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Muslim Academics Demand that "Terror Sheikhs" be Banned from Inciting Violence
Arab News (Saudi paper) ^ | 10-30-04 | Staff writer

Posted on 11/28/2004 10:14:04 PM PST by Snapple

Stop Terror Sheikhs, Muslim Academics Demand Staff Writer

JEDDAH/NEW YORK, 30 October 2004 — Over 2,500 Muslim intellectuals from 23 countries have signed a petition to the United Nations calling for an international treaty to ban the use of religion for incitement to violence.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Philosophy; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: intellectuals; islam; terrorism; violence
People are always saying that Muslims don't speak out. Here is a notable example that shows Muslims are speaking out.
1 posted on 11/28/2004 10:14:04 PM PST by Snapple
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To: Snapple

HEre is the text of the petetion.

http://www.arabnews.com/?page=4&section=0&article=53683&d=30&m=10&y=2004

Stop Terror Sheikhs, Muslim Academics Demand
Staff Writer

JEDDAH/NEW YORK, 30 October 2004 — Over 2,500 Muslim intellectuals from 23 countries have signed a petition to the United Nations calling for an international treaty to ban the use of religion for incitement to violence.

It also calls on the Security Council to set up a tribunal to try “the theologians of terror.” The petition is addressed to Secretary-General Kofi Annan, and to all members of the Security Council and its current chairman.

“There are individuals in the Muslim world who pose as clerics and issue death sentences against those they disagree with,” says Shakir Al-Nablusi, a Jordanian academic and one of the signatories. “These individuals give Islam a bad name and foster hatred among civilizations.”

Nablusi said hundreds of Arab writers and academics were collecting more signatures and hope to have “tens of thousands” by next month. Among those collecting signatures are Jawad Hashem, a former Iraqi minister of planning, and Alafif Al-Akdhar, a leading Tunisian writer and academic. Most of the signatories are from Saudi Arabia and other Gulf states plus Iraq, Jordan and Palestine.

The signatories describe those who use religion for inciting violence as “the sheikhs of death”. Among those mentioned by name is Yusuf Al-Qaradawi, an Egyptian preacher working in Qatar. The signatories accuse him of “providing a religious cover for terrorism.”

Last year Qaradawi raised a storm when he issued a fatwa allowing the killing of Israeli pregnant women and their unborn babies on the ground that the babies could grow up to join the Israeli Army. Last September, Qaradawi in a fatwa in response to a question from the Egyptian Union of Journalists said killing “all Americans, civilian or military” in Iraq was allowed.

“We cannot let such dangerous nonsense to pass as Islam,” Nablusi says.

The petition also names the late Egyptian preacher Muhammad Al-Ghazzali who, in 1992, issued a fatwa for the murder of Farag Foda, an anti-clerical writer in Cairo. Within weeks of the fatwa, zealots murdered Foda in his home.

Other “sheikhs of death” mentioned include the Yemeni Abdul-Majid Al-Zendani, and the Saudis Ali bin Khudhair Al-Khudhair and Safar Al-Hawali. The two Saudis have described the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks against the United States as “retaliations”, and thus justified under Islamic law.

Issuing murder fatwas has a long story.

In 1947 the late Ayatollah Khomeini issued a fatwa against Ahmad Kasravi, one of Iran’s most prominent lawyers. A few weeks later, six men stabbed Kasravi to death in a court of law. In 1951 a group of mullas issued a fatwa for the murder of Iran’s Prime Minister Haji-Ali Razmara. He was shot dead a few days later. In 1989 Khomeini issued a fatwa for the murder of the British novelist Salman Rushdie.

The signatories of the petition also want the UN to order its member states to stop broadcasting the “mad musings of the theologians of terror.”


2 posted on 11/28/2004 10:15:34 PM PST by Snapple
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To: Snapple

Muslims don't need a resolution from the United Nations to STFU.


3 posted on 11/28/2004 10:16:06 PM PST by John Valentine
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To: Snapple

These Muslim scholars are pointing out that these terrorists only "pose as clerics":

“There are individuals in the Muslim world who pose as clerics and issue death sentences against those they disagree with,” says Shakir Al-Nablusi, a Jordanian academic and one of the signatories. “These individuals give Islam a bad name and foster hatred among civilizations.”


4 posted on 11/28/2004 10:18:02 PM PST by Snapple
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To: Snapple
Over 2,500 Muslim intellectuals from 23 countries have signed a petition to the United Nations calling for an international treaty to ban the use of religion for incitement to violence.

I'm impressed.

