exterminate the Girondins and their friends.

Charlotte Chorday, a genuine republican heroine, is dismissed as nothing more than a tool of the Brissotins, part of a conspiracy, when at her own trial the available evidence pointed to the fact that, even though she had met the Girondin Deputies Francois Buzot and Charles Barbaroux at Caen, she acted of her own accord, hoping that by assassinating the bloodthirsty Jean Paul Marat, she would save the Republic from the dictatorship of the Montagnards.

Significant Omissions

In the Preface, Prof. Whaley curiously recommends her book to "historians of Europe" and other scholars, even "anyone seeking to understand the nature of revolutionary behavior," but apparently not to Canadian or American historians. Why this oversight?

One wonders if she fears critical evaluation of her book from the American perspective, her Canadian colleagues, or traditional scholars, who may not share her barely suppressed enthusiasm for the men who ultimately presided over French radicalism and the bloody Reign of Terror.

Conveniently, the tyrannical and bloodthirsty careers of Robespierre, Saint-Just, Couthon, Collot d’Herbois, Billaud-Varenne, etc., of the Committee of Public Safety at the height of the Great Terror were not subject to this study. Unexpectedly, the book lowers the curtain on this dramatic performance with the execution of the "illegal" Girondins.

Yet the thesis of this book, truncated as it is, at such a critical time in the midst of the French Revolution and with such an abrupt ending, is recommended to "a multi-disciplinary audience, including students of politics, military studies and French studies." What conclusion could these students possibly draw after such a significant omission?

A Revolution Gone Too Far

Another objection to this little tome is that all of "the Radicals" are painted with the same broad brush: They are essentially ideological Jacobins who split with each other over tactics, only to subsequently coalesce into two opposing groups.

The basis for the political realignment is, we are asked to believe, due to nothing more than petty jealousies, personal rivalries, and political necessity – not ideology, or, most importantly, the realization by the moderate Girondins that the Revolution had gone too far, that the National Convention had lost legitimacy, that coercion from the Parisian mobs and the recurring and continuous threat of political violence made the task of governance virtually impossible.

This unrelenting intimidation and threat of violence, it should be pointed out, was directed almost exclusively against the "right wing" of the Convention, the moderate Girondins, who represented and were the voice of the provinces, vis-a-vis Paris and the centralization of power. Thus, a few radicals and Parisian mobs were to rule by sheer terror over a larger, more moderate country.

With good reason the Girondins feared a dictatorship of Paris over the provinces, directed by the radical Jacobins under Marat, Danton and Robespierre. History proved them correct even though the presaged brutal dictatorship lasted less than two years.

I write "painted with the same broad brush," and yet, if anything, the bloodthirsty Marat, the despotic Robespierre, and the extremists, Saint-Just, Billaud-Varenne and Collot d’Herbois are treated with undeserved deference, bordering on admiration, as if they were French statesmen of the first order rather than the sanguinary terrorists they really became as the Revolution unfolded.

Take for instance Collot d’Herbois, radical Jacobin and member of the Committee of Public Safety, who held that for prosperity to be achieved under the revolutionary government it was necessary to sacrifice 12 to 15 million Frenchmen.

And this was not just a nightmarish idea of a mad radical; Robespierre approved of the same planned depopulation of France. He agreed with Collot that 12 to 15 million citizens needed to be exterminated before his genocidal dream of happiness in the Republic of Virtue could be consummated.

Undeserved and obsequious deference to these unsavory characters only betrays the author’s thinly veiled sympathy for these ultra-radical figures, questioning the same objectivity she seeks to attain as a historian.

Blatant Bias

Although there is no question that Prof. Whaley has done significant research, unearthing and studying original sources, she does not quote representative writings of these revolutionaries to the extent that their minds, through their own words, are opened to the critical analysis of the reader.

For example, Marat’s radical and frequently vulgar newspaper, L’Ami du Peuple, is never quoted even though it would have been quite illuminating to do so. Marat used these pages to harangue the Convention as well as to repeatedly ask for the blood of his enemies. Certainly, quoting his rabid writings would have set him apart from his vastly more reasonable enemies on the right.

Ditto for Rene Hebert, the cowardly and sanguinary journalist, Commune leader and radical Jacobin, who should have been specifically included in this study. Like his newspaper, Pere Duchesne, Hebert was mentioned but not quoted so as not to give us a sense of the fear the Girondins must have experienced after being denounced as "traitors" repeatedly by this editor, who again and again demanded that they face the cold blade of the guillotine!

