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Bill Clinton wasn't perfect, but he was exceptional
Tallahassee Democrat ^ | Nov 29, 2004 | Abe Schestopol

Posted on 11/29/2004 5:40:37 AM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection

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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
>>It was Bill Clinton's humanity that made him a great president.<<

I particularly enjoyed his laughing at Ron Brown's funeral and his cheating on the woman he married. However, it does say a lot about what Democrats think a human should be as well explains why they have difficulty in defining when a human begins.

Muleteam1

41 posted on 11/29/2004 6:14:18 AM PST by Muleteam1
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To: Samurai_Jack

hear, hear.


42 posted on 11/29/2004 6:14:31 AM PST by CriticalJ
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Goodwin thinks he is being cute, catering to us Tallahassee hayseeds by calling ex-President Clinton "Bubba."

Abe comes across as stupid in the extreme in this "piece".

LOL

43 posted on 11/29/2004 6:15:04 AM PST by cyncooper (And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
a southern governor who, while serving as president of the United States, gave us and Wall Street the best eight years in our nation's history

Well, I seem to remember a LOT of people not agreeing with this assessment of the Clinton years. His first two years in office were highlighted by the immolation of the Branch Davidians in Waco, and millions of gun-owning middle Americans becoming so distrustful of his government that they formed up into "militias", giving Clinton a domestic enemy to persecute while giving Islamic militants a welcoming hand.

The prosperous economy didn't have anything to do with Clinton, but then savvy politicos know that the president usually has very little impact on the economy.

Clinton owed the economic success of his tenure to the Republican 104th congress.

And let's not forget, the great sense of prosperity in the market was based on phony numbers by dishonest executives, and this didn't get caught until Bush took office and went after Enron, leaving us all wondering - were we really as well off as we thought?

So... The question I have to pose to the author of this piece is, aside from being lucky enough to have been president during a boom in the business cycle, can he name even one single Clinton accomplishment?

And easy seduction of female underlings doesn't count, nor does being impeached.

44 posted on 11/29/2004 6:21:43 AM PST by Kenton ("Life is tough, and it's really tough when you're stupid" - Damon Runyon)
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To: facedown

...or a certain man from Abilene.

Bill Burkett

...and the names of their co-dalliants are well known.

Robin Rather & Mary Mapes

(BTW, is Abe's last name pronounced "cess-pool"?)


45 posted on 11/29/2004 6:32:53 AM PST by WestTexasWend
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To: Stand Watch Listen
Like I said in #11...he was exceptional liar. Unfortunately, too often, that is synonymous with an exceptional politician.

We need statesmen.

46 posted on 11/29/2004 6:34:25 AM PST by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: jocon307
Yes Mr. president, I Do Want to Go There...
When your legacy is 100% sleaze, there is much to "discuss"...
47 posted on 11/29/2004 6:56:54 AM PST by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity.)
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To: Dalite

The history has been written. The best thing that can be said of Clinton is that he is a self-proclaimed cocksman. He had the opportuniy to grasp at greatness and took the lowest possible road. Ask yourself, "What do I think, what comes to mind when Clinton's name comes up?" Answer..Monica. Stained dresses. Felatio while conversing with a sitting congressman. Like it or not he is a caricature of perversion. I also think of how pathetic it is that he could not set aside his libido for the time of his presidency,give up one centilla of concern for his daughter and wife. Does anyone really think he cared for this country more than his next conquest. No. Clinton, despite all of his protestations and that of his sycophants, his is sliding inexorably to become the butt of a joke. Unfortunately, it is at the expense of America.Yes he is a congenital liar. Yes he is the definition of a sociopath. But mostly, don't you really equate Clinton with a sexual predator who preys on young people, college students, the age of his daughter, and picture in your minds eye Clinton desecrating the oval office and the very voters who put him there? He is, and will always be a disgrace to the office of Presidency.


48 posted on 11/29/2004 7:07:13 AM PST by Texas Songwriter (Texas Songwriter)
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To: Samurai_Jack

"This positive reporting served to promote the internet speculative market 'bubble', and it served to disguise the danger lurking as americans endured multiple unanswered attacks on US Soil and against interests abroad. Not to mention that the clintonistas deployed troops into more countries than any president in previous history".


It were indeed a "FOOLS' PARADISE"


49 posted on 11/29/2004 7:16:35 AM PST by sodpoodle (sparrows are underrated)
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To: eeriegeno

And these are only the ones we know of, but you forgot Barbra Streisand.


