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Guilt no longer needs proof - Bill O'Reilly Defends Rather
Boston Herald | 11/27/04 | Bill O'Reilly

Posted on 11/26/2004 11:12:52 PM PST by kattracks

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To: kattracks

His book sales got to be suffering since he smeared the Swiftboat vets, paid off a phone maiden and now calls Rather an honest reporter. The only legitimacy about Bill is his stand in support of the young Marine who has been vilified by the press over his killing of a terrorist.


61 posted on 11/27/2004 12:11:50 AM PST by taxesareforever
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To: kattracks

<< As a CBS News correspondent in the early '80s, I worked with Rather and have known him for more than 20 years. There is no way on this earth that he would have knowingly used fake documents on any story. >>

Accuser: I caught your friend has the blood of the man he just assaulted on his hands.

Idiot savant defender: As a Boy Scout Troop Leader in the early '80s, I worked with Akela Rather and have known him for more than 20 years. There is no way on this earth that he would have knowingly beat up the man you saw him assault.


<< All "famous" and "successful" Americans are now targets. Unscrupulous people know that any accusation can be dumped on the Internet and within hours [WE OF THE] "mainstream media" will pick it up. >>

Good try at an innocence-by-moral-equivilence diversion from the low-life sexually-harasser, Bill O'Reilly: potato-eating union-town moron and all around populist-totalitarian! [And living walking proof of my GrandMa's admonition that no matter how hard 'they' try 'they' still cannot make strawberry jam from pigshit]


62 posted on 11/27/2004 12:14:36 AM PST by Brian Allen (I am, thank God, a 2X-blessed hyphenated American: An AMERICAN-American - AND a Dollar-a-Day FReeper)
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To: Zeppelin
Image Hosted by ImageShack.us But Kerry had so much to offer. A real Hero
63 posted on 11/27/2004 12:14:42 AM PST by Cutterjohnmhb
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To: kattracks

Guilt can be settled out of court.

Of course, Mr. Innocent can remain on his throne and continue to pontificate as though his moral integrity was never compromised.


64 posted on 11/27/2004 12:14:56 AM PST by citizencon
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To: Search4Truth
Oh yea, he is nervous as all getout.

And Rather:<

Rather:  Mr. President, I wonder if you could share with us your thoughts, tell us what goes through you mind when you hear people, people who love this country and people who believe in you, say reluctantly that perhaps you should resign or be impeached? 

Nixon: “Well, I am glad we don't take the vote of this room, let me say.”


65 posted on 11/27/2004 12:15:04 AM PST by Syncro
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To: Syncro

"Oh and yea, it has been discussed here for some time now that he wants to get Rather's job.

How funny, wanting to get on a sled zooming down the mountain of irrelevance..."


This is where my speculation begins. Knowing that Mr Bill has an extremely overinflated ego, does he believe himself to be the future savior of the MSM and CBS? The man that will revive the MSM's Nightly News? That way, he can brag about his ratings on his CBS program as he does now on Fox's Factor.

I wouldn't doubt that thoughts such as these have crossed his mind a time or two.


66 posted on 11/27/2004 12:17:04 AM PST by borntobeagle
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To: kattracks

Well, there goes what remains of any respect I had for O'Reilly.


67 posted on 11/27/2004 12:18:44 AM PST by thoughtomator (The Era of Old Media is over! Long live the Pajamasphere!)
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To: Search4Truth; Syncro; kattracks

<< Something has knocked the Irisman's fight out of him. Now he has that dear-in-the-headlights look about him. It's like he has the proverbial gun-to-his-head all the time. Have you noticed? It's the look of fear. >>

Of course it is.

He has never believed his own blarney, never felt he 'deserved' his ill-gotten riches -- and has always suspected we didn't too.

And now his hypocricy has been so comprehensively revealed, he knows we don't believe him, too -- and he feels it slipping away.

In Rather O'Reilly sees the O'Reilly Ghost of Christmasses to Come.


68 posted on 11/27/2004 12:22:26 AM PST by Brian Allen (I am, thank God, a 2X-blessed hyphenated American: An AMERICAN-American - AND a Dollar-a-Day FReeper)
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To: kattracks

Dan Rather is a veteran "INVESTIGATIVE" News reporter, He knew beyond any reasonable doubt the docs were fake! End of story.


69 posted on 11/27/2004 12:22:59 AM PST by DirtyHarryY2K (Perversion is not a civil right.)
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To: kattracks

Did you know O'Reilly replaced Rush on KDKA (AM) Pittsburgh,PA. KDKA is owned by Infinity Radio/Viacom/CBS

from computer bob


70 posted on 11/27/2004 12:24:59 AM PST by computer bob
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To: Brian Allen

To the pajamahadeen, there are no sacred cows. Fear the pajamhadeen, all peverters of truth. :)


71 posted on 11/27/2004 12:27:43 AM PST by Search4Truth (When a man lies he murders some part of the world.)
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To: kattracks

Billy, if it wasn't your loofah, then you shouldn't have PAID. Then you could indeed have made your little point here, and it might have made some SENSE. Cause now all you are saying is that you famous sleazoids should all hang together when one of you gets caught with his falafel where it shouldn't be.