Hebert used gruesome expressions when calling for the heads of his enemies. They should be taken to the scaffold "to sneeze into the sack" or "to look out of the Republican window." And yet Hebert was one of the few revolutionaries (or aristocrats) who cowardly broke down when his time came and had to be taken kicking and screaming "to look out of the [same] Republican window." Nevertheless, Hebert was only mentioned in passing, almost deferentially, as if he were only a detached witness to the revolution.

Prof. Whaley referred to the Girondin political opposition to radical Jacobin policies (supported by Marat and Hebert in their newspapers) in the National Convention as "intransigence." The author devotes a considerable number of pages to the propaganda machine of the "Brissotin" press. The enormous influence of Marat’s and Hebert’s newspapers in mobilizing the criminal elements and Parisian mobs to influence the proceedings and intimidate the Convention is barely mentioned.

On the other hand, the Girondins, except for Marquis de Condorcet and Jerome Petion, are treated very differently. They are discredited at every opportunity, tactfully but consistently. Pierre Brissot is accused of having been a police informer, which may have been true but irrelevant, particularly when no evidence was submitted.

Hanging such a dark cloud over the reputation of a leader would surely reflect poorly on the reputation and motives of the whole political faction. Brissot may have had a shady past, but certainly the period covered under this study demonstrated him to have grown politically and morally, his courage and determination adequately expiating for his past sins.

We cannot say the same for the ultra-radical Jacobins in the Committee of Public Safety and their allies in the Insurrectionary Commune and the Paris Sections. As previously stated, a significant omission precluded analysis of the careers of the most sanguinary Montagnards in the Committee of Public Safety because the Great Terror was excluded by Prof. Whaley from the period under study!

Thus, one is left with the feeling that this book is written in an attempt to establish moral equivalence among the radicals, painting them with the same broad brush to achieve this objective. The attempt fails because historical evidence points otherwise.

Instead what the available historical evidence leads to is the fact the Girondin faction, the "right wing" of the Convention, tried but failed to bring an end to the excesses of the Revolution, an anarchic revolution gone violent and bloody.

Indeed, there is significant evidence that the Girondin leaders, Jerome Petion, Pierre Brissot, Arnaud Gensonne, Charles Barbaroux and Pierre Vergniaud, whatever their initial political thoughts, came to the realization that the Revolution had gone too far. They then intended and tried to get the Revolution on track, establish a Republic with a lawful constitution, guided by the rule of law and Natural Rights, not unlike that of the United States, which they came to admire.

Moreover, they foresaw their own destruction, and yet they fought and died bravely to prevent the coming Terror. The history of France, and, as subsequent events proved, the history of the world, could have been changed for the betterment of humanity if these courageous Girondins had succeeded.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: americanrevolution; bookreview; europeanhistory; france; frenchrevolution; history; revisionism
The French Revolution was nothing more than a rudimentary form of communism and it's dismal failure still haunts France more than two centuries later.
1 posted on 11/25/2004 7:05:48 PM PST by wagglebee
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To: wagglebee

During the French Revolution, there was the Reign of Terror by Maximillian Robespierre. Many people were guillotined in a witchhunt. He too would get the guillotine.


2 posted on 11/25/2004 7:10:00 PM PST by Ptarmigan (Proud rabbit hater and killer)
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To: Ptarmigan

If you look closely, the French Revolution was a war on Christianity as much as anything. France has essentially been an anti-religious country for 200 years. As such, they have consistently lacked the moral clarity to make a stand against evil in the world, this is especially clear in their attitude toward Hitler and now toward Islamo-fascism.


3 posted on 11/25/2004 7:16:12 PM PST by wagglebee (Memo to sKerry: the only thing Bush F'ed up was your career)
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To: Ptarmigan

http://chemistry.mtu.edu/~pcharles/SCIHISTORY/Lavoisier.html

Heck, they even guillotined the founder of modern chemistry.
How offensive can a geeky chemist be?


Just about as hideous as the persecution and death of the plant geneticist Vavilov
under the Soviets.
(But the Soviets paid...with millions of them starved or under-nourished due to
listening to the "politically correct" Lysenko)


4 posted on 11/25/2004 7:19:39 PM PST by VOA
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To: wagglebee

It was nothing but a Colonial-era L.A. riots from 1992. Anyone who made a decent living was murdered.

