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2004 electoral map cartogram
http://www.geog.ucsb.edu/~sara/html/mapping/election/election04/election.html ^

Posted on 11/29/2004 12:53:11 PM PST by fishtank

The two-variable contiguous area cartogram below depicts enumeration units proportionally scaled to the data that they represent, namely electoral votes. The more electoral votes in a state, the larger the area of the state. The states are shaded with the color of the candidate winning the electoral votes.



TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bush; bushcountry; bushvictory; electoral; gore; kerry; map; republican
Shows us we cannot afford to rest on our laurels.

How can we put together another Reagan-style majority?

1 posted on 11/29/2004 12:53:15 PM PST by fishtank
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To: fishtank

Iowa and New Mexico still haven't voted?


2 posted on 11/29/2004 12:54:20 PM PST by Rammer
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To: Rammer

LOL. It should be colored in Red.


3 posted on 11/29/2004 12:55:30 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Rammer

They had not at the time this map was created, I guess.


4 posted on 11/29/2004 12:56:07 PM PST by fishtank
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To: fishtank

Alaska looks like a bug that hit the windshield.


5 posted on 11/29/2004 12:57:06 PM PST by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: fishtank

Leave it to liberals to create an electoral map that looks like an abortion.


6 posted on 11/29/2004 12:58:10 PM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: fishtank

What did you do to Alaska? Are we just a piece of fireweed dander blowing in the wind now?


7 posted on 11/29/2004 12:58:31 PM PST by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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To: fishtank

Wisconsin and PA will turn Red in coming elections, as will Michigan, and believe it or not, even Minnesota will be red too... When exactly? Can't say, but provided the Dems continue their path to turn the US into a "secular socailist democracy" and the Republicans continue to put up solid candidates.. the midwest will become as RED and reliably so as the south, with perhaps the exception of IL, due to the liberal bastion of Chicago.

The Midwest, and MidAtlantic states are going through the shift that the south went through already..... The population of the remaining blue states will continue to decline as they did in the last census, while the growing economies of the south and other red state areas will continue to increase the red states electoral influence.

The Democrats must reject the radical socialist secular democracy and other fringe groups they now embrace wholey if they desire to ever truly be anything but an obstructionist party again.


8 posted on 11/29/2004 1:01:38 PM PST by HamiltonJay ("You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.")
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To: fishtank

Simply shows which states have large cities full of government workers and their dependent minions.


9 posted on 11/29/2004 1:02:50 PM PST by BenLurkin (Big government is still a big problem.)
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To: fishtank
Data manipulation to make the LOSERS feel better. It is done all the time in Powerpoint presentations to lamely try to make questionable sales.
10 posted on 11/29/2004 1:03:00 PM PST by Gorzaloon (This tagline intentionally left blank.)
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To: fishtank

This is probably the most worthless chart I have ever seen in my life. If they want to show an electoral vote comparison, a simple bar or pie chart will do. All this does is distort the reality that lib voters are mostly concentrated in small geographic urban areas.


11 posted on 11/29/2004 1:03:28 PM PST by Huck (The day will come when liberals will complain that chess is too violent .)
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To: RightWhale

I didn't make this map. I just found it.


12 posted on 11/29/2004 1:04:11 PM PST by fishtank
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To: HamiltonJay

Yours is the best analysis yet.


13 posted on 11/29/2004 1:05:00 PM PST by fishtank
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To: fishtank

It makes theblue states look fat and lazy.


14 posted on 11/29/2004 1:05:26 PM PST by discostu (mime is money)
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To: fishtank

What an ugly map.


15 posted on 11/29/2004 1:05:57 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (This space is available to advertise your service or product.)
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To: fishtank

Note they didn't do it by county, but by state. by county they look lame even with population size adjustments to county land area.


16 posted on 11/29/2004 1:06:18 PM PST by Rippin
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To: fishtank

Maybe so, but the real Alaska does look like your map. The big chunk of land we usually think of as Alaska is imaginary.


17 posted on 11/29/2004 1:07:52 PM PST by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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To: headsonpikes
Alaska looks like a bug that hit the windshield.

Naw, that is just one of our mosquitoes, actual size.

18 posted on 11/29/2004 1:08:56 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Rammer
there


19 posted on 11/29/2004 1:10:22 PM PST by puppetz
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To: Rammer

Looks like Pangea


20 posted on 11/29/2004 1:14:17 PM PST by frithguild (Withdraw from the 1967 Treaty on the Exploration an Use of Outer Space - Establish Private Property)
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To: fishtank

This fits the blue-state drug induced stupor. Only one of them could read it.