72 posted on 11/27/2004 12:28:27 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: Outraged
"While some of the Vietnam vets had valid points, more than a few of the accusations against Kerry were simply untrue."

Bill is even beginning to SOUND like Dan Rather!

Unproven Accusations? Where's the proof Bill? Who Lied? He is becoming as despicable as the people he defends!

73 posted on 11/27/2004 12:30:33 AM PST by Rabble (Dan Rather -- I would Rather he be tried for Treason!)
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To: borntobeagle
A funny comment I just found about both Rather and O'Reilly:

In response to these brouhahas and the National Guard story, conservative media critics have demanded blood. They charge that Rather's careless muckraking betrays a liberal bias, but it's actually much worse than that. Rather isn't a liberal hack. He's bonkers.  

What other reporter could get away with the spontaneous fits of rage and the homespun corniness that are his trademarks? Raised in Texas, Rather reads the news in a colloquial rat-a-tat: Paul Harvey as performed by Bill O'Reilly.

So maybe that is why Bill thinks he can put on Dan's shoes?

Peter J. Boyer's excellent book Who Killed CBS?

In 1981, Rather decided that he couldn't occupy Walter Cronkite's chair, so for his first Evening News broadcast he read the headlines while crouching behind the desk.

When a rival TV journalist ambushed him outside of CBS headquarters—a favorite tactic of the 60 Minutes gang—Rather instructed the reporter, "Get the microphone right up, will you?" Then he barked, "F**k you." The clip played on television for days.

Media Elites...Zheeze.

74 posted on 11/27/2004 12:34:31 AM PST by Syncro
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To: kattracks

umm...



WHAT????


75 posted on 11/27/2004 12:41:44 AM PST by chitownfreeper
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To: Mount Athos
I disagree with the sentiment in the article, but I don't think it's awful of O'Reilly to play devils advocate here to advance the discussion. Columnists should be bold enough in writing articles to say something so new and different from their peers that they might be occasionally quite wrong.

I don't think that was his intention, and here's why:

O'Reilly: "As a CBS News correspondent in the early '80s, I worked with Rather and have known him for more than 20 years. There is no way on this earth that he would have knowingly used fake documents on any story"

He doesn't leave much room for debate on his central point, does he?

This appears to be an assertion of "fact".

O'Reilly: Dan Rather is guilty of not being skeptical enough about a story that was politically loaded

If one accepts his other assertion this isn't very debatable either.

Notice that he concedes that Rather is "guilty"?

Even for a bloviator, note the awkward, unnatural sentence syntax required so as to frame the statement this way. It minimizes, limits and defines Rather's "guilt"

This appears to be another assertion of "fact". If it was debatable, what would the alternative reason for Rather's guilt?

What is left to debate?

76 posted on 11/27/2004 12:50:22 AM PST by Socrates1
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To: Syncro
Thank you for pointing me to the article, it was quite hilarious! I especially enjoyed reading about the "costumes".

Yes, I think Mr Bill will fill these shoes quite nicely. His viewer-ship will decline, and I think the timing of this will be perfect because he needs to be knocked down a peg or two.
77 posted on 11/27/2004 12:52:52 AM PST by borntobeagle
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To: kattracks
But holding a political point of view is the right of every American, and it does not entitle people to practice character assassination or deny the presumption of innocence.

Excuse me? I thought you were talking about Dan Rather, not you.

78 posted on 11/27/2004 12:53:12 AM PST by L.N. Smithee (Despite all your rage, you are still Democrats in a cage!)
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To: kattracks

This is a sad day for me. I used to be a fan of Bill, I'm sorry to say, but he has officially fallen from grace in my book. This sorry defense of Dan Blather is unconscionable.


79 posted on 11/27/2004 1:11:04 AM PST by srm913
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To: Wormwood
Fool that he is, he though Rush nwas another Larry King, ripe for dethroning.

Nonsense. Larry King was the king of talk radio in the early eighties almost by default. AM radio didn't have a national superstar in the light of day before Rush -- star talkhosts were all local and regional. Rush broke the mold, regardless of whether you believe his success is due to his talent or because he was the beneficiary of post-Carter Malaise America's Reaganite rightward shift. Rush is the Babe Ruth of radio -- as a personality, he is larger than talk radio itself. After the addiction revelations, he could have abdicated the throne, but he can never be 'dethroned.'

I still remember the first time I heard the name "Rush Limbaugh" -- ironically, it was when I was listening to the Larry King show. Someone called in and said that Rush was set up by CBS as he was guest-hosting The Pat Sajak Show, ambushed by gay activists screaming in the studio that disrupted the taping to the extent that the audience was cleared from the studio and Rush ended the program with a studio full of empty seats.

The caller to the show explained the situation to King, who said that he had never heard of Rush. The caller said that King would hear of him eventually, and that his popularity would someday eclipse that of King's.

Needless to say, the caller was right.

80 posted on 11/27/2004 1:17:49 AM PST by L.N. Smithee (Despite all your rage, you are still Democrats in a cage!)
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