Now taking bets on when these intellectuals are slain after a "religion of peace" imam declares a death sentence on them (in the Salman Rushdie fashion).

5 posted on 11/28/2004 10:18:19 PM PST by Prime Choice (I like Democrats, too. Let's exchange recipes.)
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To: John Valentine
I'm cautiously optimistic. Muslim condemnation of their extremists has been practically nonexistent. Perhaps they are getting the picture.
6 posted on 11/28/2004 10:20:51 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Time to let slip the dogs...)
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To: Snapple
This is good news and bad news.
The good news is stating the obvious and it finally happened.
The bad news is that's it's about 30 years too late. The only remedy now is to shoot the damned imams on sight!
7 posted on 11/28/2004 10:23:21 PM PST by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity.)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

I think they are criticized and this is why there is basically a civil war going on in Islam. I don't think it gets coverage unless you go to more specialized publications.

It is dangerous to criticize, which is why they need a bit of help from our military.


8 posted on 11/28/2004 10:23:29 PM PST by Snapple
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To: Snapple
A step in the right direction. I am one of those who is offended by muslim silence. the post reads...

The signatories of the petition also want the UN to order its member states to stop broadcasting the “mad musings of the theologians of terror.”

I agree. Al-Jazeera should be shut down immediately.

9 posted on 11/28/2004 10:24:08 PM PST by airborne (God bless and keep our fallen heroes.)
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To: Publius6961

The imams in America are taking classes from the FBI on how to be informants.

How would you like to be an imam and do this?


10 posted on 11/28/2004 10:25:20 PM PST by Snapple
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To: Snapple; Joe Hadenuf
People are always saying that Muslims don't speak out. Here is a notable example that shows Muslims are speaking out.

2500 out of hundred of millions worldwide?...and only once since 9/11...But not enough to exonerate the "ROP" IMO. Sounds a little too much like patronizing for self-protection. Too little; too late.

11 posted on 11/28/2004 10:27:18 PM PST by Indie (Ignorance of the truth is no excuse for stupidity.)
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To: Snapple

have they issued fatwas against OBL or Zarqawi? I think not.


12 posted on 11/28/2004 10:30:21 PM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: Prime Choice

Seems like a start.


13 posted on 11/28/2004 10:30:42 PM PST by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
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To: Indie

These are very famous intellectuals.

There are lots of ways to dissent. A woman who votes in Afghanistan is dissenting.

A writer who says that the Americans are doing some good things in Iraq is dissenting.

An Iraqi policeman who hunts down terrorists is dissenting.

Lots of Muslims are being killed by the terrorists because they are taking them on.

I think you need to look before you say they aren't speaking out. Also, when they get killed people don't say that a Muslim was killed for standing up to terrorism.


14 posted on 11/28/2004 10:32:33 PM PST by Snapple
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To: AmericanVictory
Seems like a start.

Islam precludes reform. The imams and adherents of that cult of death have a propensity to murder anyone who doesn't adhere to their specific brand of insanity.

15 posted on 11/28/2004 10:35:09 PM PST by Prime Choice (I like Democrats, too. Let's exchange recipes.)
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To: sheik yerbouty

Their point was that one shouldn't issue fatwas.

Do you expect your minister to get up in church and solicit murder?

What would you think if your minister stood up in church and told you to get your gun and go kill Osama?

This is the role of government, not a clergyman. We are hoping the Muslims will separate church and state, remember?


16 posted on 11/28/2004 10:35:53 PM PST by Snapple
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To: Snapple

I bet the number of imams who will issue fatwas against these 2,500 Muslim academcis will be too numerous to count.


17 posted on 11/28/2004 10:36:18 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Dan Rather's got to go!)
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To: sheik yerbouty
have they issued fatwas against OBL or Zarqawi? I think not.

Bingo. The death sentence on Rushdie stands, but no imam will take on bin Laden, Zarqawi or any other Islamofascist.

18 posted on 11/28/2004 10:36:21 PM PST by Prime Choice (I like Democrats, too. Let's exchange recipes.)
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To: Prime Choice

And the main problem is that the source of the terror, murder, oppression, misogyny and slavery is all planly right there in the "holy" Koran.

The terror-inciting Imams are only following the orders of the Koran.

Islam has been a nightmare since its origin. It still is today. It will be tomorrow. Reform is impossible.


19 posted on 11/28/2004 10:39:56 PM PST by broadsword (When Islam creeps into a human society, oppression, misogyny and terror come hard on its heels.)
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To: broadsword
And the main problem is that the source of the terror, murder, oppression, misogyny and slavery is all planly right there in the "holy" Koran.