It's exactly what certain people in this country will do if they ever get the chance.


5 posted on 11/25/2004 7:22:52 PM PST by SteveMcKing
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To: wagglebee
If you look closely, the French Revolution was a war on Christianity as
much as anything.


That surely got "short shrift" when I was taking World History in high school.
I was fairly shocked when I later read about the revolutionaries locking
priests and nuns into barges and then sinking the barges.

I think I've heard Michael Medved comment that the American Revolution was to
establish a system where EVERYONE (from top executive on down) was subject to
laws/rules imposed by Providence/G-d/Supreme Being.
And in contrast, the French Revolution was about erasing G-d from the public
commons.
6 posted on 11/25/2004 7:22:58 PM PST by VOA
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To: VOA

They viewed the Church as an extension of the monarchy, this was basically true of the top bishops, but they essentially eliminated religion from the French culture.


7 posted on 11/25/2004 7:26:03 PM PST by wagglebee (Memo to sKerry: the only thing Bush F'ed up was your career)
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To: SteveMcKing
It's exactly what certain people in this country will do if they ever get the chance.

It's basically what fatass Michael Moore suggests every time he opens his mouth; maybe not murdering the wealthy, but confiscating their money (except, of course, the like-minded wealthy leftists).

8 posted on 11/25/2004 7:27:51 PM PST by wagglebee (Memo to sKerry: the only thing Bush F'ed up was your career)
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To: wagglebee

They already do it through the government. I'd actually rather they break into my house and try to steal 1/3 of my posessions that way. At least I'd have a right to shoot them in the act, although that right is subject to restrictions imposed by the very same democrats.


9 posted on 11/25/2004 7:34:37 PM PST by SteveMcKing
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To: wagglebee
The French had problems the US didn't in our revolution.

1) Class Hatred. The smart, rich and attractive people were so hated that they couldn't lead anyone and generally ended up being guillotined.

2) Economic Desperation. Les Miserables is not entirely leftist propaganda. There was a pathetic socio-economic situation in Paris, Marseilles and other French cities.

The US colonies had their problems, but not as bad as France in the late 18th and early nineteenth centuries.
10 posted on 11/25/2004 7:34:38 PM PST by .cnI redruM (Idiots so love to bury a god. - Charles Buckowski)
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To: wagglebee
Also see:

Fire in the Minds of Men: Origins of the Revolutionary Faith

11 posted on 11/25/2004 7:41:12 PM PST by spycatcher
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To: wagglebee

About the only thing the french are any good at is rewriting their sordid history. They managed to cast themselves as our allies during WWII, even though the majority of them sympathized with the Nazis and did all they could to undermine the efforts of our GIs, up to and including taking up arms against them. How they managed to convince our leaders they were our "friends" is something I have never understood, given their proven record of treachery, double-dealing and collaboration with our enemies.


12 posted on 11/25/2004 7:42:19 PM PST by CFC__VRWC (It's not evidence of wrongdoing just because Democrats don't like the outcome.)
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To: CFC__VRWC

And most of the members of the French Resistance were not sympathetic to America and Britian, they simply preferred Stalin and communism to Hitler and national socialism.


13 posted on 11/25/2004 7:45:03 PM PST by wagglebee (Memo to sKerry: the only thing Bush F'ed up was your career)
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To: .cnI redruM

"The French had problems the US didn't in our revolution.

1) Class Hatred. The smart, rich and attractive people were so hated that they couldn't lead anyone and generally ended up being guillotined.

2) Economic Desperation. Les Miserables is not entirely leftist propaganda. There was a pathetic socio-economic situation in Paris, Marseilles and other French cities."

My reply follows.

1) Studies have determined that it was the smart, rich, and attractive people in the middle class who revolted. The inherited aristocracy and the Church neither of which had minimal qualifications other than blood lines, all the power, most property, and no taxes ended up being guillotined.

2) Les Miserables was written about the uprising in 1848 not the French Revolution initiated in1789.


14 posted on 11/25/2004 8:16:42 PM PST by Whispering Smith
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To: wagglebee; VOA

The French Revolutionaries stole the property of the church and crowned a prostitute on the altar of Notre Dame and worshipped her as the goddess of "reason."


