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Kinsey & Ebert, At the Movies
Illinois Leader ^ | 11/19/2004 | Arlen Williams

Posted on 11/26/2004 12:26:19 PM PST by McCormick Reaper

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IL MEDIA UNSPUN: Kinsey & Ebert, At the Movies

Friday, November 19, 2004

By Arlen Williams, media critic (arlen.williams@unspun.info)

Alfred Kinsey's life is featured in a new film, "Kinsey," released this weekend.
 
The Chicago Sun Times' film critic Roger Ebert is a native of Downstate Urbana.

Warning: This column is not suitable for children, nor some adults.

OPINION -- A movie is now being shown that promotes one of the most evil and destructive figures in the 20th Century. The setting: not Berlin, nor Moscow, nor Peking . . . but Bloomington, Indiana.

People of informed conscience are exposing this film and its subject for what they are. Roger Ebert doesn't like that.

The film is about Alfred Kinsey, Ph.D., Professor at Indiana University, Darwinist zoologist, sex researcher, sex research defrauder, sexual anti-moralist, sexual abuse enabler, personally sexual pervert, and pseudo-scientific high priest of the Sexual Revolution.

What a Hoosier, eh?

In his 11/14 Sun-Times column, "Sex and the Scientist," Roger Ebert does what a defender of the Sexual Revolution does and what myriads in the media are doing right now, concerning this movie.

In fact, his is a classic example of post-Kinseyan, freedom-from-morality apologia.

Ebert claims that Kinsey "never advocated anything and specialized in research that simply attempted to discover what people actually do in their sex lives." Tactic to note: deny true motives in the false name of the noble quest for scientific truth.

According to Ebert, "Kinsey found that most people masturbated, that a third of men reported at least one homosexual experience, and that oral sex and extramarital sex were commonplace."

Actually Kinsey "found" much more than that. For one thing, Kinsey found an overwhelmingly skewed set of subjects for this research in the populations of prisons --not to mention the manipulation of those willing in the mid 20th Century to sit down and answer hundreds of questions about their sexual experiences.

He even sought out many prostitutes and sex offenders to lump into his research, while secretly trashing three quarters of his data. Hardly a control sample.

But control was a problem for Dr. Kinsey. While he was very controlling of his methods and student researchers, he did not exhibit much control of his own sexuality. His death in 1956 is attributed to "orchitis," which flowery word refers to a testicular infection that according to noted Kinsey debunker, Judith Reisman, Ph.D., "followed years of sadistic, orgiastic 'self-abuse.'"

The real story on Kinsey may be found in numerous places. I am drawing from the 11/12 WorldNetDaily column, "Selling sex in the U.S.A." by editor David Kupelian and his citation of the findings of Dr. Reisman. I suggest the very informative albeit tortuous read.

Torture. That gets to another point.

Ebert's defense of the Hoosier prof failed to mention the heart-rending evil Kinsey's "research" included. It wasn't just about answering the questions, "What do you do when you're alone?" and "What do you mean by 'kiss?'"

Kinsey's "Table 34" features exacting data on the sexual abuse of children -- down to age five months.

"Kinsey solicited and encouraged pedophiles, at home and abroad, to sexually violate from 317 to 2,035 infants and children for his alleged data on normal 'child sexuality.'"

Explaining further, Kupelian relates:

For example, "Table 34" on page 180 of Kinsey's "Sexual Behavior in the Human Male" claims to be a "scientific" record of "multiple orgasm in pre-adolescent males." Here, infants as young as five months were timed with a stopwatch for "orgasm" by Kinsey's "technically trained" aides, with one four-year-old tested 24 consecutive hours for an alleged 26 "orgasms."

Sex educators, pedophiles and their advocates commonly quote these child "data" to prove children's need for homosexual, heterosexual and bisexual satisfaction via "safe-sex" education. These data are also regularly used to "prove" children are sexual from birth.