Quite true...


20 posted on 11/28/2004 10:41:04 PM PST by Prime Choice (I like Democrats, too. Let's exchange recipes.)
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To: Snapple
We are hoping the Muslims will separate church and state, remember?

Impossible! Read the "holy" Koran and see why.
21 posted on 11/28/2004 10:41:28 PM PST by broadsword (When Islam creeps into a human society, oppression, misogyny and terror come hard on its heels.)
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To: Snapple

This is a tremendously courageous step for these men to make. They are making themselves and their families targets in order to be heard. I can't even measure the amount of respect I have for them.


22 posted on 11/28/2004 10:46:47 PM PST by McGavin999 (George Soros just learned a very expensive lesson-America can't be bought.)
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To: McGavin999; All

This is a tremendously courageous step for these men to make. They are making themselves and their families targets in order to be heard. I can't even measure the amount of respect I have for them.
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I don't believe a single word of their blathering crap! The Koran tells them (in fact it insists and blesses their deception) that it's supercalifragilistlically AOK to deceive the sub-human pigs and monkeys of the Infidel world, and that's precisely what they're doing right now! WAKE UP and smell the rotting roses !!!


23 posted on 11/28/2004 11:13:28 PM PST by GeekDejure ( LOL = Liberals Obey Lucifer !!!)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

Proof that not all Muslims are getting the picture:

From the Jakarta Post 11/26/04

Indonesians protest U.S.-led attack in Fallujah

JAKARTA (AP): About 10,000 Indonesians demonstrated in Jakarta on Sunday against the U.S.-led offensive in Fallujah, in one of the biggest anti-Iraq war protests in the world's most populous Muslim nation.

The demonstrators chanted, "Keep the spirit of jihad alive! We will fight back!" and carried banners reading, "How many more Muslims will die because of President George Bush?"

Young men pasted stickers of Bush portrayed as a monkey and as Adolf Hitler on passing cars and buses in front of the U.S. Embassy.

Opinion polls have shown that many Indonesians have turned against the United States because they see the U.S.-led wars in Afghanistan and Iraq as anti-Muslim.

Anti-U.S. sentiments flared up again when U.S. troops invaded the Iraqi rebel-held city of Fallujah, known as the "city of mosques," early this month in an offensive aimed at re-establishing government control ahead of January elections.

"My heart burns with anger to see what is happening in Fallujah," Rahmat Hidayat, a 29-year-old teacher, said at the rally. "America must pay!"

Police estimated that 10,000 people took part in the rally - one the largest in Indonesia against the Iraq war. About 8,000 to 10,000 people joined an anti-war protest last year, while other rallies have been smaller.

Sunday's protest was sponsored by the rapidly growing Islam-based Justice and Prosperity Party (PKS). (***)

qed: Proof that at least 10,000 Indonesian Muslims have no moral or ethical judgement whatsoever.


24 posted on 11/28/2004 11:22:54 PM PST by John Valentine
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To: Snapple
a drop (late one) in the bucket

and why the useless, thumb-twiddling UN

26 posted on 11/29/2004 1:37:21 AM PST by maine-iac7 ( Pray without doubt..."Ask and you SHALL receive")
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To: broadsword

It's a little pathetic that they have to go to the UN to get protection from their own religion.

The intellectuals are a bit more in tune with the 21st century, and have probably had more exposure to modern civilization. Yet even though Muslims, they cannot get control of their own imams or their own religion.

Nor can they go to their own governments, who are so enmeshed with the fundie imams that the intellectuals have chosen to do an end-run and go straight to the UN.

Next they'll be branded as infidels and apostates, with the inevitable fatwas issued against them.


27 posted on 11/29/2004 1:40:20 AM PST by angkor
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To: Snapple

Don't hold your breath..


28 posted on 11/29/2004 3:12:14 AM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: Snapple
Prophet of Doom : Islam's Terrorist Dogma in Muhammad's Own Words

CLICK ON ABOVE IMAGE


The CLASH OF CIVILIZATIONS AND THE REMAKING OF WORLD ORDER

CLICK ON ABOVE IMAGE




29 posted on 11/29/2004 6:07:51 AM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat)
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To: McGavin999

they are just choosing sides, they can see which side is going to win. They want to remain alive to subvert the west for an eventual takeover. They can see that the west wont roll over easily, they are hoping that their great grand children will be able to take over the world.


30 posted on 11/29/2004 7:24:21 AM PST by Luigi Vasellini
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