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Leaving slums of Paris, two Muslim teens turn to waging jihad
AP Wire | November 27 2004 | Scheherezade Faramarzi/AP

Posted on 11/27/2004 11:41:08 AM PST by knighthawk

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To: EggsAckley

I agree. But this scum hurt our soldiers and some Iraq police ("wounding two American soldiers and two Iraqi police officers"). Their injuries are a high price to pay for the elimination of human scum. No sympathy because they couldn't find work.


21 posted on 11/27/2004 12:03:11 PM PST by kdot
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But Hicham noted many Muslims in France and other Western countries have trouble relating to secular culture and often find it hard to make a living.

Ya Think? But we are supposed to conform to and accomodate a 7th century barbian culture - or they cut off our heads - phuck 'em!!

22 posted on 11/27/2004 12:03:23 PM PST by michaelbfree
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To: turnrightnow
Does the French gov't give the six weeks holiday pay to the unemployed as well?

Hadnt thought of that. It would be interesting to find out were the funding came from

23 posted on 11/27/2004 12:04:30 PM PST by mylife
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To: knighthawk

ping


24 posted on 11/27/2004 12:05:11 PM PST by O.C. - Old Cracker (When the cracker gets old, you wind up with Old Cracker. - O.C.)
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To: knighthawk

Badjoudj and Hakim's excellent adventure.


25 posted on 11/27/2004 12:05:29 PM PST by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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To: knighthawk
counterterrorism officials worry that some of the young men of mostly Tunisian and Algerian descent will return home with combat skills to wage jihad in France.

Oh, the irony. Do the frogs want us to kill them or do they want us to capture them, hold them at Gitmo for a while and then return them to Paris?

26 posted on 11/27/2004 12:07:03 PM PST by SC Swamp Fox (Aim small, miss small.)
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To: knighthawk
those stupid, little punks took the easy way out. they gave in to hate, violence and bigotry. they believed the lies put out by the imams whose main goal is recruiting cannon fodder. the 'leaders' of the cult of islam does this to keep their own positions secure, to keep the uneducated and ignorant, uneducated and ignorant and thinking they really do need the 'imams' and the bin ladens to tell them what to do

ultimately, as the author notes, it comes down to having no home life; something leftists the world over would have everyone believe isn't necessary for civilization.

27 posted on 11/27/2004 12:08:05 PM PST by NoClones
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To: knighthawk
It's a real honor to go

Yup, and the first one to take down the Eiffel Tower will be a mega-hero.

28 posted on 11/27/2004 12:09:07 PM PST by Ciexyz (I use the term Blue Cities, not Blue States. PA is red except for Philly, Pgh & Erie.)
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To: SC Swamp Fox

They were French citizens and Jihadis: isn't that a two fer. . .


29 posted on 11/27/2004 12:12:39 PM PST by ALPAPilot
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To: knighthawk
He was such a good boy. ''He was smoking [marijuana] until six months ago," his sister, Khadija, told Le Parisien. Oh where did we go wrong?

''There's no work here. There's no caring father," said Hicham, 36. ''Life is tough.".....and then you die.

The two teenage friends hardly seemed like Islamic radicals. They smoked marijuana, drank beer, listened to rap music, and wore jeans. Sorry but they sound exactly like Islamic radicals. Mohammed Atta frequented strip bars and drank. They lie, they steal, they cheat. Why do these idiots in the press try to sell the idea that these are devout religious people? They aren't. They are filthy, murdering pigs.

''If he had work, this wouldn't have happened," said Badjoudj's uncle, Hicham. ''He saw no future for himself." Sorry, "Hicham", root cause analysis: Bad seed perpetrated evil, got killed, and is now hopefully burning in hell.

Geesh. Bring out the violin. I feel so bad for these French criminals. What a load of crap in this article.

30 posted on 11/27/2004 12:14:13 PM PST by johniegrad ('If only we smelled each other's a**, there wouldn't be any war.')
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To: knighthawk
They go because the french and the europeans in general, have painted the US as the enemy. They go because the europeans have sided with the Palestinians instead of taking a balanced approach.

They say the US is one sided, but if that were so, why are we the only ones proposing a state for them (once they stop blowing up Israelis).

Face it, this thing has been nurtured by the french and it's going to come back and bite them.

31 posted on 11/27/2004 12:14:32 PM PST by McGavin999 (George Soros just learned a very expensive lesson-America can't be bought.)
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To: knighthawk

the pair of French Muslims died insurgents in Iraq -- one a suicide car bomber, according to relatives who traced the young men's path from the slums of Paris through a religious school in Syria to the fight against the US-led coalition next door.

>snip<

The body of Hakim, 19, reportedly was found July 17 after US troops bombed a suspected insurgent hide-out in Fallujah, the city west of Baghdad that was overrun this month by American and Iraqi troops.

