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France: Arafat was born in Jerusalem
Jerusalem Post ^ | 11/26/4

Posted on 11/26/2004 7:01:22 PM PST by SmithL

Israel's ambassador to France has criticized the French government for issuing a death certificate for deceased Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat stating his place of birth as Jerusalem.

"I cannot understand how the French government agreed to issue a death certificate based on false information," ambassador Nissim Zvili told a press conference in Montpellier, AFP reported.

Municipal officials at Clamart, the suburb of Paris where Arafat died on November 11, said they issued the document on the basis of a family record book itself issued by the French foreign ministry in 1996.

Arafat was born Mohammed Abdel-Rawf Arafat al-Qudwa al-Hussaini, on August 4, 1929.

The official version of his life history records he was born in Jerusalem. However numerous biographers agree that he was, in fact, born in Cairo, where his father, from Gaza, owned a business.

French officials, citing privacy laws, still refuse to reveal the precise cause of death or the nature of his condition, leading to rumors - strongly denied by Palestinian officials - of poisoning.

AFP reported Zvili as saying the affair was "very badly perceived in Israel", adding that those responsible for issuing the "false document" could be subject to a legal process.

"I don't understand how when Arafat arrived in France he had been born in Cairo and when he left France he had been born in Jerusalem," he said. He also dismissed speculation that Arafat had been poisoned.

"There was a poisoning, but it wasn't of Arafat, but of public opinion in France, in Arab countries and among the Palestinian people," he said.

Zvili was taking part in a round table discussion on Israel in Montpellier.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: arafart; arafat; axisofevil; axisofweasels; dreyfus; france; israel; napalminthemorning; plo; religionofpeace; terrorist; vichy; wartimecollaborators; wot
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His death was cloaked in lies. His life was cloaked in lies. Why wouldn't his birth also be cloaked in lies?
1 posted on 11/26/2004 7:01:23 PM PST by SmithL
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To: SmithL

The French are doing everything they can to fan the flames of war in the Middle East.


2 posted on 11/26/2004 7:02:52 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: SmithL

Since his death and life were cloaked in lies, maybe he should be buried at the Clinton "Lie Bury" where all truth is laid to rest.


3 posted on 11/26/2004 7:04:20 PM PST by Young Werther
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To: SmithL

It's sort of fitting no? He got to go out with one more lie.


4 posted on 11/26/2004 7:06:20 PM PST by Threepwood
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To: SmithL
"France: Arafat was born in Jerusalem".

So what?

5 posted on 11/26/2004 7:07:22 PM PST by A Navy Vet (CARE PACKAGES for TROOPS: www.opgratitude.com - www.anysoldier.us)
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To: A Navy Vet

Becauase he was born in Eygpt.... and used that Jerusalem birthplace as a podium to lead from


6 posted on 11/26/2004 7:08:38 PM PST by chinkshady
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To: A Navy Vet

Really..born wherever........rot in h*ll.


7 posted on 11/26/2004 7:08:42 PM PST by AirForceMom (The purpose of life is to fight maturity)
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To: Brilliant
"The French are doing everything they can to fan the flames of war in the Middle East."

They have been doing that for some time.

This is going to be a great divorce for the USA. France gets the Muslims, and the USA gets the oil fields.

Traditionally the woman always got the house and the man used to get the mortgage payments, but this is the 21st century.

Politically incorrect? Who me?

8 posted on 11/26/2004 7:10:14 PM PST by Radix (I swear, I only left the Tag Line alone for a momenet, and just look at what has happened to it.)
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To: SmithL
"I cannot understand how the French government agreed to issue a death certificate based on false information," ambassador Nissim Zvili told a press conference in Montpellier, AFP reported.

Obviously said tongue-in-cheek.