15 posted on 11/25/2004 8:19:49 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: wagglebee
Now HERE was a Frenchman (The Hammer)


16 posted on 11/25/2004 8:27:08 PM PST by Pharmboy (Listen...you can still hear the old media sobbing.)
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To: .cnI redruM
Class Hatred. The smart, rich and attractive people were so hated that they couldn't lead anyone and generally ended up being guillotined.

The upper crust in France was an evil empire if ever there was one.

17 posted on 11/25/2004 8:28:55 PM PST by Podkayne (AA)
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To: wagglebee

The PCF (Communist Party) encouraged desertion and sabotage against the French war effort before the Battle of France. For a period of time, their newspaper was allowed to print under Nazi occupation.

They got into the resistance game only because of Barbarossa and dominated it. They truly were more beholden to Stalin and his Comintern/Cominform.


18 posted on 11/25/2004 8:30:22 PM PST by lavrenti (Think of who is pithy, yet so attractive to women.)
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To: wagglebee
" America and Europe have likened the French and American Revolutions"

NO WAY!

The Anatomy of Revolution by CRANE BRINTON "

19 posted on 11/25/2004 8:33:17 PM PST by BenLurkin (Big government is still a big problem.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Sometimes, the French like to forget about the Carmelite Nuns that became victims of the French Enlightenment. Just a reminder in case any of the French elitists are lurking.

Lest We forget, This is from the website: http://www.oksister.com/Saints/carmelite_martyrs_of_compiegne.htm

Carmelite Saints


Carmelite Martyrs of Compiegn

Memorial: July 17



Also known as: Sixteen Blessed Teresian Martyrs of Compiègne
Memorial: 17 July


Profile
They are:

Anne-Marie-Madeleine Thouret

Anne Petras

Marie-Geneviève Meunier

Rose-Chrétien de la Neuville

Euphrasia of the Immaculate Conception; aka Marie Claude Cyprienne Brard, or Catherine Charlotte Brard; born 1736 at Bourth, and professed in 1757

Madeleine-Claudine Ledoine (Mother Teresa of St. Augustine), prioress, b. in Paris, 22 Sept., 1752, professed 16 or 17 May, 1775

Marie-Anne (or Antoinette) Brideau (Mother St. Louis), sub-prioress, b. at Belfort, 7 Dec., 1752, professed 3 Sept, 1771

Marie-Anne Piedcourt (Sister of Jesus Crucified), choir-nun, b. 1715, professed 1737; on mounting the scaffold she said "I forgive you as heartily as I wish God to forgive me"

Marie-Antoniette or Anne Hanisset (Sister Teresa of the Holy Heart of Mary), b. at Rheims in 1740 or 1742, professed in 1764

Marie-Françoise Gabrielle de Croissy (Mother Henriette of Jesus), b. in Paris, 18 June, 1745, professed 22 Feb., 1764, prioress from 1779 to 1785

Marie-Gabrielle Trézel (Sister Teresa of St. Ignatius), choir-nun, b. at Compiègne, 4 April, 1743, professed 12 Dec., 1771

There were also three lay sisters:

Angélique Roussel (Sister Mary of the Holy Ghost), lay sister, b. at Fresnes, 4 August, 1742, professed 14 May, 1769

Julie or Juliette Vérolot (Sister Saint Francis Xavier), lay sister, b. at Laignes or Lignières, 11 Jan., 1764, professed 12 Jan., 1789

Marie Dufour (Sister Saint Martha), lay sister, b. at Beaune, 1 or 2 Oct., 1742, entered the community in 1772

and two tourières, who were not Carmelites at all but servants at the nunnery:


Catherine Soiron, born 2 February 1742 at Compiègne

Teresa Soiron, born 23 January 1748 at Compiègne

both of whom had been in the service of the community since 1772.

These sixteen are the first martyrs of the French Revolution that have been recognized.


Died: guillotined on 17 July 1794 at the Place du Trône Renversé (modern Place de la Nation) in Paris, France Before their execution they knelt and chanted the "Veni Creator", as at a profession, after which they all renewed aloud their baptismal and religious vows. The heads and bodies of the martyrs were interred in a deep sand-pit about thirty feet square in a cemetery at Picpus. As this sand-pit was the receptacle of the bodies of 1298 victims of the Revolution, there seems to be no hope of their relics being recovered. Five secondary relics are in the possession of the Benedictines of Stanbrook, Worcestershire.


