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Can't bury 'Treasure' [Hollywood Hope: National treasure, Incredibles still on top! ]
Ny Daily news ^ | 11/29/2004 | DAVID HINCKLEY

Posted on 11/29/2004 5:00:45 AM PST by SolutionsOnly

More moviegoers used the Thanksgiving weekend to catch up with the hits "National Treasure" and "The Incredibles" than to see the year's two biggest holiday-theme flicks or the new epic "Alexander." "National Treasure," in which Nicolas Cage follows a centuries-old legend to a mother lode of historical riches, finished in first place by earning an estimated $33.1 million from Friday to yesterday.

Pixar Animation's "The Incredibles," the bemused tale of superheroes put out to pasture in suburbia, took second with an estimated $24.1 million.

The weekend's two new movies, "Christmas With the Kranks" and Oliver Stone's "Alexander," both settled into the middle of the pack.

"Kranks," a much-hyped film starring Tim Allen and Jamie Lee Curtis as a couple that tries to skip Christmas, overcame terrible reviews to finish third with $22.7 million.

"Alexander," which stars Colin Farrell as Alexander the Great and cost $155 million to produce, earned a disappointing $13.5 million to finish sixth.

The other major holiday-theme film, "The Polar Express," which stars Tom Hanks in a heartwarming Christmas adventure done with high-tech animation, earned an estimated $20.1 million. That brings its total to $82.2 million, less than half of what it cost to produce.

Much happier were the producers of "SpongeBob SquarePants," the animated sponge who made his reputation on Nickelodeon and has earned $58.6 million at the movie box office. He finished fifth this week with $19.6 million.


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To: vabeachrepub
How is it well documented he was gay? I would really like to know because this is news to me. I am really not trying to be argumentative , I just am curious. I understand he had a close friend and confidant,but what made him gay? I understand the Greeks were pretty pissed he was portrayed that way.

Thanks for any info you could give me.

21 posted on 11/29/2004 5:43:25 AM PST by normy (Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.)
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To: normy

"I wonder why a man cannot have another man for a friend without him being gay?".

Because gays are fanatical about homosexuality. It's the lens they see through.

But for the rest of us there are still many examples
"The Lord of the Rings" Trilogy stands out in this respect.
"Last of the Mohicans", "Band of Brothers"...etc .


22 posted on 11/29/2004 5:49:47 AM PST by SolutionsOnly
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To: Red Badger
The people of Jesusland will. The exiles of Jesusland in Blue states will. The Jewish readers will. Most FReepers, I believe, will. Anyone left, won't.....

Man, I hope you are right.

A large percentage of Christians in this country are the Clinton type, go to Church on Sunday to either feel good or look good.

Few too many of them, don't crack their Bibles open unless the preacher says "follow me while I read this passage"

23 posted on 11/29/2004 5:52:09 AM PST by Popman
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To: Red Badger
Yes, and that chapter (plus chapter eleven) is a perfect illustration of the issue of presuppositions which I discuss in my Why I Am (Still) a Christian.

If we claim that a Biblical prophecy such as Isaiah 7:14 has been fulfilled in Jesus, those committed to disbelieving it find some alternative explanation, so that it cannot have been fulfilled.

If a prophecy such as Daniel 8 or 11 is so detailed that there is no other possible rational explanation, then it must have been written after the event.

The problem is not in the evidence. It is in the faulty philosophical pre-commitments, the premises, of the would-be critic.

Dan
Biblical Christianity web site
Biblical Christianity message board
Biblical Christianity BLOG

24 posted on 11/29/2004 5:55:38 AM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Popman
A large percentage of Christians in this country are the Clinton type, go to Church on Sunday to either feel good or look good.

I refer to those Christians as Punchcard Christians. They go only to get their ticket punched for that week. When help is needed for projects or witness or positions in the church, they are "too busy" or "can't seem to find the time"......

25 posted on 11/29/2004 5:59:19 AM PST by Red Badger (If the Red States are JESUSLAND, then the Blue States are SATANLAND......)
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To: Red Badger
Punchcard Christians. They go only to get their ticket punched for that week

Nice analogy. They probably have hanging chads too!!!

26 posted on 11/29/2004 6:05:50 AM PST by Popman
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To: SolutionsOnly

I found The Incredibles... OK, but not great. I kept thinking that it wanted to be a live action film with digital special effects rather than an all-digital toon.


27 posted on 11/29/2004 6:10:48 AM PST by Kerfuffle
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To: BibChr

The History Channel had a good special on Alexander the Great before the movie opened.

The also did a History vs. Hollywood on him, but I didn't catch that.


28 posted on 11/29/2004 6:13:12 AM PST by eyespysomething ("Life has a flavor the protected will never know...." Major Jason Muldoon)
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To: BibChr

Here's a little prophecy for you that usually gets overlooked:

1 Kings, chapter 13
"2": And he cried against the altar in the word of the LORD, and said, O altar, altar, thus saith the LORD; Behold, a child shall be born unto the house of David, Josiah by name; and upon thee shall he offer the priests of the high places that burn incense upon thee, and men's bones shall be burnt upon thee.