50 posted on 11/29/2004 7:22:36 AM PST by Niks
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To: Mudboy Slim; FBD; scholar
"It was Bill Clinton's humanity that made him a great president."

Wouldn't have wanted y'all to miss this one.
Nope, sure wouldn't. :o)

"Did that human being have flaws? Of course he did. Trying to humiliate him by calling him, 'Bubba' only shows the writer's ignorance."

Or the writer trying to divert attention away from the scum's real crimes & high treason.
~eh?

"In true Bubba country, 'Bubba'is a term of endearment."

HA!!
Yea, and so does evoking the moniker El Camino or "Butch".

"It implies a bond between the Bubba and the people."

Yea-yea.
It's a [sticky] bond, too.

...*loaded* with DNA.

51 posted on 11/29/2004 7:24:48 AM PST by Landru (Indulgences: 2 for a buck.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Bill Clinton wasn't perfect, but he was exceptional

So were Willie Sutton and Adolph Eichman! Neither of whom are examples of lifestyles to be admired.
52 posted on 11/29/2004 7:31:48 AM PST by leprechaun9
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To: sodpoodle

It were indeed a "FOOLS' PARADISE"


Yes...
I might also add that this most recent election was a splendid example of the 'fools paradise'. The democrats were depending on the 'exit polls' and the 'media mania'. We recall now that the media pundits actually admitted their bias saying it would be worth '15%' at the polls.

Indeed it was worth 15% to the media industry polls. But the Electoral College poll that really mattered ran counter to the polls the MSM was looking at. That's why they feel 'cheated'. And indeed, they WERE 'cheated' BY THEIR OWN people. The democrats alliance with the Main Stream Media cheats the american public 24hrs a day. So when the media choice candidate kerry started dropping behind, they were absolutely SHOCKED.

I guess I would be shocked too if my only news input were from Dan Rather and the ever affable Cutie Katie Couric.


53 posted on 11/29/2004 7:36:53 AM PST by Samurai_Jack
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To: Landru

..."It was Bill Clinton's humanity that made him a great president."...

oh... and all along I thought it was his *humility*...

howdy Lan, and thanks for the chuckle!


54 posted on 11/29/2004 7:43:28 AM PST by FBD (U.S. Marines: travel agents to the 72 virgins)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Imagine, a southern governor who, while serving as president of the United States, gave us and Wall Street the best eight years in our nation's history, and did it without resorting to a made-in-the-White House war.

Does Kosovo ring any bells? Sudan on impeachment eve?

Fool.

55 posted on 11/29/2004 7:45:22 AM PST by Dr.Deth
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Imagine, a southern governor who, while serving as president of the United States, gave us and Wall Street the best eight years in our nation's history, and did it without resorting to a made-in-the-White House war.

Reagan's 8 years were quite a bit better.

I guess Somalia, Kosovo, Bosnia and Iraq don't count. Apologies to the families of those who served and gave their lives.

56 posted on 11/29/2004 7:49:45 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th% (Bush wins!!!)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Clinton was not a "bubba", at least as the term is understood in the South.
A better description of Bill and Hillary Clinton was penned by Margaret Mitchell, who has Mammy label Rhett and Scarlet as "two mules in a horse harness."
57 posted on 11/29/2004 7:49:52 AM PST by quadrant
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To: CriticalJ
but he was slick.

He was also very very lucky. Freepers know all the reasons he was lucky so I wont list them. Ross Perot was his big eared lepruchan with a pot of gold and a rainbow.

His nickname should be lucky slick willie

58 posted on 11/29/2004 8:30:52 AM PST by winodog (We need to water the liberty tree)
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To: CriticalJ

Yes, yes, indeed! He was a wonderful politician! He ( and his wife ) made careers out of finding out what people wanted to hear, and saying it. That's what passes for "brilliance" in today's world. And, I'll bet the author is one of those who actually weeps tears when he hears the "pain feeling" utterances of the world"s greatest hucksters!


59 posted on 11/29/2004 8:43:01 AM PST by Grateful One
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To: Landru; FBD; Mudboy Slim
Wouldn't have wanted y'all to miss this one.

Geez pal--you knew I was sick and you sent me this?? My recovery will be set back at least another day!

60 posted on 12/01/2004 8:29:21 AM PST by scholar
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