Beatified: 27 May 1906 by Pope Pius X. The miracles proved during the process of beatification were:

The cure of Sister Clare of Saint Joseph, a Carmelite lay sister of New Orleans, when on the point of death from cancer, in June 1897

The cure of the Abbé Roussarie, of the seminary at Brive, when at the point of death, 7 March 1897

The cure of Sister Saint Martha of Saint Joseph, a Carmelite lay Sister of Vans, of tuberculosis and an abcess in the right leg, 1 December 1897.

The cure of Sister Saint Michael, a Franciscan of Montmorillon, 9 April 1898.


20 posted on 11/25/2004 8:47:33 PM PST by Seniram US (Quote of the Day: Smile You're An American)
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To: wagglebee

They also created a new calendar starting not with Jesus' birth, but with the Founding of the "Republic." The ten-day weeks abolished the sabbath. The metric system was also adopted and all this was done to purge all Christian influence from society.


21 posted on 11/25/2004 8:53:01 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: wagglebee
"the French Revolution was a war on Christianity"
Concur in part. I think it was more a war on the Church as an institution. Over the years (1,200 at least) the Church had quietly acquired a substantial portion of France's real estate. It was "tax exempt" even back then and this put quite a crimp into the central government's tax base. The aristocracy was of course excused from any taxes because somewhere in the deep dark past Charlemagne and his predecessors or successors had given their ancestors estates which were tax free because they fought the Saracens, Moores, Saxons, Infidels, Mohammedans, and God only knows what else.
22 posted on 11/25/2004 9:19:05 PM PST by Whispering Smith
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To: wagglebee
If you look closely, the French Revolution was a war on Christianity as much as anything.

Anti-God for sure. So hateful of the things of God were they that the revolutionists went into convents and pulled dead nuns out of their coffins and displayed them on the street.

23 posted on 11/25/2004 9:28:13 PM PST by Slyfox
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To: snopercod

Bump.


24 posted on 11/25/2004 9:29:31 PM PST by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: lavrenti

The French resistance was communist dominated. I tried to read a book about it once and couldn't make heads or tails of the thing. Finally I figured out that it was the same tripe as other commie loving books. All words that didn't mean anything.


25 posted on 11/26/2004 2:16:46 AM PST by Luke21
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To: wagglebee
No worries, I'm certian in a few decades, the Islamofascists will rewrite the French Socialists out of history altogether.

Only the stench will remain as a testament that they ever existed. How utterly appropriate...

26 posted on 11/26/2004 2:52:38 AM PST by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: wagglebee

I'll pass the message to the 200,000 French soldiers who died fighting Axis foprces in WW2 and who probably didn't know they "lacked the moral clarity to make a stand". And to the 1.4 million who died fighting Imperial Germany 25 years before.


27 posted on 11/26/2004 5:53:02 AM PST by Atlantic Friend (Cursum Perficio)
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To: VOA

What is this "G-d" that you refer to?


28 posted on 11/26/2004 5:58:28 AM PST by RushLake (Permission from the UN...we don't need no stinking permission slip from the UN.)
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To: wagglebee

The ideals of the French Revolution - according to Hayak - were separate from those of our revolution until FDR. Imposing an intelectual view of the way things ought to be on the masses - rather than the almost trial and error approach we have


29 posted on 11/26/2004 6:04:17 AM PST by The Raven
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To: Tailgunner Joe

"The French Revolutionaries stole the property of the church and crowned a prostitute
on the altar of Notre Dame and worshipped her as the goddess of "reason." "

Amazingly, my time at a fairly conservative (and well-regarded) high school
in conservative Oklahoma and graduation from a conservative church-affiliated
college didn't expose me to this obscenity.

Thankfully, I did get more of an exposure listening to an interview of the author of
"Serious Times" on the "Stands To Reason" radio show about the insanity of the French Revolution.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0830832114/qid=1101493914/sr=2-1/ref=pd_ka_b_2_1/103-2419384-7684661

http://www.str.org/cgi-bin/shop.pl/task=detail/item=BK235


30 posted on 11/26/2004 10:37:59 AM PST by VOA
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To: RushLake
What is this "G-d" that you refer to?

Well, for me personally, it's the deity (or trinity) of Christian faith (well,
at least for most flavors of Christianity).

I simply use the term "G-d" in public forums as a consesstion to some people's
sensibilities about not the full explicit name.
(Myself, I'm not offended by a modest use of the full three letters...)
31 posted on 11/26/2004 10:41:58 AM PST by VOA
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