No, Ebert somehow overlooks the facts, purporting instead that the key issues were about such things as whether or not to try positions besides "missionary."

Another exemplary tactic used by Ebert is the characterizing of Kinsey and all the Son of Kinsey chips off the ol' monster out there as heroes of freedom, besieged by "the forces of prudery."

That's you and me -- if you believe sex is about marriage/family.

You see, when one is defending the harmful practices of sin, against those who uphold the way life may be enjoyed from beginning through end, he must portray the wholesome as the ones aberrant.

At the feet of Alfred the Hoosier we may lay tens of millions of abortions, a culture of porn, NAMBLA's organized pedophilia, the media's "homosexual chic" cause, and countless, endemic cases of spiritual, relational, and psychological harm.

Celebrate the movie promoting America's own 20th Century mega-villian!

Roger's thumb is up...

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Meet America's "Pseudoscientific High Priest of the Sexual Revolution" and "20th Century mega-villian."

Alfred Kinsey had researchers observe the sexual torture of children of all ages, down to 5 months. "Orgams" they recorded in these hideous criminal acts included hysterical crying, screams, and... convulsions. His research critera was a joke, from a scientific perspective --not funny at all, from a human perspective.

1 posted on 11/26/2004 12:26:19 PM PST by McCormick Reaper
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To: McCormick Reaper
More than not funny, it's hideous! The plan is to produce more and more dysfunctional homosexuals, (as we all know 87% of homosexuals were sexually abused as children) thus increasing their numbers. For this end, they abuse children. Every one of these people should be behind bars. Those poor kids will never be right.
2 posted on 11/26/2004 12:41:16 PM PST by gidget7 (God Bless America, and our President George W. Bush)
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To: McCormick Reaper

Wasn't there a movie a few years ago, glorifying the Marquis de Sade?


3 posted on 11/26/2004 12:42:17 PM PST by Paul Atreides
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To: McCormick Reaper

I was reading Drudge and clicked on one of his story/links regarding the latest box office results.

MOJO: http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=kinsey.htm

I was pleasantly surprised to see that the movie about the pervert and discredited so-called sex scholar, Kinsey, was fully bombing at the box office. “Kinsey” cost $11 million to produce; was released Nov. 12 and to date has only made $1 million. It is upside-down some $10 million.


4 posted on 11/26/2004 12:42:36 PM PST by taxcutisapayraise
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To: gidget7
as we all know 87% of homosexuals were sexually abused as children

I have not heard this. Do yo have a source for this statistic>

5 posted on 11/26/2004 12:42:58 PM PST by Maceman (Too nuanced for a bumper sticker)
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To: McCormick Reaper
"The Chicago Sun Times' film critic Roger Ebert is a native of Downstate Urbana."

I thought it was Siskel that was from Urbana.

6 posted on 11/26/2004 12:59:04 PM PST by Neanderthal
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To: Paul Atreides
Wasn't there a movie a few years ago, glorifying the Marquis de Sade?

"Quills"

7 posted on 11/26/2004 12:59:28 PM PST by McCormick Reaper
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To: Paul Atreides
Quills?

Plot Outline: In a Napoleonic era insane asylum, an inmate, the irrepressible Marquis De Sade, fights a battle of wills against a tyrannically prudish doctor.

8 posted on 11/26/2004 1:02:15 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: taxcutisapayraise

Isn't "Alexander" bombing, as well?


9 posted on 11/26/2004 1:02:50 PM PST by Paul Atreides
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To: McCormick Reaper

Not surprising that the homosexual Ebert believes in the fradualant Kinsey. No surprise at all.


10 posted on 11/26/2004 1:05:26 PM PST by Bullish
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To: Bullish
Ebert never saw a homosexually-themed movie he didn't like.
11 posted on 11/26/2004 1:06:24 PM PST by Paul Atreides
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To: Paul Atreides

Ain't that the truth!