9 posted on 11/26/2004 7:10:16 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: A Navy Vet
Mohammed Abdel Raouf Arafat al-Qudwa Al-Husseini, more commonly known as Yasser Arafat was the fifth of seven children born to a Palestinian textile merchant on August 24, 1929. According to Arafat and other sources, he was born in Jerusalem; however, French biographers, Christophe Boltanski and Jihan El-Tahri revealed in their 1997 book, Les sept vies de Yasser Arafat, that he was actually born in Cairo, Egypt, and that is where his birth certificate was registered. The Palestinian Academic Society for the Study of International Affairs also lists Arafat’s birthplace as Cairo. Ian Pacepa, a former Romanian intelligence official, disclosed that the KGB had invented a background for Arafat with a birthplace in Jerusalem.

Claims that Arafat was related to the Jerusalem Husseini clan through his mother have been disputed by the Palestinian historian Said Aburish. In an unauthorized biography, Aburish claims that “The young Arafat sought to establish his Palestinian credentials and promote his eventual claim to leadership... [and] could not afford to admit any facts which might reduce his Palestinian identity. ...Arafat insistently perpetuated the legend that he had been born in Jerusalem and was related to the important Husseini clan of that city.”

Arafat’s childhood was divided between Cairo and Jerusalem, where he lived for four years with an uncle following the death of his mother when he was five. Arafat entered the University of King Faud I (later renamed Cairo University) in 1947 and studied engineering. It was during his college years that Arafat adopted the name Yasser, which means “easygoing” in Arabic.

During the 1948 Arab-Israeli war, Arafat left the university and, along with other Palestinians, sought to enter Palestine to fight for Palestinian independence. He was disarmed and turned back by Egyptian military forces that refused to allow the poorly trained partisans to enter the war zone. After returning to the university, Arafat joined the Muslim Brotherhood and served as president of the Union of Palestinian Students from 1952 to 1956. By 1956, Arafat graduated with a bachelor’s degree in civil engineering and served as a second lieutenant in the Egyptian Army during the Suez Crisis.

10 posted on 11/26/2004 7:12:56 PM PST by Popman
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To: SmithL
Arafat was ripped from the womb of a jackal and it didn't happen in Jerusalem
11 posted on 11/26/2004 7:13:47 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (Free the Fallujah one.)
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To: Popman
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/biography/arafat.html

Link

12 posted on 11/26/2004 7:14:02 PM PST by Popman
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To: Brilliant
The French are doing everything they can to fan the flames of war in the Middle East.

And never forget, nobody does anything w/o a reason. As always, "Follow the money."

13 posted on 11/26/2004 7:14:51 PM PST by yankeedame ("Born with the gift of laughter & a sense that the world was mad.")
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To: Popman
"I cannot understand how the French government agreed to issue a death certificate based on false information,"

Ah, but you don't understand ze French! Zey are raghead-loving, cheese-eating, surrender weasels.

14 posted on 11/26/2004 7:15:32 PM PST by ReadyNow
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To: SmithL

And Hitler was born in Paris.


15 posted on 11/26/2004 7:19:58 PM PST by vbmoneyspender
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To: SmithL

The French are complicit in so many lies.....


16 posted on 11/26/2004 7:21:49 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: SmithL
It's france. What do you expect? If it was to their advantage or would just cause other people problems to claim that Arafat was a royal prince they would do it.
17 posted on 11/26/2004 7:27:46 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (The future is all around us, waiting in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation.)
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To: SmithL

france (lower case f intentional)...a shi**y little country.


18 posted on 11/26/2004 7:34:12 PM PST by Mr. Keys
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To: anniegetyourgun
The French are complicit in so many lies.....

Sounds so much like the demoncrats. The truth is so alien to their way of life.

19 posted on 11/26/2004 7:35:47 PM PST by Trepz
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To: SmithL

When I think of France I'm always reminded of the movies *Elizabeth* and *La Reine Margot* http://www.eufs.org.uk/films/la_reine_margot.html


20 posted on 11/26/2004 7:41:23 PM PST by sully777 (Our descendants will be enslaved by political expediency and expenditure)
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To: SmithL

There is no depth to which the French whores won't sink....
They are the Arab's bitch ---- to the end.
Hope it comes soon..