21 posted on 11/29/2004 1:31:14 PM PST by MysticCrusader
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To: fishtank
Reagan never had a majority. He always dealt with a Democratic dominated House and the Senate was held until 86. Reagan never had coattails. Bush did. For getting things done Bush is in a far moreadvantageous position than Reagan. He had to deal with talented Democratic politicians who were partisan but not nuts. O'Neill was a far more difficult opponent than Pelosi in her dreams.

If you are saying that the Reps cannnot rest. Absolutely. It is incumbent on Bush to accomplish much these two years to convince many Blue Staters to look to the Republican Party for successful and moral solutions.

22 posted on 11/29/2004 1:36:41 PM PST by xkaydet65
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To: fishtank

This is what liberals see when they look at a map. Must make driving hell.


23 posted on 11/29/2004 1:39:04 PM PST by MisterRepublican ("I must go. I must be elusive.")
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To: BenLurkin

take a look at this site:

http://www.citistates.com/whatis.html

"according to figures compiled by Standard & Poor’s DRI division for the US Conference of Mayors and National Association of Counties, the US’s 314 metro regions are clearly the economic drivers, providing 84 percent of new jobs, 95 percent of high-tech jobs, 88 percent of the country's income."

Seems like there will be a big problem one day if the centers of economic growth always vote different than the rest of of the nation.


24 posted on 11/29/2004 1:41:04 PM PST by NxNW
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To: NxNW

That problem exists now.

The answer is to free our urban centers from the death grip of government and government dependence once and for all.


25 posted on 11/29/2004 1:42:55 PM PST by BenLurkin (Big government is still a big problem.)
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To: discostu

The fatty belt of obesity runs from W. Virginia through KY, TN, AL, MS, LA and ends in TX (Houston is "Fat City"). By comparison the Blue States are lean and mean (MN is ranked healthiest in the US).

http://www.statehealthfacts.org/cgi-bin/healthfacts.cgi?action=compare&category=Health+Status&subcategory=Obesity&topic=Obesity+Rate


26 posted on 11/29/2004 1:47:31 PM PST by NxNW
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To: BenLurkin

Well, the cities are more regulated than the rural areas but they still produce the lions share of the income and growth. Maybe smart regulation is the answer to the economic woes of certain areas?


27 posted on 11/29/2004 1:49:29 PM PST by NxNW
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To: xkaydet65

"If you are saying that the Reps cannnot rest. Absolutely. It is incumbent on Bush to accomplish much these two years to convince many Blue Staters to look to the Republican Party for successful and moral solutions."

Yes and amen!


28 posted on 11/29/2004 1:50:54 PM PST by fishtank
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To: headsonpikes
Alaska looks like a bug that hit the windshield.

An excellent analogy for what just happened to Dan Rather....

29 posted on 11/29/2004 1:52:47 PM PST by Cyber Liberty ( 2004, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: NxNW

While the cities vote democratic, it's the republican voters that live in the suburbs and surrounding counties that drive that economic engine in most cases.


30 posted on 11/29/2004 1:59:57 PM PST by Round 9
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To: fishtank
"How can we put together another Reagan-style majority?"

Change the mind of 1 out of every 20 voters in California - or get California to distribute their electoral votes proportionally.

31 posted on 11/29/2004 2:02:36 PM PST by capitan_refugio
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To: finnman69
Thats one way to look at it but let me state what I think.

This is the slickest piece of skull drudgery I have ever seen.

Think about it, the county map makes the demos almost gone.

By taking states and spreading the population of BIG CITIES, through out the BLUE STATES they can say "look we really didn't do so badly". "Those red areas aren't nearly as large as the conservative would like
for you to believe"

Just look at the map again, This was a slick idea.

What we need to do, since it is almost impossible to convert those in the cities who are either on the dole or elitist liberals, is register more . There still is over 40% of eligible voters not registered. About the same registered voters who didn't vote,

I saw this map several days ago and was astonished at how innovated the demos can be.
Frannie
32 posted on 11/29/2004 2:02:46 PM PST by frannie (I REPEAT --THE TRUTH WILL SET US ALL FREE--)
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To: FJB2

Not always.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002103445_presvote29m.html

Plus, the cities are the economic hubs, the suburbs are bedroom communities that depends on access to the cities. The urban areas are the sine qua non of the "ring cities."


