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"Surprise Hit Embarrasses Out-of-Touch Movie Elite" (Medved praises "National Treasure")
jwr ^ | Nov 24 04 | Michael Medved

Posted on 11/25/2004 11:01:22 PM PST by churchillbuff

National Treasure," a surprise box office hit from Hollywood, demonstrates once again the embarrassing gap between cultural elite and the general public.

This splendid adventure movie starring Nicholas Cage drew overwhelmingly negative reviews, and leading critics even predicted its commercial failure. Ordinary moviegoers, however, have expressed gratitude for the film — a clever romp with a patriotic heart and a family friendly "PG-rating," spinning an enjoyable yarn about a treasure map left by the founding fathers on the back of the Declaration of Independence. ...

(Excerpt) Read more at jewishworldreview.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: bushcountry; culturewar; doi; film; flyovercountry; liberalelites; michaelmedved; moviereview; nationaltreasure
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To: churchillbuff

My 15 yr old saw it last night, she came in and said, "Dad we have to see that movie together."


21 posted on 11/26/2004 2:19:39 AM PST by SeeRushToldU_So (We won !)
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To: shibumi
Interesting choice of screen name and tagline.

Nikki and John were both extreme individuals..

22 posted on 11/26/2004 3:18:51 AM PST by .45MAN ("God bless America and George W. Bush")
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To: churchillbuff

Which is..........

....What??


23 posted on 11/26/2004 3:26:49 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Carling
The Declaration of Independence is shown?

This will be banned in CA, I tell you, banned!


No - in California, the Hollywood elite will engage in an activity that they find loathesome (when they consider the possibility of parents doing it to DVDs on behalf of their children). They will edit out the offending parts that show the DoI, and insert bad voiceover calling it "generic historical document that in no way espouses a single religion".
24 posted on 11/26/2004 3:56:40 AM PST by beezdotcom (I'm usually either right or wrong...)
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To: churchillbuff

It never ceases to amaze me the Hollyweird hasn't caught on to the side-effects of the excesses of the previous generation. We are the first generation to grow up with an awareness of AIDS, ect. I have noticed that a lot of people my age (mid-to-late twenties) are having more kids, earlier than their parents, and are--in general--more conservative as well. We are getting married earlier as well, once again, generally speaking. Lots of people my age and younger are married with kids. (I married at 23, my younger brother married at 21--he's got two and will have one more, I will soon have five--just for example) I refuse to pollute my kids with crap...I saw too much growing up. The latchkey kids have grown up, and lots have rejected the so-called "values" many of us grew up with and were regularily portrayed in the movies and TV popular at the time. We're staying at home to raise our kids, getting married and staying married, and fewer and fewer are having sex or children before marriage. Hollyweird will catch on to this trend, or strangle to death on their own irrelevance.


25 posted on 11/26/2004 4:00:13 AM PST by exnavychick
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To: ChicagoRighty

Oh, come on now. There had to be nudity, some sex and lots of cussing for it to even get to the theater.


PG I didn't think those movies were made anymore.


26 posted on 11/26/2004 4:56:40 AM PST by B4Ranch ((The lack of alcohol in my coffee forces me to see reality!))
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To: ChicagoRighty

Shooting yes, though I don't recall them actually making contact. Remember when they see Cage in the elevator with "the map" and start shooting? The case the map is happens to be bullet-proof...oops, spoiler, sorry.


27 posted on 11/26/2004 5:02:34 AM PST by tai-pan (mainstream WHAT?)
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To: ChicagoRighty
The fact that the critics got it wrong before the film was released was a bonus.

GREAT LINE!!

Hey, is it me or am I the only one who reads too slow to see just who these "favorable" critics are when a commercial for a particular movie comes on TV? I'm talking specifically about Alexander.

I consider myself a fast reader . . . the fastest in my speed-reading class a hundred years or so ago when I took it . . . but, man oh man, it flashed by so quickly I couldn't catch squat.

First off, let me be blunt. I will never, no-way-in-hell, ever see another Oliver Stone movie. But I saw a commercial of it yesterday and the commercial flashed what were some absolutely GREAT reviews. The announcer announced the reviews in an excited, passionate, breathless tone . . . but conveniently forgot to mention just who the folks were he was quoting. The letters in the praise were big and bold and easily read but the names of the reviewers nearly blended in with the background and flashed by so quickly I couldn't read who was praising it.

I'm mindful of the one movie studio . . . Sony, maybe? . . . who had some schlep reviewing movies under an assumed name to give their movies a jump at the box-office.

I've read some awful reviews and comments about Oliver "I'm proud to be a Traitor" Stone's latest history-reinvention piece on FR and I was curious to see who the reviewers were.

Has anyone else noticed it's awfully hard to see JUST WHO IT IS giving these great reviews to liberal movies?

28 posted on 11/26/2004 5:08:58 AM PST by geedee (History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid.)
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To: churchillbuff

Maybe Medved is making too much out of this. The same reviewers, after all, have given savagely negative treatment to "Alexander", a film which apparently highlights the main characters bisexuality and was made by Oliver Stone, a leftist darling.