Semper Fi


21 posted on 11/26/2004 7:41:40 PM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek...But I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: SmithL

Israel could wup France's ass I bet.


22 posted on 11/26/2004 7:47:39 PM PST by FredWolfe
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To: A Navy Vet
So what?

This is such a big deal it is hard to put to words. The Muslims want control over Jerusalem. So much so, they invented the place Mohammed assended to heaven on his horse was from Jerusalem. David Ben-Gurion's famous statement in 1948: "The value of Jerusalem cannot be measured, weighed, or put into words. If the land has a soul, Jerusalem is that soul of the Land of Israel. The vow we made by the waters of Babylon obligates us today as it did in the past."

23 posted on 11/26/2004 7:47:54 PM PST by Andy from Beaverton (I only vote Republican to stop the Democrats)
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To: SmithL

The unbelievable has become reality. What's next?


24 posted on 11/26/2004 7:48:39 PM PST by Dec31,1999 (www.protestwarrior.com)
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To: Andy from Beaverton
...The Muslims want control over Jerusalem...

They have no business in JerUSAlem, and neither did/does Arafat -- either his live or dead carcass.

26 posted on 11/26/2004 7:52:59 PM PST by MCH
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To: Brilliant
"The French are doing everything they can to fan the flames of war in the Middle East."

Indeed.

27 posted on 11/26/2004 9:14:08 PM PST by Reactionary
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To: SmithL

Who cares? Arafat can rot in Hell.


28 posted on 11/26/2004 11:17:45 PM PST by Ptarmigan (Proud rabbit hater and killer)
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To: SmithL
"I cannot understand how the French government agreed to issue a death certificate based on false information," ambassador Nissim Zvili told a press conference in Montpellier, AFP reported.

He is of course not really so naive.

29 posted on 11/27/2004 1:14:10 AM PST by thoughtomator (The Era of Old Media is over! Long live the Pajamasphere!)
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To: Ptarmigan

Just add it to the list of very good reasons to hate the French.


30 posted on 11/27/2004 1:14:45 AM PST by thoughtomator (The Era of Old Media is over! Long live the Pajamasphere!)
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Israel: Hitler was born in Paris.

Basically its the same thing to say.

Atleast he died (with pain) in Frarab.
I hope God is behind this :)


31 posted on 11/27/2004 1:13:09 PM PST by IAF ThunderPilot (Israel Defence Forces)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...
If you'd like to be on or off this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.
32 posted on 11/28/2004 6:19:47 AM PST by SJackson ( Bush is as free as a bird, He is only accountable to history and God, Ra'anan Gissin)
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To: SmithL; dennisw; SJackson; MeekOneGOP; TrueBeliever9; Geist Krieger; JohnHuang2; Salem; Sanch; ...
On Yassar Arafat's official cause of death and place of birth - ping.

(The Frenchies know. They will straighten everything out.)

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"There was a poisoning, but it wasn't of Arafat, but of public opinion in France, in Arab countries and among the Palestinian people," he said.

33 posted on 11/28/2004 6:51:32 AM PST by Happy2BMe (It's not quite time to rest - John Kerry is still out there (and so is Hillary))
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To: SmithL

Have the French responded why they put false information on the birth certificate?


34 posted on 11/28/2004 6:56:16 AM PST by expatguy (Fallujah Delenda Est!!)
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To: vbmoneyspender; SmithL; SJackson; Salem; dennisw; Prime Choice; MeekOneGOP; TrueBeliever9; ...
And Hitler was born in Paris . .

Hitler Loved Paris

* * *

To All My Muslim Friends . .

* * *

* * *

Germans Have Always Loved Paris

* * *

Mein Kampf
circa 2004

35 posted on 11/28/2004 7:08:01 AM PST by Happy2BMe (It's not quite time to rest - John Kerry is still out there (and so is Hillary))
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To: SmithL

Born in Cairo, died of AIDS in Paris.