This was predicted a few hundred years before the birth of Josiah. Imagine, a prophecy that calls out by name the person who will fulfill it!


29 posted on 11/29/2004 6:14:31 AM PST by Red Badger (If the Red States are JESUSLAND, then the Blue States are SATANLAND......)
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To: normy
Isn't it strange that someone would make a 155 million dollar movie and use it to indoctrinate? Why? I thought they were in the business of making money. It really amazes me, are they really that out of touch?

And you wonder why people boycott these types of movies en masse in the red states. Movies that push a blatant liberal political agenda usually don't make money in first-run theatrical release.

It will be very interesting to see if Martin Scorcese's The Aviator will try to push a political agenda; so far, just about everyone who has seen the just-completed final cut of the movie loved the film from what I've read.

30 posted on 11/29/2004 6:17:16 AM PST by RayChuang88
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To: Popman
Hollywood should take notice, but it won't.

Sure they will. They'll come out with a lame "National Treasure II" and "National Treasure III", as well as a couple of poorly written knock-offs. And in the process they'll completely forget that it was the writing and acting that made the first movie so fun.

31 posted on 11/29/2004 6:18:19 AM PST by Drennan Whyte
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To: vabeachrepub

I saw Colin Farrell on one of the late night shows. He brought his promo clip from "Alexander", what looked like a pre-battle scene trying to evoke "St. Crispin's Day". Alexander was galloping back and forth before the troops, exhorting them to fight for...something.

To me, it was just a bald-faced copy of Mel Gibson's famous scene in Braveheart. That one clip led me to think Alexander would just be a big rip-off of other great movies. Now that I know about its agenda, I'm even less inclined to see it.


32 posted on 11/29/2004 6:20:09 AM PST by Timeout
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To: SolutionsOnly
Another Hollyweird flop.......Kinsey

Looks like a full-blown consumer revolt against the millionaire leftists in Blueland.

33 posted on 11/29/2004 6:22:55 AM PST by add925 (The Left = Xenophobes in Denial)
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To: Timeout

It was a direct ripoff from "Braveheart" - and it was a pale imitation.


34 posted on 11/29/2004 6:23:57 AM PST by vabeachrepub
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To: Red Badger

Actually, I didn't totally get it. Does that mean I hail from the land of Satan? I found what you implied pretty offensive. I am sorry that I am not as familiar with the Bible as you are, but that doesn't make me evil by default.


35 posted on 11/29/2004 6:24:09 AM PST by exnavychick
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To: Popman

Yep, National Treasure was a great time. Best "clean" flick I've seen in years.


36 posted on 11/29/2004 6:25:34 AM PST by Rebelbase (Who is General Chat and why does he/she have their own forum?)
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To: normy
Thats an awful lot of money to lose to advance an agenda.

Yeah, but it isn't their money - it belongs to the investors in the film studio. Same psychology that our Congressional Democratic Socialists have about social spending programs: "If it saves the life of one child, it's worth it." For these scriptwriters, I suppose their version is: "If it allows one 12-year-old boy to become comfortable with his sexual identity (and decide to meet me behind the poolhouse after the screening), it's worth it."

Strange people are in control of the entertainment industry.

37 posted on 11/29/2004 6:31:39 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves
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To: SolutionsOnly

Me and my wife manged to sneak out of the holiday festivities long enough to go to the theatre. We watched "The Grudge". I usually don't like horror movies, but this was the creepiest film I have seen in years. Plan to go see National Treasure this weekend.


38 posted on 11/29/2004 6:41:33 AM PST by apillar
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To: exnavychick

You are not evil, and I'm sorry if you thought I implied you were. You must be a citizen of Jesusland living in exile. It is a place in the heart not a physical locality. The MM's of this world are out to destroy all that pertains to God and Jesus, hence their derogatory reference to Jesusland, which now has become a Badge of Honor instead of a derisive comment by a misanthrope......Please, do not take anything I say offensively. I now have a new reason for my old name, Red Badger, which was from a long time ago before FR was in existence.......


39 posted on 11/29/2004 6:56:16 AM PST by Red Badger (If the Red States are JESUSLAND, then the Blue States are SATANLAND......)
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To: exnavychick
"21": And the rough goat is the king of Grecia: and the great horn that is between his eyes is the first king.

In case you missed it, the explanation is there. This is a biblical prophecy concerning Alexander. In fact, when Alexander came upon Jerusalem, the Jewish leaders of the day knew he was coming and told him about the prophecy.

Josephus wrote: “The high priest then showed Alexander the passages in the prophecy of Daniel indicating that a Greek would destroy the empire of the Persians. Alexander, of course, accepted the prophecy as a reference to himself, and declared that God had ordained him to conquer Persia, which he proceeded to do. Furthermore, Alexander not only refused to execute any sanctions against Israel but bestowed upon that nation all kinds of favors and benefits, which was contrary to his usual custom.”

One of the things I like about FR is that I routinely come across wonderful bits of knowledge. There is no reason to be offended by what you don't understand.

40 posted on 11/29/2004 6:59:22 AM PST by hopespringseternal
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