12 posted on 11/26/2004 1:07:13 PM PST by Bullish
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To: weegee
Funny how sadomasochistic rapists are heroes, while moral people are not only prudes, but tyrannical prudes....
13 posted on 11/26/2004 1:11:15 PM PST by unspun (unspun.info | Did U work your precinct, churchmembers, etc. for good votes?)
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To: Paul Atreides
I do not see how Alexander can fail to be a flop. $155m budget, $60m marketing. Maybe they're hoping for outrageous overseas box office. It's too early, look at Drudge Saturday night.

But, according to Box Office Mojo, only 235 movies have ever made $215m. Ever.

14 posted on 11/26/2004 1:13:54 PM PST by AmishDude
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To: Paul Atreides

LOL!!


15 posted on 11/26/2004 1:14:47 PM PST by bonfire
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To: taxcutisapayraise
It's too early to judge the bombasity of the movie. They release it for academy consideration at a few theatres in LA and NYC during the holiday season and hope it will survive until the oscars. Then a boost from a win and into the spring.

If it really tanks, it won't get wide/countrywide release and will disappear. My guess is that this will be it's fate. Then we will know it's truely a bomb.

16 posted on 11/26/2004 1:15:19 PM PST by verifythentrust
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To: verifythentrust

first "wide" is citywide.


17 posted on 11/26/2004 1:16:38 PM PST by verifythentrust
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To: taxcutisapayraise
>i>was released Nov. 12 and to date has only made $1 million. It is upside-down some $10 million

It was initially released to 5 theaters, the following week to 36, and is now in 185. The per-theater box office is high. The distributors have been testing the waters to see how much interest there is in the film. It's not a bust yet, which is why Ebert may be talking it up

18 posted on 11/26/2004 1:16:40 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (We are going to fight until hell freezes over and then we are going to fight on the ice)
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To: AmishDude

Oliver Stone has fled to Europe to avoid critics here. The public has already pegged this movied as Stone's "gay" movie and a poor script flop.

Does the EU have similar buzz outlets? Do EU movie goers have the same access to the internet, text messaging movie observations, or just finding the movie reviews?


19 posted on 11/26/2004 1:18:01 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: McCormick Reaper
His research critera was a joke, from a scientific perspective --not funny at all, from a human perspective.

So was Margaret Mead's. The principal postulates of liberal agenda are badly executed hoaxes. Liberals count on the basic trait of human nature - laziness .

Information is out there but the majority of people will not bother to check.

20 posted on 11/26/2004 1:20:49 PM PST by DTA (proud pajamista)
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To: longtermmemmory
Does the EU have similar buzz outlets? Do EU movie goers have the same access to the internet, text messaging movie observations, or just finding the movie reviews?

I'm sure the lawsuit by the Greek Lawyers for Truth, so to speak, is getting buzz. But in Europe, does a homosexual tag hurt or help boxoffice? "That is the question." Probably helps in Amsterdam, Paris, Brussels....

21 posted on 11/26/2004 1:22:01 PM PST by unspun (unspun.info | Did U work your precinct, churchmembers, etc. for good votes?)
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To: DTA
So was Margaret Mead's.

What did Margaret fudge?

22 posted on 11/26/2004 1:23:19 PM PST by McCormick Reaper
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To: McCormick Reaper
Thanks for the include.
23 posted on 11/26/2004 1:24:15 PM PST by unspun (unspun.info | Did U work your precinct, churchmembers, etc. for good votes?)
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To: unspun
No Dicking Around: Bill Condon's movie about Kinsey is warm -- and plenty hot, too

This alternative weekly newspaper had a review for Kinsey and said that it was "non-judgemental", yet it sounds like much is done to demonize anyone who would speak of morals.

He lives under the thumb of a proselytizing pop (John Lithgow), who believes everything made by man leads to sin -- especially the zipper, which provides "speedy access to moral oblivion." Kinsey's father, we discover later, has his understandable reasons for believing sex a deviant's pastime; Condon, as tolerant and compassionate as his subject, is not beyond trying to understand how a man becomes a monster.

