Skip to comments."Surprise Hit Embarrasses Out-of-Touch Movie Elite" (Medved praises "National Treasure")
Posted on 11/25/2004 11:01:22 PM PST by churchillbuff
National Treasure," a surprise box office hit from Hollywood, demonstrates once again the embarrassing gap between cultural elite and the general public.
This splendid adventure movie starring Nicholas Cage drew overwhelmingly negative reviews, and leading critics even predicted its commercial failure. Ordinary moviegoers, however, have expressed gratitude for the film a clever romp with a patriotic heart and a family friendly "PG-rating," spinning an enjoyable yarn about a treasure map left by the founding fathers on the back of the Declaration of Independence. ...
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Did you end up seeing it?
Saw it tonight. My wife and I enjoyed it. I could see a Disneyland ride spinning off from some of those tunnel scenes - like the Raiders of Ark ride, or whatever it's called, that they've already got at Disneyland.
I dont recall any objectionable language - it was an adventure - fun - interesting - something the whole family could see
Hollywood needs to do more films like this; defintely some "out of the box" thinking going on here. I would put this and Sky Captain as the two films this year that were surprise hits for me.
The Declaration of Independence is shown?
This will be banned in CA, I tell you, banned!
I took our two teenagers and they met up with several of their friends on Wednesday to see it. I thoroughly enjoyed it! It just goes to show that movies CAN be made that are both enjoyed by whole families and can make money as well!
They highlighted a nice quote from the Declaration of Independence.
You have both hit on the probable reason the film got bad reviews. Anything Hollywood produces that does not savage the viewer with profane, obscene or scatalogical references is not "art" and thus not eligible for the Robert Maplethorpe Memorial Award.
Whole family absolutely loved it. Parents were so thrilled they couldn't stop saying how fantastic it was. Highly highly recommended for the family.
The Liberal left and the Homosexuals must be thrown out of Hollywood. Nobody wants their TRASH PHILOSOPHY OR FILTHY Lifestyle. Get back into the Trash heap where you belong !!
I almost fell asleep. What an awful movie.
"This will be banned in CA, I tell you, banned!"
LOL, looks like I might have to wrangle hubby to the movies yet again. Got him to go see Team America (F*** yeah!) (SORRY!) based on the premise that all Hollywood really understands is the box office. So maybe they need our $16.00 for National Treasure. Well, they might have to make do with $10.00, if we go see the FIRST showing at the mall near us.
It's a little Indiana Jones and a little Tombraider. It's not enlightening, and it drags from time to time, but over all, there aren't too many moments when you go, "Oh, geez, not this s*** again," and not any moments you'd have to cover the kids' eyes and make a mental "talk later" note. It's a good flick. You won't be up late pondering it in depth, but you also won't be lying awake, simmering, thinking "Why do I give those f*****s my money?!"
Speaking of movies, there are a number that should be sent into the toilet this fall season. Of course "Alexander" is already failing after its first day of release. A couple of other films should tank also, "Meet The Fockers" with Robert DeNiro (DeNiro has certainly gone down hill, hasn't he) and Barbra Steisand and Ocean's Twelve with that lightweight George Clooney and his pack of Democrat butt lickers. Actually, Hollywood is not having a very good year. Maybe they will get the message.
Well, someone "green lighted " it. I guess they deserve a bonus. :-)
I'm amazed that anybody makes adventure films with no graphic violenc, vulgar language or adult sexual situations. Those are so much part-and-parcel of the genre, it is hard for me to imagine a movie without them. I think this is a fabulous development, and I hope it is the start of a trend.
That PG rating opens up a whole new market.
My 15 yr old saw it last night, she came in and said, "Dad we have to see that movie together."
Nikki and John were both extreme individuals..
It never ceases to amaze me the Hollyweird hasn't caught on to the side-effects of the excesses of the previous generation. We are the first generation to grow up with an awareness of AIDS, ect. I have noticed that a lot of people my age (mid-to-late twenties) are having more kids, earlier than their parents, and are--in general--more conservative as well. We are getting married earlier as well, once again, generally speaking. Lots of people my age and younger are married with kids. (I married at 23, my younger brother married at 21--he's got two and will have one more, I will soon have five--just for example) I refuse to pollute my kids with crap...I saw too much growing up. The latchkey kids have grown up, and lots have rejected the so-called "values" many of us grew up with and were regularily portrayed in the movies and TV popular at the time. We're staying at home to raise our kids, getting married and staying married, and fewer and fewer are having sex or children before marriage. Hollyweird will catch on to this trend, or strangle to death on their own irrelevance.