Imagine if these and the many other young men just like them through out the Middle East, Europe and the Polynesians islands, had instead gone to Iraq to join with the coalition to help remove Saddam's fascists empire.  
Imagine, then if they had then staid in Iraq and were at the fore front of the huge opportunity creating new legitimate businesses in an environment that is not only democratic, but very unrestricted for new businesses.  
  Imagine how instead of having blown him self up, and/or destorying lives, as an offering to the demon god allah, they would have been at the fore front, a founding father, of a new democracy.  
Imagine the beauty, and wealth that is possible in peaceful democratic Iraq. In the fertile Mesopotamian plain between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers, in what is now modern Iraq, with a new beautifully designed canal system with which to reclaim the desert and grow and abundance of delicious foods, an abundant and profitable oil surplus's. They could have been princes, and allah gave them what?  

32 posted on 11/27/2004 12:17:51 PM PST by antonia ("Democracy is the worst type of government, excepting all others." ~ Churchill)
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"The body of Hakim, 19, reportedly was found July 17 after US troops bombed a suspected insurgent hide-out in Fallujah, the city west of Baghdad that was overrun this month by American and Iraqi troops."
Any dead raghead = your basic good thing.

"Nearly a tenth of the 60 million people in France are Muslims, many of whom live in high-rise public housing slums that breed violence and crime."
Waaaaaay past time to call "L'Homme d'Orkin!" Tout de suite! Vite!!

33 posted on 11/27/2004 12:18:37 PM PST by MarineDad (Whenever mosques and JDAM's meet, civilization benefits.)
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To: antonia
 

slam is a retrovirus which infects a host culture.

 

34 posted on 11/27/2004 12:24:03 PM PST by pineconeland (Or dip a pinecone in melted suet, stuff with peanut butter, and hang from a tree.)
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To: johniegrad
Sorry but they sound exactly like Islamic radicals. Mohammed Atta frequented strip bars and drank. They lie, they steal, they cheat. Why do these idiots in the press try to sell the idea that these are devout religious people? They aren't. They are filthy, murdering pigs.

It is the essence of Islam

"Martyrdom" is the one act that a Muslim can perform that absolutely guarantees he will go to the Muslim paradise. It logically follows that, for someone about to commit "martyrdom", all things are permitted. He can drink, screw, smoke, eat pork -- ALL acts are permitted, because all will be forgiven once he commits "martyrdom". Conversely, for someone who has sinned against the laws of Islam (like a girl being with a guy), "martyrdom" is the only sure way of getting absolution.

Islam is the religion where murder/suicide is the highest sacrament


35 posted on 11/27/2004 12:32:38 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (We are going to fight until hell freezes over and then we are going to fight on the ice)
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To: knighthawk
"Hakim and Badjoudj lived in the same northern Paris neighborhood. Both were unemployed and came from broken families." Sounds like they are adopting the worst of Western Culture and none of the good.
36 posted on 11/27/2004 12:44:27 PM PST by dila813
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"The body of Hakim, 19, reportedly was found July 17 after US troops bombed a suspected insurgent hide-out in Fallujah, the city west of Baghdad that was overrun this month by American and Iraqi troops."

HOW DARE Bush slaughter that poor innocent little boy in his prime?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! This is an outrage!

"counterterrorism officials worry that some of the young men of mostly Tunisian and Algerian descent will return home with combat skills to wage jihad in France."

oh and let me guess...now you want the good ole USofA to protect your sorry arses? Ok sure thing, because you were so supportive of us going in there, you even volunteered to help! OH NO WAIT! NO YOU DIDN'T!

Maybe the boys will come home to you with their new-found skills. And you can all be America-haters together in your little corner of the world...or is that bringing the war too close to home for your pansy little French comfort? Don't worry my little poodles, the mean boys won't hurt you...you will make perfect little pets for them.

What a bunch of turkeys...
37 posted on 11/27/2004 12:52:37 PM PST by melbell (groovy)
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To: antonia
They could have been princes, and allah gave them what?

Satan is a seductress. The Anti-Christian Mohammed promised them 72 virgins.

38 posted on 11/27/2004 1:00:39 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: turnrightnow
The French are too tolerant, enlightened and sophisticated for such base emotions.

Absolutely.

It is a little know fact of Galactic history that Vulcans are descended from the French, when a piece of the Nexus brushed Earth in the late 19th Century, and sucked a French village to ancient, unpopulated, Vulcan.

That is why the Vulcans able to develop their unemotionally logical abilities later.

39 posted on 11/27/2004 1:03:10 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (The world needs more horses, and fewer Jackasses!)
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To: EggsAckley
This just in from Allah.......

If you muslims commit suicide WITHOUT killing anyone else
you go to heaven and get 100 virgins.

this change is effective immediately
40 posted on 11/27/2004 1:07:05 PM PST by oldbrowser (You lost the election.....................Get over it.)
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