[snip]

Among his students is Clara "Mac" McMillen (Laura Linney), who fancies the professor but believes him "too churchy." Theirs is a cool courtship that culminates in wedding-night lovemaking more akin to wrestling than sex. Watching the pain on her face, and the humiliation on his, is almost too much to bear, but Condon doesn't pull back or grimace or, yes, even judge.

The writer claims that the Kinsey's had awkward sex when they both lost virginity on their wedding night. "Certainly" wouldn't have had anything to do with Alfred's preference of male sexual encounters, now would it?

24 posted on 11/26/2004 1:32:03 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: weegee
Can you say, "agenda?"

I knew you could.
25 posted on 11/26/2004 1:35:01 PM PST by unspun (unspun.info | Did U work your precinct, churchmembers, etc. for good votes?)
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To: Bullish
Roger isn't gay, just not always lucky in love. He is married now. Russ Meyer got him a lot of women back in the 1970s (at least one was purported to be working as an escort).

He does count Summer Lovers (with its menage a tois) as one of his 10 guilty pleasures and I think that he has confessed to not being above giving a movie a positive review if he has a crush on one of the actresses.

26 posted on 11/26/2004 1:35:44 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: McCormick Reaper

The "Report" came out in times where few would dispute it due to the stigma of the subject itself.


27 posted on 11/26/2004 1:42:12 PM PST by Solamente
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To: McCormick Reaper
His death in 1956 is attributed to "orchitis," which flowery word refers to a testicular infection that according to noted Kinsey debunker, Judith Reisman, Ph.D., "followed years of sadistic, orgiastic 'self-abuse.'"

Actually orchitis refers to inflamation or swelling of the testicals. It does not have to be associated with an infection. Sometimes one can get it as a result of a hernia or forms of cancer. One of the most common infection that causes orchitis is mump and is very uncommon in adult males. If he had an infection it would be nice to know what it was. Men do not usually die of orchitis alone.

28 posted on 11/26/2004 2:02:05 PM PST by foolscap
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To: unspun

I saw this movie at an advanced screening... by Fox Films. I wonder what Rupert has to say?


29 posted on 11/26/2004 2:07:57 PM PST by yayforlater
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To: McCormick Reaper

Talk about perverse. This guy is still regarded as a "pioneer" in the study of human sexuality. He was a pedophile, and a sexual sadist as well.


30 posted on 11/26/2004 2:14:35 PM PST by thombo
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To: Paul Atreides
Wasn't there a movie a few years ago, glorifying the Marquis de Sade?

Yep. IIRC it was called "Quills" and Ebert loved it.

31 posted on 11/26/2004 2:16:39 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (The future is all around us, waiting in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

I haven't read an Ebert review for years (I don't go to movies anymore anyway), but when I did go, I found Ebert to be a perfect reverse barometer. If he hated something, I usually liked it and vice versa. It seemed Ebert especially loves that pseudo-arty European "cine" trash. I watched a few promoted as wonderful by Roger the Snob and duly regretted it.


32 posted on 11/26/2004 3:48:40 PM PST by driftless ( For life-long happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: McCormick Reaper
>>>>>What did Margaret fudge?<<<<<

Her "Coming to age in Samoa" was taken as a Holy scripture by agents of change. It is a gross scientiffic fraud, fiction presented antropological facts

33 posted on 11/26/2004 4:31:11 PM PST by DTA (proud pajamista)
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To: driftless

A person could usually pick the movies that Ebert would like, before he even said a word.


34 posted on 11/26/2004 6:40:48 PM PST by Paul Atreides
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To: yayforlater
I saw this movie at an advanced screening... by Fox Films. I wonder what Rupert has to say?

Probably, "Give me even more money."

35 posted on 11/27/2004 8:59:48 AM PST by unspun (unspun.info | Did U work your precinct, churchmembers, etc. for good votes?)
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