Oh, come on now. There had to be nudity, some sex and lots of cussing for it to even get to the theater.
PG I didn't think those movies were made anymore.
Shooting yes, though I don't recall them actually making contact. Remember when they see Cage in the elevator with "the map" and start shooting? The case the map is happens to be bullet-proof...oops, spoiler, sorry.
Hey, is it me or am I the only one who reads too slow to see just who these "favorable" critics are when a commercial for a particular movie comes on TV? I'm talking specifically about Alexander.
I consider myself a fast reader . . . the fastest in my speed-reading class a hundred years or so ago when I took it . . . but, man oh man, it flashed by so quickly I couldn't catch squat.
First off, let me be blunt. I will never, no-way-in-hell, ever see another Oliver Stone movie. But I saw a commercial of it yesterday and the commercial flashed what were some absolutely GREAT reviews. The announcer announced the reviews in an excited, passionate, breathless tone . . . but conveniently forgot to mention just who the folks were he was quoting. The letters in the praise were big and bold and easily read but the names of the reviewers nearly blended in with the background and flashed by so quickly I couldn't read who was praising it.
I'm mindful of the one movie studio . . . Sony, maybe? . . . who had some schlep reviewing movies under an assumed name to give their movies a jump at the box-office.
I've read some awful reviews and comments about Oliver "I'm proud to be a Traitor" Stone's latest history-reinvention piece on FR and I was curious to see who the reviewers were.
Has anyone else noticed it's awfully hard to see JUST WHO IT IS giving these great reviews to liberal movies?
Maybe Medved is making too much out of this. The same reviewers, after all, have given savagely negative treatment to "Alexander", a film which apparently highlights the main characters bisexuality and was made by Oliver Stone, a leftist darling.
Its about Russia.
I think it is just great that your child and you enjoyed the movie.
When my wife and I 1st started going together, the 1st movie I took her to see was 'Old Yeller'. She knew I was a country boy in my heart after that. LOL
I have nothing but empirical evidence but it sure does seem forced to me. A parallel example: At Hollywood video keep your eyes open to how many copies of a film hits the shelf and its rental patterns. Ella Enchanted received good reviews and was enjoyable family entertainment. I saw seven to ten total copies and had to wait two weeks to rent it. Close by filling an entire shelf section was The Girl Next Door. I have not seen it and I know enough about the story to keep it that way. The many copies went largly unrented. If frequency of rental is crucial to profit maximization then they are either ignorant of what the data may be telling them or there is intentional bias.
If someone out there has more info Im all eyes. I know there are many possible factors I have omitted, but I have seen the same thing over and over. Fahrenheit 9/11 filled 1½ sections and languished on the shelf - in NY! (perhaps there is hope)
hope your wrong...rto
I *believe* it was:
"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."
I might be wrong, though. My backup quote would be: "That whenever any Form of
Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."
IN any event, it was summarised by Gates (Cage's character) as something like: "When somethign is wrong, those who have the power to fix it hav ethe responsibility to fix it."
And that line from the ad "the dollar bill is trying to tell me something" seemed kinda dumb.
Glad the movie is ok. I think that some of the negative reviews might just be Nick Cage burnout though.
For months I couldn't get away from seeing advertisments for The Girl Next Door, whether it was on websites, television, or on campus. Frankly, it looks like a piece of crap more suitable for the straight to video bin. I don't know why the hype. Plus the blonde that kept adorning those ads, well, didn't really do it for me.
Better watch out: "Loved it" are Rex Reed's two favorite words.
I read a review of it and the writer focused more on Cage's resume and talent than the film; I must have been the last person to learn that Nicolas Cage is actually named Coppola and is the nephew of Frank Coppola.
Never even heard of it till I read this post (girl next door). Ran a google search. The only thing REMOTELY interesting is Sung Hi Lee in it. I think she's gorgeous.
So THIS movie was hyped big time, eh? Doesn't look like anything I'd see, but hey, what do I know? I was looking at one of the higher end 'men's mags' (GQ or Esquire, forget which) whilst waiting for my stepson's prescription to be filled, and it had a lot of 'top 50' lists (top songs, top albums, etc.). I conclude from this magazine that I, alas, shall NEVER be hip, cool, or any variation thereof.
I'm with you, looks like direct to video to me.
Sooner or later corporate guys are going to kick some "elite" butt. This movie's success and Alexander the "Fabulous" failure bring that day a little closer.
So am I, read the profile.
Great Movie! totally fun!
and more evidence of how out of touch most movie critics are!
I would recommend the movie and recommend you take your kids as well.
p.s. Buttered popcorn at my theatre rated: Poor!
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