36 posted on 11/28/2004 7:32:59 AM PST by Cinnamon Girl (OMGIIHIHOIIC ping list)
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To: Popman
...The Muslims want control over Jerusalem...

...And I doubt they really could know why, other than to remind us of that fictional story about Muhammed riding to heaven, which, like the entire Qur'an, is a cheap imitation and perversion of the real words of God.

Lacking real imagination, but loaded with real ambition, this pretender (Muhammed) created a pig's ear out of a silk purse and his counterfeit followers still try to insert themselves into the Holy realm.

All their efforts, Satanic at best and thuggish at worst, steel the resolve of and strengthen the bond between the world's Christians and Jews.

37 posted on 11/28/2004 7:36:26 AM PST by weenie (Islam is as "dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog." -- Churchill)
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To: Happy2BMe
Coroner's Speech


May he rest in peace.


38 posted on 11/28/2004 10:38:38 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP! ©)
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To: Happy2BMe

I cannot believe France sometimes. Everybody knows Arafat was an Egyptian. More anti-Israel bias.


39 posted on 11/28/2004 11:02:34 AM PST by F15Eagle
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To: SmithL

France: Arafat was born in Jerusalem

I'll see that and raise 'em a
"France: The Last Remaining Superpower..."


40 posted on 11/28/2004 11:03:32 AM PST by VOA
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To: Happy2BMe

thanks for the beautiful graphics...now hi-jacked to the harddrive for further distribution...


41 posted on 11/28/2004 11:05:55 AM PST by VOA
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"Is Paris Learning?" ... from history?

Now there's a book you'll never see!


42 posted on 11/28/2004 11:06:59 AM PST by VOA
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To: MeekOneGOP
"May he rest in peace PIECES."
43 posted on 11/28/2004 11:48:37 AM PST by Happy2BMe (It's not quite time to rest - John Kerry is still out there (and so is Hillary))
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To: Brilliant
The French are doing everything they can to fan the flames of war in the Middle East.

Another war for the French to lose.

44 posted on 11/28/2004 11:50:38 AM PST by airborne (God bless and keep our fallen heroes.)
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To: SmithL

Born in Jerusalem, huh? What, was Yasser TRYING to be the AntiChrist?


45 posted on 11/28/2004 11:52:35 AM PST by ovrtaxt ("Health nuts are going to feel stupid someday, lying in hospitals dying of nothing". -- Redd Foxx)
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To: VOA

Hitler was especially proud of his conquest over the Normans.


46 posted on 11/28/2004 12:21:37 PM PST by Happy2BMe (It's not quite time to rest - John Kerry is still out there (and so is Hillary))
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To: SmithL

John Adams said during the French Revolution: "What am I to make of this Republic of 30 million atheists?"

Today it must be about 55 million atheists and 6 million Islamofacists. I can't imagine a worse situation for a country.


47 posted on 11/28/2004 12:25:36 PM PST by matchwood
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To: SmithL

You know, if France isn't careful, they could find themselves the object of derision at this forum and in this country.


48 posted on 11/28/2004 12:30:42 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: SmithL; TapTheSource; Brilliant; Young Werther; Threepwood; A Navy Vet; chinkshady; AirForceMom; ...
I'm Stunned - Chirac Promised Me A Ride Outta Here!

Viva La France - French Military History in a Nutshell (Including *WAR ON TERRORISM*)

(click link)

49 posted on 11/28/2004 12:36:26 PM PST by Happy2BMe (It's not quite time to rest - John Kerry is still out there (and so is Hillary))
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To: Happy2BMe

The French, the Islamofascists and Liberals wingnuts are incapable of telling the truth and not trying to rewrite history for their agendas.


50 posted on 11/28/2004 12:45:11 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Writers of hate GW/Christians/ Republicans = GIM members, GAY INFECTED MEDIA!)
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