33 posted on 11/29/2004 2:06:23 PM PST by NxNW
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To: frannie

take a look at this site:

http://www.citistates.com/whatis.html

"according to figures compiled by Standard & Poor’s DRI division for the US Conference of Mayors and National Association of Counties, the US’s 314 metro regions are clearly the economic drivers, providing 84 percent of new jobs, 95 percent of high-tech jobs, 88 percent of the country's income."

The problem is that while the rural/small town counties encompass most of the country the cities/urban counties are where the economic growth is centered. If we take away the ciries the country is still there but the nation as we know it no longer exists. This is a big problem, how can we have a forward thinking, growing economy if there is a urban/rural split that is beyond redemption?


34 posted on 11/29/2004 2:18:26 PM PST by NxNW
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To: NxNW
Regulation is the key to economic growth?

Now I know you're pulling my leg!

35 posted on 11/29/2004 2:33:35 PM PST by BenLurkin (Big government is still a big problem.)
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To: fishtank

The major networks have still not called the election for George W. Bush. Maybe Dan Rather will give the order for CBS to call the election for George W. Bush!


36 posted on 11/29/2004 2:38:17 PM PST by Revererdrv
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To: frannie

I disagree that the map is skull duggery, since the map is REAL and TRUE. It shows us the work still to do...

But I agree here with you:

"What we need to do, since it is almost impossible to convert those in the cities who are either on the dole or elitist liberals, is register more . There still is over 40% of eligible voters not registered. About the same registered voters who didn't vote,"

Good analysis.


37 posted on 11/29/2004 2:51:26 PM PST by fishtank
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To: NxNW
The problem is that while the rural/small town counties encompass most of the country the cities/urban counties are where the economic growth is centered. If we take away the ciries the country is still there but the nation as we know it no longer exists. This is a big problem, how can we have a forward thinking, growing economy if there is a urban/rural split that is beyond redemption?

Counties don't vote. A more interesting question is why social welfare recipients, white union members & individuals in non white communities vote disproportionately democratic.

38 posted on 11/29/2004 2:54:38 PM PST by skeeter
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To: BenLurkin

Substitute "smart investment" with "regulation" to be more precise, my orig comment was somewhat tongue in cheek. For instance my hometown is building a new monorail, most likely a good idea to move people allowing more space for commerce on the highways. But the project is beyond the scope of private industry so this is an instance in which government is focused for the public good. The hitch is that not every area has the resources to improve infrastructure on its own so in the future we might really be looking at a major have/have not situation in regard to urban and rural area.


39 posted on 11/29/2004 3:11:08 PM PST by NxNW
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To: skeeter

"A more interesting question is why social welfare recipients, white union members & individuals in non white communities vote disproportionately democratic."

That is an interesting question, do you have an answer?

BTW, in my states votes are tabulated by county that is the root of my ref to counties voting.


40 posted on 11/29/2004 3:26:32 PM PST by NxNW
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To: NxNW
That is an interesting question, do you have an answer?

Nope. I just thought I'd throw out a random, unanalyzed observation of my own.

41 posted on 11/29/2004 3:43:22 PM PST by skeeter
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To: skeeter

allrighty then. How is that working for you?


42 posted on 11/29/2004 3:52:27 PM PST by NxNW
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To: NxNW

'bout like I expected.


43 posted on 11/29/2004 4:04:03 PM PST by skeeter
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To: skeeter

Then by all means carry on.


44 posted on 11/29/2004 4:20:38 PM PST by NxNW
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To: NxNW

You're correct, not always but I'd bet in the majority of cases. Look at Atlanta, St.louis, New Orleans, L.A. and Austin. They are all surrounded by red counties. Those that live in the inner city vote Democrat, those that make it the economic engines of the state live elsewhere and vote more Republican.


45 posted on 11/29/2004 7:45:50 PM PST by Round 9
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To: headsonpikes

and Hawaii looks like a bird dropping splat.


46 posted on 11/29/2004 7:49:20 PM PST by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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To: Gorzaloon
Data manipulation to make the LOSERS feel better...

Ding...ding....ding. We have a winner.

47 posted on 11/29/2004 7:51:06 PM PST by Lurking in Kansas (;&Uj/  ....If you have to ask, you wouldn't understand)
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