29 posted on 11/26/2004 5:18:31 AM PST by jalisco555 ("The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity." W. B. Yeats)
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To: B4Ranch
Believe it or not,. the most we got out the "pretty librarian" character was a big smooch at one point, later in the film. Definitely hard to believe.

From a 6 year-old's perspective, (one with an intense imagination) I thought the movie was perfect.
30 posted on 11/26/2004 5:44:30 AM PST by ChicagoRighty (Surrounded by libbies and damn tired of it!)
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To: geedee
I took a speed reading course years ago too. I read War and Peace in ten minutes.

Its about Russia.

31 posted on 11/26/2004 5:51:59 AM PST by Lawgvr1955 (I think Kerry needs more cowbell.)
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To: ChicagoRighty

I think it is just great that your child and you enjoyed the movie.

When my wife and I 1st started going together, the 1st movie I took her to see was 'Old Yeller'. She knew I was a country boy in my heart after that. LOL


32 posted on 11/26/2004 6:01:22 AM PST by B4Ranch ((The lack of alcohol in my coffee forces me to see reality!))
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To: churchillbuff
This is no surprise at all. It is well known that that "family" films (G, PG etc.) do far better at the box office than R rated films, yet Hollywood continues to pump out garbage like "Alexander". No doubt they just MUST have their artistic freedom; I have mine around 0800, but rather than foisting it on others I flip a lever and dispose of it properly.

I have nothing but empirical evidence but it sure does seem forced to me. A parallel example: At Hollywood video keep your eyes open to how many copies of a film hits the shelf and its rental patterns. “Ella Enchanted” received good reviews and was enjoyable family entertainment. I saw seven to ten total copies and had to wait two weeks to rent it. Close by filling an entire shelf section was “The Girl Next Door”. I have not seen it and I know enough about the story to keep it that way. The many copies went largly unrented. If frequency of rental is crucial to profit maximization then they are either ignorant of what the data may be telling them or there is intentional bias.

If someone out there has more info I’m all eyes. I know there are many possible factors I have omitted, but I have seen the same thing over and over. Fahrenheit 9/11 filled 1½ sections and languished on the shelf - in NY! (perhaps there is hope)

33 posted on 11/26/2004 6:23:43 AM PST by 70times7 (An open mind is a cesspool of thought)
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To: Straight Vermonter

hope your wrong...rto


34 posted on 11/26/2004 6:30:45 AM PST by visitor (...and the dems wonder why they lost and will continue to lose, good riddance)
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To: Elsie

I *believe* it was:
"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."

I might be wrong, though. My backup quote would be: "That whenever any Form of
Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."

IN any event, it was summarised by Gates (Cage's character) as something like: "When somethign is wrong, those who have the power to fix it hav ethe responsibility to fix it."


35 posted on 11/26/2004 7:44:49 AM PST by orionblamblam
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To: All
There is no liberal agenda as to why I haven't wanted to see this. Nicolas Cage has really started to overact badly in most movies if the director doesn't really restrict him.

And that line from the ad "the dollar bill is trying to tell me something" seemed kinda dumb.

Glad the movie is ok. I think that some of the negative reviews might just be Nick Cage burnout though.

36 posted on 11/26/2004 7:49:46 AM PST by dogbyte12 (Proud New Daddy since 11-11-04)
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To: 70times7

For months I couldn't get away from seeing advertisments for “The Girl Next Door,” whether it was on websites, television, or on campus. Frankly, it looks like a piece of crap more suitable for the straight to video bin. I don't know why the hype. Plus the blonde that kept adorning those ads, well, didn't really do it for me.


37 posted on 11/26/2004 7:58:03 AM PST by Galactic Overlord-In-Chief (Congratulations to Senator-elect David Vitter, the first GOP senator from LA since Reconstruction!)
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To: geedee
But I saw a commercial of it yesterday and the commercial flashed what were some absolutely GREAT reviews. The announcer announced the reviews in an excited, passionate, breathless tone . . . but conveniently forgot to mention just who the folks were he was quoting. The letters in the praise were big and bold and easily read but the names of the reviewers nearly blended in with the background and flashed by so quickly I couldn't read who was praising it.

There are enough newspapers, tv stations, internet sites, magazines, etc, to fish out three or four favorable (some would say ridiculously so) quotes for any movie, even if it is a turkey.
38 posted on 11/26/2004 8:00:23 AM PST by Galactic Overlord-In-Chief (Congratulations to Senator-elect David Vitter, the first GOP senator from LA since Reconstruction!)
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To: churchillbuff
Saw it

LOVED IT!!!!
39 posted on 11/26/2004 8:04:26 AM PST by glaseatr (God Bless, My Nephew, SGT Adam Estep 2nd Bat, 5th Cav reg died Thursday April 29, 2004 Baghdad Iraq)
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To: glaseatr

Better watch out: "Loved it" are Rex Reed's two favorite words.


40 posted on 11/26/2004 8:08:45 AM PST by Austin Willard Wright
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